Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Allen certainly has his struggles, but he is improving and slowly learning from his mistakes (hero ball and sliding). This offensive roster is not there yet. Brown is not a real #1, he is a great #2. Beasley is a good #3 and the rest are good role players. We are lacking a true #1 opposite Brown who will win 50/50 balls. Knox is not there yet, and Kroft has shown me nothing. We are lacking a great TE also. The line is still in the works. The starting RB is playing well but he's close to drawing social security and is still getting outrushed by the QB. Not sure what to make of Singletary. Is he a lead back or more of a Sproles type? The overall offensive roster is below average at best, yet are 5-2. The roster can get better, but it probably won't happen this year. And if the Bills make the Playoffs, to me that's a successful season. Good assessment. I will add that I am puzzled by Daboll. Sometimes his play calling is appropriate, even brilliant. Sometimes he calls good plays where we have open guys and Allen fails to see or exploit them. But other times, his play design seems too clever or unnecessarily gimmicky. Or, he designs and calls plays that may be effective in principle, but which our team seems unable to execute, and he seems very slow to adjust or adapt. He seems reluctant to consistently do things that might effectively keep the defense a bit off balance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Good assessment. I will add that I am puzzled by Daboll. Sometimes his play calling is appropriate, even brilliant. Sometimes he calls good plays where we have open guys and Allen fails to see or exploit them. But other times, his play design seems too clever or unnecessarily gimmicky. Or, he designs and calls plays that may be effective in principle, but which our team seems unable to execute, and he seems very slow to adjust or adapt. He seems reluctant to consistently do things that might effectively keep the defense a bit off balance. think he values his play design more than the talent running it I dont think there is room in the playbook for DiMarco to be downfield 30 yards running a streak yet Daboll thought it was worthwhle to try it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: think he values his play design more than the talent running it I dont think there is room in the playbook for DiMarco to be downfield 30 yards running a streak yet Daboll thought it was worthwhle to try it To be fair; that play worked twice last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I agree, but what's the deal with Singletary? I know he's been productive when given the opportunity, but a lot of those stats came on plays where he had a ton of room to run. He was a third round pick and you generally want to see relatively big production when you make that kind of investment. PLENTY of other rookie RB's are out there doing work. I don't really see the elusiveness or the kind of electric playmaking ability I'd like to see from a player who's role is to make splash plays. Maybe it's on Daboll. Maybe not. Either way, the offense desperately needs a player LIKE Singletary. Whether or not that player IS Singletary is a question mark. I too am a little skeptical on Devin. The td was nice but it was in open field. Most of his runs just didn't do anything for me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 42 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: I’ll take Allen over any other QB in the 2018 Draft. same, but not a high bar at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: think he values his play design more than the talent running it I dont think there is room in the playbook for DiMarco to be downfield 30 yards running a streak yet Daboll thought it was worthwhle to try it Against Miami at one point, there was a play where Lee Smith was the checkdown option on 3rd down. To his credit, he caught it and valiantly trucked it, but I don’t think he made those yards even as a younger player. Kroft or Knox should have converted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: I too am a little skeptical on Devin. The td was nice but it was in open field. Most of his runs just didn't do anything for me. He had 3 runs today for 20 yards and had a 10+ yarder called back because of a hold. Seems to me we gotta feed him more. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I too am a little skeptical on Devin. The td was nice but it was in open field. Most of his runs just didn't do anything for me. looks like a nice change of pace back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: To be fair; that play worked twice last year. That’s part of the puzzling aspect of Daboll. He will design these unexpected little wrinkles and gimmicks - like the touchdown pass to Lee Smith - that work. But they work in part because of their very unexpected nature. Once a good workaholic, thorough in preparation team gets some film on them they won’t work or at least the probability goes down. Meanwhile, we do have some skill players, and it’s just possible that having our best players in the best position to make plays might make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 hours ago, tbonehawaii said: Lining up offside 2x today. Is there a more preventable penalty? Defense on a critical 3rd down to not had 10 guys on the field. Not a penalty. But up there with preventable moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mango said: Defense on a critical 3rd down to not had 10 guys on the field. Not a penalty. But up there with preventable moments. Inexcuseable. - do you remember which play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: think he values his play design more than the talent running it I dont think there is room in the playbook for DiMarco to be downfield 30 yards running a streak yet Daboll thought it was worthwhle to try it The shere fact that Dumbell thinks DiMarco is worthy of a deep wheel route speaks volumes on how stupid he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That’s part of the puzzling aspect of Daboll. He will design these unexpected little wrinkles and gimmicks - like the touchdown pass to Lee Smith - that work. But they work in part because of their very unexpected nature. Once a good workaholic, thorough in preparation team gets some film on them they won’t work or at least the probability goes down. Meanwhile, we do have some skill players, and it’s just possible that having our best players in the best position to make plays might make sense. Bingo , I find it hard to believe that lining up Dimarco or Frank Gore out wide is ever our best option Or running a end around to Knox or Lee Smith running patterns Or running your franchise qb on endless runs to try and convert third and short especially after he just came back from a concussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Just keep on posting then. Sorry, couldn’t resist an opening like that. To me I see more good than bad. He leads, he wins. Give the kid a few play makers, some better tackles, and some more experience. Except for the 8 games he has lost so far. Maybe he forgot how to lead and win in those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: looks like a nice change of pace back 20 carries on the season and 172 yards. His 3 runs of 20+ is the same amount Gore has in over 90 carries..... We need this kid more involved in our offense. Edited October 28, 2019 by BananaB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Inexcuseable. - do you remember which play? I think it was the 3rd and 7 before PHI put up their final TD. Announcer mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Are you surprised? A lot of people have been skeptical. people were getting very silly about this team. we still need a QB and better LBs and D linemen. 7 minutes ago, BananaB said: 20 carries on the season and 172 yards. His 3 runs of 20+ is the same amount Gore has in over 90 carries..... We need this kid more involved in our offense. so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I too am a little skeptical on Devin. The td was nice but it was in open field. Most of his runs just didn't do anything for me. I like Devin. I felt like he was running into a wall most of his runs. Our interior line was ugly and every team knows we don’t run wide right so that eliminates 1/3 of the field. We need a true right tackle. We are rotating guys there because neither are the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mango said: I think it was the 3rd and 7 before PHI put up their final TD. Announcer mentioned it. Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, KD in CA said: Bills were due for a down game and Eagles are still a good team and capable of taking advantage. This one was pretty easy to see coming. Commence hysterical overreactions. Agree almost entirely, but the late-game QB play plus the lack of a real pass rush from the RDE position vs. a quality opponent left me concerned. At home, the Bills squeaked by Cincy and Miami, but lost to the Pats and werr blown out by Philly. I hate to say it, but shades of 2008 and 2011 are at the front of my mind. Edited October 28, 2019 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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