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Browns interview Brian Daboll for HC; have interest in pairing with Bills Asst. GM Joe Schoen

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1 hour ago, MJS said:

He's in his mid 40's. Chances are many of his kids are teenagers or older. Teenagers don't want to hang out with their parents anyway.

 

He's 44.

 

At the risk of sounding like a crazed stalker, based on a Christmas card, he's got an age range of kids.  I think his eldest son is a student (Sophomore?  Junior?)  at Alabama (he's got a Twitter and is obviously Daboll's son, he refers to "5 rings for Dad") and his youngest is a toddler.

 

While you're right overall that teens would rather hang with their friends, my experience as a parent is that the young teens were the most challenging AND the most time consuming years to parent. 

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10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He's 44.

 

At the risk of sounding like a crazed stalker, based on a Christmas card, he's got an age range of kids.  I think his eldest son is a student (Sophomore?  Junior?)  at Alabama (he's got a Twitter and is obviously Daboll's son, he refers to "5 rings for Dad") and his youngest is a toddler.

 

While you're right overall that teens would rather hang with their friends, my experience as a parent is that the young teens were the most challenging AND the most time consuming years to parent. 

He got remarried and has little ones. The teens are from previous marriage. New wife also a buffalonian btw

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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He got remarried and has little ones. The teens are from previous marriage. New wife also a buffalonian btw

 

Sounds like a story there.  Maybe the same 'ol same 'ol one.

 

But he clearly spends some time with the kids

 

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7 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I think it's both but primarily the former.  13 carries for out best guy who was getting 5 yards per on Saturday was not an execution thing.  We saw this in other games too like the Eagles for example.    Josh Allen already has 2 full season but still had trouble running it.  The other guys had full mini camps, training camps, and 16 games. 

 

Rex Roman's offense was waaaaaaaay ahead in only 1 season much less the second one where we averages 24.7 per game.

 

Even with better talent I'm not so sure he can get much better results.

 

I think we can/should do better than Daboll.

 

If we had that offense this season we would be SB contenders

 

Tyrod-shady-Watkins-Woods-Goodwin 

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8 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I think it's both but primarily the former.  13 carries for out best guy who was getting 5 yards per on Saturday was not an execution thing.  We saw this in other games too like the Eagles for example.    Josh Allen already has 2 full season but still had trouble running it.  The other guys had full mini camps, training camps, and 16 games. 

 

Rex Roman's offense was waaaaaaaay ahead in only 1 season much less the second one where we averages 24.7 per game.

 

Even with better talent I'm not so sure he can get much better results.

 

I think we can/should do better than Daboll.

:thumbsup:

 

Its clear that Daboll has been outclassed all season and it will be even more evident next year with better offensive talent. This season barley beating the bad teams and getting punked by teams we should have beaten, Browns, Patriots at least once and even the Ravens. Daboll was out coached by now unemployed Freddie Kitchens. 

 

Watching NFL network show how the Vikings OC kevin Stefanski drew up a game plan that the 13-3 Saints at New Orleans who just weren't ready for them and it all works off that play action power zone run scheme that is basically unstoppable with Dalvin Cook at RB. 

 

https://whodatdish.com/2020/01/03/new-orleans-saints-breaking-down-vikings/

 

Bills OC Brian Daboll is calling plays like he has an elite six year seasoned veteran QB and he doesn't! Perhaps in another fours years those plays might work if everyone on offense executes them perfectly. Still, calling for that many passes when the team already had a 16 point lead was mind boggling. Daboll doesn't have a young Peyton Manning behind center as he has a raw kid from Wyoming.

 

Had Daboll worked the run game like he did against the Cowboys, Steelers against the Texans in the second half the Bills would in all probability playing in Kansas this weekend.  

 

 

Did I happen to mention that my favorite game to watch this last weekend was the Titans pounding the ball against the Patriots in New England. That Patriots loss took some of the pain away from the Bills loss. Knowing that the Bills record of four straight super bowls will stand. 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

A person I work with has friend thats 3rd cousin removed (not sure removed for what) knows someone over seas that cousin twice removed (the deuce) knows a fortune teller in Zamboni and she said her Quiji Board, Taro Cards and magic 8 ball (she won a billiards tourney) have all aligned with the North Star indicating the Browns are dumb enough to hire Daboll.

...There ya have it, sounds over and we need a new OC

Sounds Legit!

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I for one hope they keep the current band together.  Dabol is fine.

 

Please please get another DK Metcalf from the Metcalf football tree, and also go into each game with 3 good RBs dressed, that you can use at any time, for any purpose.  Gore as the off tackle, 1 yard, cloud of turf nuggets guy is not a good NFL tactic.  They all need to catch passes, potentially run all 3 downs, and stick their nose in there for pass blocking.

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8 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

If we had that offense this season we would be SB contenders

 

Tyrod-shady-Watkins-Woods-Goodwin 

If only Harvin and Watkins stayed healthy too

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15 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

He doesnt need a safe space....you need to get with the now

So Beast is a millionare?  Thats GREAT happy for him

 

I don't know what the Bills paid him, but Daboll earned a reported $1.2M/yr as OC at 'Bama

I wouldn't expect him to have taken a pay cut to move to the BIlls

 

 

15 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Well, when you have million$, your wife can afford to be a stay at home mom.

 

There's that. So maybe NOT out of touch.

 

 

She can, and maybe she wants to, but kids still need time and attention from their Dads. 

IMHO, but without wishing to open a can of worms bunch of sociology research and the old Harry Chapin song support that.

 

14 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Current social arrangements and mores are always enlightened and retro views are ethically tainted, because schools, Hollywood, twitter, etc.

The groupthink of reputed iconoclasts seems ironic and funny to me, but it will be explained that dissent is only moral when it implicitly agrees with the consensus

of the correct folks and institutions.

 

I have no idea what this means, but it sounds *perfect* for PPP.

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On 1/8/2020 at 10:14 PM, SDS said:

I know it’s a fan’s prerogative to assume everyone else is a moron and they alone possess the intellectual horsepower to observe the obvious...

 

but Daboll is a University of Rochester grad. He’s not a window licking dummy. I can assure you he’s well aware of the various simple observations/complaints so many have expressed here. Whatever he has done, he did for a rationale reason (whether it worked or not) - not because he is intellectually incapable of seeing Singletary good - Gore bad. 

 

There's no question in my mind that Daboll is a very very very smart man who works extremely hard.

 

Which begs the question why he would repeatedly call plays that repeatedly don't have the needed result.

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14 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Current social arrangements and mores are always enlightened and retro views are ethically tainted, because schools, Hollywood, twitter, etc.

The groupthink of reputed iconoclasts seems ironic and funny to me, but it will be explained that dissent is only moral when it implicitly agrees with the consensus

of the correct folks and institutions.

 


My cats breath smells like cat food.

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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

There's no question in my mind that Daboll is a very very very smart man who works extremely hard.

 

Which begs the question why he would repeatedly call plays that repeatedly don't have the needed result.

Other teams have professionals on the other side of the ball.

 

Daboll is a fine OC. If/When JA throws for for 30TDs next year everyone is going to call him a genius 

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Should wrap up today with the last interview, a hire,  and Daboll going nowhere 

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Other teams have professionals on the other side of the ball.

 

Weak sauce, Hindsight.  Yes, other teams have professionals on the other side of the ball.  It's the job of the OC to set his players up for success in beating them.

 

As @SDS points out, Daboll is a very smart and very hardworking professional.  Therefore it remains a puzzlement why he feels lining up DiMarco and Smith out wide, or repeatedly trying to run Gore, is the best way to position our players for success in beating them.

 

43 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Daboll is a fine OC. If/When JA throws for for 30TDs next year everyone is going to call him a genius 

 

Quite possibly so, but Daboll's "fine" OC qualities have to date failed to reveal themselves in a number of opportunities. 

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41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Weak sauce, Hindsight.  Yes, other teams have professionals on the other side of the ball.  It's the job of the OC to set his players up for success in beating them.

 

As @SDS points out, Daboll is a very smart and very hardworking professional.  Therefore it remains a puzzlement why he feels lining up DiMarco and Smith out wide, or repeatedly trying to run Gore, is the best way to position our players for success in beating them.

 

 

Quite possibly so, but Daboll's "fine" OC qualities have to date failed to reveal themselves in a number of opportunities. 

Lining up Demarco or Smith wide helps identify the coverage for his young raw QB. If a LB goes with one of them, its probably man coverage. if not, its probably a zone

 

How is that not setting up Josh to succeed? 

 

I wont try to defend running Gore so much. That probably comes from the HC more than the OC IMO

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1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Other teams have professionals on the other side of the ball.

 

Daboll is a fine OC. If/When JA throws for for 30TDs next year everyone is going to call him a genius 


And Allen doesn’t, everyone will just blame Daboll for it.

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12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Sounds like a story there.  Maybe the same 'ol same 'ol one.

 

But he clearly spends some time with the kids

 


Back when he was TE coach of the Pats his daughter and mine were on the same soccer team.  He came in to Buffalo from NE to spend time with her and see her play when he could.

 

When in Cleveland I got to know the Special Teams Coach (at the time) and his family a little bit.  He worked a lot but pretty much spent all of his free time with his wife and kids.

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How is it the Browns haven't hired someone yet?  Giants, Skins, Panthers wasted no time.  Knew who they wanted and got them (even the Giants moved quick when Tepper stole their man).  Are they getting turned down (like the year they went to Pettine as their 5th choice)?

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2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I have no idea what this means, but it sounds *perfect* for PPP.

FFS - coffee was spit on my monitor and keyboard reading this...LOL

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1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

How is it the Browns haven't hired someone yet?  Giants, Skins, Panthers wasted no time.  Knew who they wanted and got them (even the Giants moved quick when Tepper stole their man).  Are they getting turned down (like the year they went to Pettine as their 5th choice)?

They are trying to meet with everyone but I think McDaniels is their first choice per reports so they scheduled him last. I’ll be surprised if the hire isn’t announced today or tomorrow 

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3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

How is it the Browns haven't hired someone yet?  Giants, Skins, Panthers wasted no time.  Knew who they wanted and got them (even the Giants moved quick when Tepper stole their man).  Are they getting turned down (like the year they went to Pettine as their 5th choice)?

Being last they can now take their time.

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He brought his wife, Karen, - who looks like she wants to speak to the manager

 

Image result for karen meme"

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

They are trying to meet with everyone but I think McDaniels is their first choice per reports so they scheduled him last. I’ll be surprised if the hire isn’t announced today or tomorrow 

 

Think he would take that job/  I'm saying yes.

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Being last they can now take their time.

 

They've been taking their time all along.  Everyone else got their people.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Think he would take that job/  I'm saying yes.

 

They've been taking their time all along.  Everyone else got their people.

Yes I do think he will. 

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3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Think he would take that job/  I'm saying yes.

 

They've been taking their time all along.  Everyone else got their people.

well he brought his wife, so....

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