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The Impeachment Trial of President Donald J. Trump


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6 minutes ago, Foxx said:

no. when there is a dispute between the two branches of government, it is up to the third branch, in this case the Judiciary to settle the dispute.

Correct

It’s absolutely stunning how ignorant people are of how our government is structured.

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7 minutes ago, Foxx said:

no. when there is a dispute between the two branches of government, it is up to the third branch, in this case the Judiciary to settle the dispute.

 

The People decides

 

with the Karl Malone's Atomic Elbow on the Zeke-ish Dems

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

If they really have overwhelming evidence, why do we need to hear from ANY witnesses? Just send this evidence to the Senate, and let them vote.. 

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Democrats are going to try to “Kavanaugh” the Impeachment Trial with new accusations

The most dangerous place on earth, Bob Dole wisely observed, is between Chuck Schumer and the TV cameras.

 

Not surprisingly, while Mitch McConnell usually gets his way, Schumer gets the headlines and TV coverage.

 

Schumer did that again today with his demand for a “fair” trial, meaning to Schumer that Democrats get to reopen the investigation of Trump during the trial, including calling witnesses who did not testify, and doing the job the House Democrats failed to do. A do-over.

 

That’s not usually the way trials work — the pleading of claims and discovery takes place before the trial. House Democrats chose not to do that for key witnesses they wanted — including John Bolton and Mick Mulvaney — because forcing them to testify in the House would have meant court litigation. Democrats were on a timetable driven by the 2020 election that did not allow for a court to decide the clash of branches, so they went with what they had.

 

Schumer and Senate Democrats know that what the House had is not enough to get 20 Republican Senators to vote against Trump — they may not even get one. So the trial takes on a different purpose — to seek evidence and to prolong impeachment investigations for the remainder of the election year based on “new evidence” discovered during the trial.

 

Byron York astutely observes that Senate Democrats are taking the same approach they took in trying to block Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court nomination:

 

 

 

 

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They'll have to votes in the house to move it to the Senate.  I doubt there will be many defectors as the pressure of party outweighs significantly the pressure of constituency from which they are very insulated IMO.  However, I've been wrong on political outcomes several times. 

 

They can't turn back. That's a far worse scenario politically than the narrative that Republicans in the Senate made a sham of a serious matter and have created a constitutional crisis and are threatening our national security.  That plus the fact that Trump was impeached will become their ammo in 2020.  It helps them control the media narrative and will provide some cover over what Barr and Durham are doing.  Pelosi will tell her baby chicks in swing districts that this enhances their re-election hopes and will keep the dems in the majority in the House. 

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Just now, keepthefaith said:

They'll have to votes in the house to move it to the Senate.  I doubt there will be many defectors as the pressure of party outweighs significantly the pressure of constituency from which they are very insulated IMO.  However, I've been wrong on political outcomes several times. 

 

They can't turn back. That's a far worse scenario politically than the narrative that Republicans in the Senate made a sham of a serious matter and have created a constitutional crisis and are threatening our national security.  That plus the fact that Trump was impeached will become their ammo in 2020.  It helps them control the media narrative and will provide some cover over what Barr and Durham are doing.  Pelosi will tell her baby chicks in swing districts that this enhances their re-election hopes and will keep the dems in the majority in the House. 

 

the Senate began it's investigation for Watergate before the House voted on impeachment

 

it's the amazing part and parcel of how Nixon was not impeached, the clear worst of the 4 to undergo the process, by a million miles...  :D

 

 

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3 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

the Senate began it's investigation for Watergate before the House voted on impeachment

 

it's the amazing part and parcel of how Nixon was not impeached, the clear worst of the 4 to undergo the process, by a million miles...  :D

 

 

Trump is worse than Nixon,  Dick didn't try to interfere in an election using foreign powers 

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6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump is worse than Nixon,  Dick didn't try to interfere in an election using foreign powers 

Neither did Trump. Obama and Hillary on the other hand, are responsible for the steele dossier. Which they paid to have foriegn powers dig up dirt on a presidential candidate. 

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54 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

blah blah blah #orangemanbad blah blah blah

i'm sorry but that is not how it works. it is up to either the Executive branch or the Legislative branch to submit the dispute to the Judiciary (not solely the Chief Justice). the Judicial can not insert itself of it's own volition. additionally, i really, really do not think the Dems would want a Constitutional Convention opened up. they should seriously think long and hard about that one....

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