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AB accused for 3 instances of sexual assualt & rape against 1 woman. Lawsuit filed against him

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7 minutes ago, Chill said:

Other than what I read in the media, I’m not familiar enough with Shadys case to form an opinion.

 

Waitaminnut here.  There's been a ton of stuff about Shady's night club brawl in the media, but you're not familiar enough with it to form an opinion ......

But you've just heard about this case and you can form an opinion here?

 

Isn't that a little...inconsistent?

 

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3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The gap that some seem to be leaping is that she's filing a lawsuit when she should pursue criminal charges.
 

What we don't know, is whether she approached law enforcement or prosecutors in the appropriate jurisdiction, and they did some sort of investigation and said "not going to charge or prosecute" (which doesn't mean there's no evidence or it didn't happen - just means they don't want to go forward with the case for whatever reason)

 

Maybe it's a money grab, or maybe it's not.

Why sanction a player until there is more evidence regarding the matter? Why rush to judgment as you are advocating with putting him on a suspension status. 

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5 minutes ago, jimmy10 said:

 

You think “kavanah’s” accuser settled and got easy money? 

 

I don’t think he’s saying that.  

 

There were more than one accuser of Kavanaugh.  Outside of Blasey-Ford, believe her if you want, the rest all absolutely lied.  

 

Ulterior motives on that stage were political, not monetary.  

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2 minutes ago, Chill said:

 

I think kavanahs accuser used ulterior motives as motivation to not be truthful. 

What ulterior motives might those be?

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Just now, JohnC said:

Why sanction a player until there is more evidence regarding the matter? Why rush to judgment as you are advocating with putting him on a suspension status. 

Ummmmm you do realize he signed with the Patriots, right?  

 

Do it Goodell.  Do it.

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1 minute ago, 32ABBA said:

 

Would you wait until he punched you in the face in 3 separate incidents?

 

No, she could have sued him after he jizzed on her back, but she didn’t. She also could have chose to have him arrested but she didn’t.

 

I know it’s hard for people like yourself to understand the question I asked. In fact, do a little research.You may find that victims of sexual assault DO NOT come forward the first time it happens.....and it can happen at the hands of the same person

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1 minute ago, Chill said:

 

I think kavanahs accuser used ulterior motives as motivation to not be truthful. 

 

Yes, and look where it got her. She had to quit her job and move her family multiple times, and hire private security because of the death threats. 

 

I don’t know why more women aren’t lining up for that gravy train. 

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Just now, klos63 said:

What ulterior motives might those be?

Read a paper dude.

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Just now, 4merper4mer said:

Read a paper dude.

how about an answer?  I don't get the paper anymore this century.

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9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Waitaminnut here.  There's been a ton of stuff about Shady's night club brawl in the media, but you're not familiar enough with it to form an opinion ......

But you've just heard about this case and you can form an opinion here?

 

Isn't that a little...inconsistent?

 

 

The media is opinion based and not fact based. I need facts to form an opinion. 

 

My opinion on this case is the same, let the facts come out before judging a persons character. 

 

Not inconsistent at all. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

I wonder if Tannenbaum thinks this is unfair given that he is ineligible to ever GM again when all he did was proverbially assault two NFL rosters.

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Who knows how much he would pay her to train him.  10, 20, 30, 40 grand for a few months?  More women than you know would deal with a mildly creepy guy they known for awhile if they paid them.  It's easy to say extortion.  It's easy to say hes a scum bag. 

 

For women civil makes more sense.  Hell convicted racist routinely get a year or less.  The level off proof is less.  If you win you get vindicated and money.  For an Ego that is AB, social black balling would be a larger punishment than any jail time.

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2 minutes ago, klos63 said:

how about an answer?  I don't get the paper anymore this century.

How about stopping being a douche?  It is 100% obvious you know what he is talking about and 100% obvious that you disagree.  Just man up and do your disagreeing or ignore it.  

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1 hour ago, Rocket94 said:

True, but the seed is planted. Even though you tell a jury to disregard a statement, it will always be in their minds! 

 

Sounds like the seed was planted on her neck. And if he cleverly snuck up on her, johnson in hand, how is that consensual? Betcha it's all fist bumps instead of high fives in NE from now on.

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21 minutes ago, GoFlamesGo said:

 

The Chung thing is bizarre, wonder if it has something to do with CBA negotiations coming up. The issue here is that AB is so much more high profile, and has behaved so poorly on his prior team that suspension was warranted even from that. He already is walking on as thin ice as you can imagine.

 

If his text messages are real, even if the rape didn't happen, he did admit to ejaculating on the woman's back (without consent obviously). She wasn't his girlfriend or wife (even then it's on the border of assault). That act/admission alone probably is on par or worse arguable than things like guys like Matt Lauer or Azeez Ansari did, both of whom suffered severe professional consequences. This is the "me too" era/movement for a  reason, this type of behavior is simply NOT OK and cannot be tolerated under any circumstances, money grab or not.

 

The question is whether his texts can quickly be verified, and whether the league thinks that this misconduct warrants being exempt. Remember, Adrian Peterson lost a season immediately without any trial or judge/jury.

Oddly you say it’s obvious there was no consent but also only call it on the border of assault.

 

without consent it’s very clearly a crime however we don’t know what happened, at least yet. 

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Crazy how such a level-headed guy like AB could do something like this. 

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9 minutes ago, 32ABBA said:

Would you wait until he punched you in the face in 3 separate incidents?

 

Speaking for myself, no.  I'd be outta there for good after the first incident.   But...and this is inexplicable to me....I know so many women who goes back to the same @#$% guy after he treats her like crap, not just in romance but housing, jobs, whatever.  I think they're trained for it, "keep sweet" "be nice" "don't hurt his feelings"   Guys do it too, though it seems less common in guys (maybe I'm wrong on that last).

 

20 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Do you drive an expensive car?....

 

Does he attend high level business meetings?

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Just now, wppete said:

The heat is on Kraft now...

 

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Maybe Kraft will hook AB up with his lawyer...

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