mead107 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Had no problems at all. People around us very good not a fan of the stadium. For a newer stadium bathroom room line was 1,000’ long in the upper deck. Sat in lower part of 304 and sound from announcers was real bad. Elevator way to small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 People in Boston in general are real scumbags with nasty attitudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 22 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Yes, I do. They were upset it was taking so long and we were driving. They thought Morse was hamming it up for us to stop the clock and they didn’t appreciate that. A few around me were yelling “roll him off the field!” The fans around me were so upset that the refs were “screwing them” because our player was obviously faking and they weren’t making us burn a timeout for the injury. I had to explain that there was 2:59 on the clock and you are only forced to use a timeout under 2 minutes. I was at that game as well. It was terrifying. There was a small part of me that was glad the Bills did not win. I am not exaggerating when I say I did not think I would make it out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 10:15 PM, JGMcD2 said: I lived in Massachusetts for 4 years and I’ve know this for a long time, but my lord Patriots fans as a whole are extremely low class. I’m a huge Bills fan but I work for a professional sports team so the whole obnoxious cheering and crap talking has been out of my toolbox for a few years now. I keep my mouth shut and try to soak in every aspect of the game... I enjoy that portion of it. Picking up the finer details and analyzing things in real time- it just comes with being a professional. Point being, I don’t invite being attacked. On ten separate occasions, TEN, I had people shoving and soliciting me to fight them. Ten different situations where it was 3-5 on 1 during my experience at Gillette with people attempting to fight me. I was appalled. I can MORE than handle myself but it’s not worth 25 to life for what the end result would have been. I’m just shocked... disgusted. The cops/security/game day staff seemingly turned a blind eye to it all. I know we have a bad reputation in Buffalo but I’ve NEVER experienced situations like these. That’s just awful! I use to have season tickets but with kids and well a life I couldn’t accept paying almost 5k for a couple seats.. and well tickets are so expensive I have a feeling most true fans are at home watching and not at the game. What you run into are rich snobby jerks think they have the right be a holes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I was at that game as well. It was terrifying. There was a small part of me that was glad the Bills did not win. I am not exaggerating when I say I did not think I would make it out of there. I was there also. I couldn’t believe how those people behaved. It was truly a disgusting scene. We thought we would make a fun weekend in Boston but we were blown away how ridiculous and nasty the People of Boston are. Everyone has an attitude and are argumentative people with nasty attitudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I was at that game as well. It was terrifying. There was a small part of me that was glad the Bills did not win. I am not exaggerating when I say I did not think I would make it out of there. C'mon man, nothing would happen. Nobody would do anything. Test one of them next time, you'll see that they are absolutely all fluff. I had a guy try something at Gillette last time I was there (maybe 2014?) and I said very loudly "I have a GREAT IDEA!!! How about you put down the nachos and hit the gym for the next year and when I come back to this stadium next time I will sit in these same seats and MAYBE just maybe you'll have a chance, but until then SHUT YOUR FAT FACE". Stunned silence by said Mass-***** and the entire crowd around us died of laughter (most of them were Pats fans as well). No problems the rest of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, wppete said: I was there also. I couldn’t believe how those people behaved. It was truly a disgusting scene. We thought we would make a fun weekend in Boston but we were blown away how ridiculous and nasty the People of Boston are. Everyone has an attitude and are argumentative people with nasty attitudes. I had some swamp thing from south Boston sitting behind me screaming 6 inches from my ear, "*****kkk youuuu Buffalooo." It was not a fun and playful F-you, if there is such a thing. It was really aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: That’s just awful! I use to have season tickets but with kids and well a life I couldn’t accept paying almost 5k for a couple seats.. and well tickets are so expensive I have a feeling most true fans are at home watching and not at the game. What you run into are rich snobby jerks think they have the right be a holes.. I believe that. I’ve got some good friends who are big fans and they’ve never behaved that way... it’s definitely just the 1% that ruin it for everyone else. They’re like that everywhere but I have noticed that Massachusetts folks are undoubtedly more aggressive... especially the generation my age that has experienced 20 or so championship parades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 10:15 PM, JGMcD2 said: I lived in Massachusetts for 4 years and I’ve know this for a long time, but my lord Patriots fans as a whole are extremely low class. I’m a huge Bills fan but I work for a professional sports team so the whole obnoxious cheering and crap talking has been out of my toolbox for a few years now. I keep my mouth shut and try to soak in every aspect of the game... I enjoy that portion of it. Picking up the finer details and analyzing things in real time- it just comes with being a professional. Point being, I don’t invite being attacked. On ten separate occasions, TEN, I had people shoving and soliciting me to fight them. Ten different situations where it was 3-5 on 1 during my experience at Gillette with people attempting to fight me. I was appalled. I can MORE than handle myself but it’s not worth 25 to life for what the end result would have been. I’m just shocked... disgusted. The cops/security/game day staff seemingly turned a blind eye to it all. I know we have a bad reputation in Buffalo but I’ve NEVER experienced situations like these. I know people want to believe we have the best fan base and we probably do as long as we are all wearing the same colors. Bills games can be brutal to opposing fans and obnoxious. I remember going to a game and as a fun rivalry I wore the opposing teams jersey and my girlfriend back then wore Bills gear, I had Bills fans throwing things, talking all sorts of ***** and even threatening me. I was not afraid for myself because I can handle it but putting my gf in harms way was not an option so I took my jersey off and the harassment got even worse so I had to get her out of there. It's most like this everywhere you go in any stadium just fans put blinders on in their own building. Just my own personal experiences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I know people want to believe we have the best fan base and we probably do as long as we are all wearing the same colors. Bills games can be brutal to opposing fans and obnoxious. I remember going to a game and as a fun rivalry I wore the opposing teams jersey and my girlfriend back then wore Bills gear, I had Bills fans throwing things, talking all sorts of ***** and even threatening me. I was not afraid for myself because I can handle it but putting my gf in harms way was not an option so I took my jersey off and the harassment got even worse so I had to get her out of there. It's most like this everywhere you go in any stadium just fans put blinders on in their own building. Just my own personal experiences Yeah, I can definitely see that being the case. I was just kind of appalled it happened numerous times. I had a long coat on over my jersey. You couldn’t tell I was a Bills fan, and all of this was when I was entering and exiting the stadium, not during the game. Our fans can be brutal but I’ve also been in numerous situations at New Era and even on the road where I’ve gotten on some Bills fans for unnecessary behavior. I let into a guy in Pittsburgh last week and from 5 rows up and he got the message when he realized it was another Bills fan and not just Steelers fans. He apologized and ended up yucking it up with Steelers guys around him after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The ones from before 2001 aren't that bad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The British should have done their job centuries ago and burned that place to the ground. It's like Alabama and Florida had a child and relocated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 when the Pats lost, did half their message board try to pretend their coach "held back" and that the game didn't matter anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFire Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Fans are pretty much the same everywhere. I've never seen an opposing fan abused at Gillette and I've been to a lot of games. Friendly razing yes but also welcomed to join in food, drink and a day of fun. I'm not naïve to think it hasn't happened but it's pretty rare. And there is NO WAY that security and police turn a blind eye to any wrong doings on the grounds. That is total BS. As for the fans? The Patriots were sold out for 6 consecutive seasons before BB and TB arrived. They'll still be there. There's a 30 year wait for season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I had some swamp thing from south Boston sitting behind me screaming 6 inches from my ear, "*****kkk youuuu Buffalooo." It was not a fun and playful F-you, if there is such a thing. It was really aggressive. Crazy dirtbags. But for us it wasn’t just the game it was the city in general. We spent 3 days there. Restaurants, shopping and sightseeing and I can honestly say almost everyone we interacted with all had nasty attitudes, no one new we were Bills fans. Awful city! No wonder why the rest of the world dislikes Americans. What a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, FriendlyFire said: Fans are pretty much the same everywhere. I've never seen an opposing fan abused at Gillette and I've been to a lot of games. Friendly razing yes but also welcomed to join in food, drink and a day of fun. I'm not naïve to think it hasn't happened but it's pretty rare. And there is NO WAY that security and police turn a blind eye to any wrong doings on the grounds. That is total BS. As for the fans? The Patriots were sold out for 6 consecutive seasons before BB and TB arrived. They'll still be there. There's a 30 year wait for season tickets. 30 year wait now due to the current team and staff. Go a couple 5-11 seasons and that will all change. 1 minute ago, wppete said: Crazy dirtbags. But for us it wasn’t just the game it was the city in general. We spent 3 days there. Restaurants, shopping and sightseeing and I can honestly say almost everyone we interacted with all had nasty attitudes, no one new we were Bills fans. Awful city! No wonder why the rest of the world dislikes Americans. What a disgrace. While it definitely does not make things right I would imagine that most of the people there put 2 plus 2 together in that you were out of towners coming in what would be poor tourist weather a couple days ahead of a match up with the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: 30 year wait now due to the current team and staff. Go a couple 5-11 seasons and that will all change. While it definitely does not make things right I would imagine that most of the people there put 2 plus 2 together in that you were out of towners coming in what would be poor tourist weather a couple days ahead of a match up with the Bills. Not at all. After the first day we made a point to say we were there for business. Its just the way those people are. Nasty people. Nothing like Western New Yorkers or Southern Ontarians. It was a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, FriendlyFire said: Fans are pretty much the same everywhere. I've never seen an opposing fan abused at Gillette and I've been to a lot of games. Friendly razing yes but also welcomed to join in food, drink and a day of fun. I'm not naïve to think it hasn't happened but it's pretty rare. And there is NO WAY that security and police turn a blind eye to any wrong doings on the grounds. That is total BS. As for the fans? The Patriots were sold out for 6 consecutive seasons before BB and TB arrived. They'll still be there. There's a 30 year wait for season tickets. Yup! I totally made it all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFire Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: 30 year wait now due to the current team and staff. Go a couple 5-11 seasons and that will all change. They were 5-11 the year before Brady took over and had 3 losing season in the 7 years prior. All sold out. Football is a social gathering. A lot of the hardcore fans can't get in now so the crowds may even get better. 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Yup! I totally made it all up. I'm just sharing my experience. But you are definitely lying about the security and police. My friend and neighbor is head of security at the stadium. And as far as the Foxboro police and the State Police barrack in Foxboro right next to the stadium, both have a well earned reputation for no nonsense. So yes you made it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFire Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: 30 year wait now due to the current team and staff. Go a couple 5-11 seasons and that will all change. While it definitely does not make things right I would imagine that most of the people there put 2 plus 2 together in that you were out of towners coming in what would be poor tourist weather a couple days ahead of a match up with the Bills. Boston is filled with tourist year around. No one in Boston cares if your a Bills fan. I'm sorry everyone you met was nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, FriendlyFire said: They were 5-11 the year before Brady took over and had 3 losing season in the 7 years prior. All sold out. Football is a social gathering. A lot of the hardcore fans can't get in now so the crowds may even get better. I'm just sharing my experience. But you are definitely lying about the security and police. My friend and neighbor is head of security at the stadium. And as far as the Foxboro police and the State Police barrack in Foxboro right next to the stadium, both have a well earned reputation for no nonsense. So yes you made it up. What exactly do I have to gain from lying about that? I literally had a security guard watch 3 Pats fans starting shoving Bills fans as they were walking by, then then they shoved me and grabbed me when I ignored them and walked away. I looked and said “Are you going to do anything about that?” They shrugged and didn’t utter a word. I had friends who are fans of different teams call me and warn me when they saw pictures of me at the tailgate that it’s a horrible environment and to watch my back because they’ve seen and experienced horrible things. I was staying with my friend’s family who happen to be Pats fans and they warned us that they had seen and experienced horrible things. Edited December 23, 2019 by JGMcD2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFire Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I find these threads hilarious. I've spent my whole life traveling and have enjoyed every place I've been. I've found people to be different regionally but almost all very accommodating and nice. Buffalo included. Any one that thinks a whole city, region or fanbase is despicable really needs to take a look at themselves. You're saying more about you than the people you are trying to insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, FriendlyFire said: I find these threads hilarious. I've spent my whole life traveling and have enjoyed every place I've been. I've found people to be different regionally but almost all very accommodating and nice. Buffalo included. Any one that thinks a whole city, region or fanbase is despicable really needs to take a look at themselves. You're saying more about you than the people you are trying to insult. I’ve traveled my entire life and travel for work. I enjoy the places I go and I lived in Massachusetts for 4 years. Many of my good friends are Boston sports fans and we get a long. I’ve never had a single solitary issue at a Red Sox/Celtics/Bruins game or any game at an opposing stadium in the country and I’ve been to over 60 different venues over the four major sports. I spent the entire day tailgating with 40+ Patriots fans. There we absolutely zero issues, we had a great time. I’m conscious of the fact this was the 1% that ruined it... I know it happens everywhere in some capacity. I even stated that Buffalo has a bit of a reputation for stuff like this. It’s not a coincidence that Patriots fans warned me about a toxic atmosphere not fans of other teams that had attended games at Gillette. I got separated from the 2 Pats fans I was sitting with at the game on my way out of the stadium and then I started having issues, that’s not a coincidence either. Of course someone who is a Boston sports fan isn’t going to have issues at Boston sports events. Boston sports fans are some of the best in terms of passion - they love their teams . There’s also a reason folks from the Massachusetts/New England region are referred to as Massholes... they’re built differently than most and have a rough demeanor - which is fine. They embrace it... which is also fine. Boston sports fans in the four major sports often rank within the top 5 most disliked fan bases in each of the four major sports. Part of it is due to their success, but that’s not the bulk of it. It’s the attitude and behavior and you are naive if you don’t think that’s the case. They have a reputation across the country of behaving this way, it’s the 1% that ruin it for everyone, but it’s not fake. Edited December 23, 2019 by JGMcD2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFire Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: I’ve traveled my entire life and travel for work. I enjoy the places I go and I lived in Massachusetts for 4 years. Many of my good friends are Boston sports fans and we get a long. I’ve never had a single solitary issue at a Red Sox/Celtics/Bruins game or any game at an opposing stadium in the country and I’ve been to over 60 different venues over the four major sports. I spent the entire day tailgating with 40+ Patriots fans. There we absolutely zero issues, we had a great time. I’m conscious of the fact this was the 1% that ruined it... I know it happens everywhere in some capacity. I even stated that Buffalo has a bit of a reputation for stuff like this. It’s not a coincidence that Patriots fans warned me about a toxic atmosphere not fans of other teams that had attended games at Gillette. I got separated from the 2 Pats fans I was sitting with at the game on my way out of the stadium and then I started having issues, that’s not a coincidence either. Of course someone who is a Boston sports fan isn’t going to have issues at Boston sports events. Boston sports fans are some of the best in terms of passion - they love their teams . There’s also a reason folks from the Massachusetts/New England region are referred to as Massholes... they’re built differently than most and have a rough demeanor - which is fine. They embrace it... which is also fine. Boston sports fans in the four major sports often rank within the top 5 most disliked fan bases in each of the four major sports. Part of it is due to their success, but that’s not the bulk of it. It’s the attitude and behavior and you are naive if you don’t think that’s the case. They have a reputation across the country of behaving this way, it’s the 1% that ruin it for everyone, but it’s not fake. That's a good post. I'm native to SoCa. I've been living south of Boston for many years now (close to Gillette). I find Boston people a little harder to get close to but once you get to know them they make great friends. Second to none. In SoCo I can make 10 best friends in a day but they aren't worth a *****. I find Western NY to have solid people that I like but I'm the kind of guy that tries to make the best of every situation and if it's not good I just keep moving. People are pretty much the same everywhere for the most part. And almost all people are good. 1%ers are everywhere as well. Merry Christmas to you and you family. Edited December 23, 2019 by FriendlyFire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, FriendlyFire said: That's a good post. I'm native to SoCa. I've been living south of Boston for many years now (close to Gillette). I find Boston people a little harder to get close to but once you get to know them they make great friends. Second to none. In SoCo I can make 10 best friends in a day but they aren't worth a *****. I find Western NY to have solid people that I like but I'm the kind of guy that tries to make the best of every situation and if it's not good I just keep moving. People are pretty much the same everywhere for the most part. And almost all people are good. 1%ers are everywhere as well. Merry Christmas to you and you family. Merry Christmas to you and your family as well! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, FriendlyFire said: They were 5-11 the year before Brady took over and had 3 losing season in the 7 years prior. All sold out. Football is a social gathering. A lot of the hardcore fans can't get in now so the crowds may even get better. I'm just sharing my experience. But you are definitely lying about the security and police. My friend and neighbor is head of security at the stadium. And as far as the Foxboro police and the State Police barrack in Foxboro right next to the stadium, both have a well earned reputation for no nonsense. So yes you made it up. Excuse me butting in here, but if the guy had a bad experience and you know the head of security at the stadium and feel that he wouldn't tolerate fan misbehavior or his own personnel overlooking it, wouldn't it be more to the point to try to put @JGMcD2 in touch with your neighbor to get the facts of the who/what/when/where and try to straighten it out/nip any problems in the bud? The PM system is at your service. At the worst case, if lying/making it up were taking place then an investigation might well show it due to security camera footage etc. At the best case, you would be doing your neighbor and friend a "Friendly" by giving him the option to stop something you say he wouldn't tolerate. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28361513/free-agent-pitcher-rich-hill-wife-arrested-incident-gillette-stadium Free-agent pitcher Rich Hill, wife arrested after incident at Gillette Stadium https://www.foxnews.com/sports/mlb-rich-hill-wife-arrested-gillette-stadium-patriots Edited December 24, 2019 by wppete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I can't deal w/ Pats fans anymore, at all. I've basically cut them off - it's pretty babyish, but I don't care at all. Work relationships, friendships, the works. I won't vacation up there anymore. Done. And it feels fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 hours ago, FriendlyFire said: That's a good post. I'm native to SoCa. I've been living south of Boston for many years now (close to Gillette). I find Boston people a little harder to get close to but once you get to know them they make great friends. Second to none. In SoCo I can make 10 best friends in a day but they aren't worth a *****. I find Western NY to have solid people that I like but I'm the kind of guy that tries to make the best of every situation and if it's not good I just keep moving. People are pretty much the same everywhere for the most part. And almost all people are good. 1%ers are everywhere as well. Merry Christmas to you and you family. Great post and well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Fans are the worst, everyone cheats, Brady's an ass, Kraft is actually oriental etc. etc. etc. Next thing we'll hear is the Tea Party was a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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