Deranged Rhino Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: They are illegal when you trade something to benefit your political campaign domestically. Materially benefit. That's a key difference. Argue the material benefit of investigating someone who isn't even an opponent yet. Oh, yeah...people forget that little fact. The material benefit to Trump's campaign is predicated on an event that hasn't even happened yet. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: I'm fine to look at whatever needs looking at. Maybe the Republicans should have looked at this when they had the power for two full years. What do you think the Durham investigation is? Or Horowitz's report? Due process -- real due process -- takes time. You're in for a shock. Considering how much false information you've spewed just this morning, I'd suggest you buckle down and reexamine what you think you know about 2016. You'd be surprised what you'll find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’ve been nothing but respectful toward you and interpret your posts as I believe you intend them. I can interpret my own post and intent because I wrote it, but I believe your initial post was poorly framed as I do not know what “wrong” you were referring to. I think part of your problem was you personalized it by making it about Trump, you referenced wrong and impeachable in the same sentence, and clarity was an issue. I think you’re wrong on the freedom loving Americans down here, and as for consensus in Congress I agree, but I was speaking not as a partisan but from a position of pure objectivity on impeachment. Have a blessed day my friend. Lenny, you are clearly a much nicer person than many Trump supporters down here but just as obvious, you wear the same orange robe. Sorry buddy but that is as honest as can be. Second, no one has yet answered the question. To claim it was unclear or poorly framed is just as I said, horseshit. Enjoy your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: In the meantime, the President has committed crimes. Lock him up. What was the crime? There's been ZERO crimes even hinted at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: Materially benefit. That's a key difference. Argue the material benefit of investigating someone who isn't even an opponent yet. Oh, yeah...people forget that little fact. The material benefit to Trump's campaign is predicated on an event that hasn't even happened yet. OMG You guys are morally bankrupt. There's nothing Trump can do that would ever make you criticize him. Unbelievable. I can only imagine the double standard if Barack Obama had done this. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Bob in Mich said: Lenny, you are clearly a much nicer person than many Trump supporters down here but just as obvious, you wear the same orange robe. Sorry buddy but that is as honest as can be. Second, no one has yet answered the question. To claim it was unclear or poorly framed is just as I said, horseshit. Enjoy your day. I answered the question dozens of times. You ignore it because you're a weak minded person. Sucks to be Bob. Just now, jrober38 said: I can only imagine the double standard if Barack Obama had done this. He did do it. That's the point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 lol. Sondland, " i was not aware of, when the light went on" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: What do you think the Durham investigation is? Or Horowitz's report? Due process -- real due process -- takes time. You're in for a shock. Considering how much false information you've spewed just this morning, I'd suggest you buckle down and reexamine what you think you know about 2016. You'd be surprised what you'll find. In other words, you couldn't give a flying you know what about Trump breaking any rules. He's your guy. Ride or die. #ruleoflaw LMFAO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: OMG You guys are morally bankrupt. There's nothing Trump can do that would ever make you criticize him. Unbelievable. I can only imagine the double standard if Barack Obama had done this. DC Tom not criticize Trump???? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I answered the question dozens of times. You ignore it because you're a weak minded person. Sucks to be Bob. He did do it. That's the point. Then lock him up. Lock them all up. You can't keep having it both ways, blindly supporting Trump because he's your guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 What do Tracy Beanz and Fudge have to say about it, though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: What was the crime? There's been ZERO crimes even hinted at. did a POTUS call another government with a request? and if he did who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: OMG You guys are morally bankrupt. There's nothing Trump can do that would ever make you criticize him. Unbelievable. I can only imagine the double standard if Barack Obama had done this. 5 avenue baby! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: did a POTUS call another government with a request? and if he did who cares? Leafs suck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: In other words, you couldn't give a flying you know what about Trump breaking any rules. He's your guy. Ride or die. #ruleoflaw LMFAO That's not at all what I've ever said or believe. I started this looking to prove Trump was guilty with regards to what he was being accused of with Russia. What I found opened my eyes. It would do the same to yours if you let it. But you won't. Because you're an NPC. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 This ? is still ongoing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: OMG You guys are morally bankrupt. There's nothing Trump can do that would ever make you criticize him. Unbelievable. I can only imagine the double standard if Barack Obama had done this. if Donald Trump shot someone on 5th Avenue, even if it was Hillary Clinton, I would criticize him for that. if Obama worked with Saudi Arabia to investigate shady dealings by Dick Cheney that Cheney admitted to on camera, I’d support it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) it is my hope that regardless of the outcome here... whether Trump gets removed from office via impeachment or loses the election... the horse has left the barn. the issue of the deep state and their graft (in all of it's manifestations) of the American public is now within the public's mind's eye. as such, removing Trump is not going to matter, they are now living on borrowed time. the collective unconscious is leaking, you will not be able to stop it at this point. Edited November 20, 2019 by Foxx 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cinga Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 This entire sh1t show is ridiculous! So what? If we don't have strings attached to every cent of foreign aid we're just wasting taxpayer dollars and getting nothing in return? That basic idea is totally lacking in any logic whatsoever. And Joe Biden IS NOT a political rival of Trump, and he never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, jrober38 said: OMG You guys are morally bankrupt. There's nothing Trump can do that would ever make you criticize him. Unbelievable. I can only imagine the double standard if Barack Obama had done this. I'm not defending Trump. I'm asking you to justify yourself. You're presuming an investigation into corruption with regards to Burisma is a material benefit to his political campaign because of Biden's involvement with Burisma, which is predicated on an assumption that Biden will be Trump's opponent in the general election (which is the only way it could materially benefit his campaign). For the sake of argument: if Warren wins the nomination, is this no longer an impeachable offense, because the material benefit to Trump's campaign would cease to exist? And conversely...is the only argument against investigating corruption in the Burisma investigation Biden's involvement with Burisma and the previous investigation? And if it is, isn't this current impeachment an exercise to materially benefit Biden's campaign? By shielding him from investigation into his conflict of interest (which conflict of interest, I hasten to point out, was reported as a conflict of interest by everybody from 2015 until April of 2019)? Point being not that Trump is innocent, or Biden is guilty...but that you - and specifically "you," as in "halfwitted buffoons just like yourself" - only judge this on your preconceived notions of the parties involved. Which is why DR's earlier post was relevant - given multiple instances of similar actions, you only judge the right and wrong of them by your preconceived notions of the parties involved, not what actually happened. Then claim you're not trying to have it both ways. So shut the ***** up, moron. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Hope you're getting more popular on Twitter @DR - you deserve it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: "But Trump should be held personally, criminally liable for other people's interpretations of his actions that he himself never ascribed!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) Sondland, "i don't take notes.." i'm thinking if anyone really needs to... Edited November 20, 2019 by Foxx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 THis Sondiland "testimony" is pure garbage, contradicts himself, goes back and forth, cant recall, others times seems to make factual statement only to latter claim those were his assumptions. He has thrown so much crap against the wall, it is all perfect for both sides as they can cut and slice whatever fits their agenda but in reality this is as bad a "witness" as one could ever have. I wonder ho many times he has perjured himself today. Total waste of time unless you are looking for select, snippets to support your side. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: "But Trump should be held personally, criminally liable for other people's interpretations of his actions that he himself never ascribed!" Just brings to mind this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Materially benefit. That's a key difference. Argue the material benefit of investigating someone who isn't even an opponent yet. Oh, yeah...people forget that little fact. The material benefit to Trump's campaign is predicated on an event that hasn't even happened yet. Spin spin spin. You trying to argue that up is down and down is up. blah blah Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: THis Sondiland "testimony" is pure garbage, contradicts himself, goes back and forth, cant recall, others times seems to make factual statement only to latter claim those were his assumptions. He has thrown so much crap against the wall, it is all perfect for both sides as they can cut and slice whatever fits their agenda but in reality this is as bad a "witness" as one could ever have. I wonder ho many times he has perjured himself today. Total waste of time unless you are looking for select, snippets to support your side. Trump only hires the best people! Especially if they donate a million bucks to his corrupt campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Foxx said: Sondland, "i don't take notes.." i'm thinking if anyone really needs to... Trump's man all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: Spin spin spin. You trying to argue that up is down and down is up. blah blah To Tom? Up is Hillary and down is Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bray Wyatt Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: so his presumption wasnt even his own??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: so his presumption wasnt even his own??? Worse -- it was Schiff's -- filtered through the press. It's a Fusion GPS move. Same wrap up smear Pelosi talked about previously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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