foreboding Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) I have been a Bills fan my entire life. As a little kid I remember watching the Electric Company and OJ. Like the rest of us, I was appalled when he was accused of a double murder. Disbelief and heartbroken first, later outraged. We have since learned that Johnny Cochran manipulated evidence, the scene of the crime and, masterfully, got him acquitted. There is almost no one who thinks that this POS is innocent. What I still fail to understand is why is this guy still on the wall? There is nothing about the man that brings any Bills fan any joy. He is an embarrassment, and more importantly, a horrible pariah. He is out enjoying life in Florida, posting on Twitter, golfing: this man who murdered his kid's mother in cold blood. He ripped her open with a knife and almost took her poor friend's head off, a man in the wrong place at the wrong time. The wounds on Goldman suggest he tried to fight back. Who gives a crap if he broke records, he does not represent my team or my home city. He is the antithesis to all that is good. We won nothing with the man, he is no hero to anyone's kids. I'm actually shocked Kim Pegula has allowed him to remain on the Wall of Fame. That wall should have people who also represent the city well? Is it just about stats?? I mean we are talking about a cold blooded killer, a big strong man who executed his own wife! He took his kids mother. He robbed them of her. I see no reason why he should be on that wall. Please Bills, let's expunge this dirtbag murderer from any public recognition. Please. Edited August 5, 2019 by foreboding 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foreboding Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Why should this be locked? The forum is called STADIUM WALL ...and this is a legit issue. I also think this forum is a place where it is possible the management of the team could see how the fans really feel about him being on the wall. Please, pipe in and don't lock this. Edited August 5, 2019 by foreboding 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Here is the thing...as my brother has often said, it is unlikely that there will be an official removal of the name from the WOF. However, if someone were to break in and remove it, it would not go back up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Its a joke that he's still up there on the wall. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Steve O said: Here is the thing...as my brother has often said, it is unlikely that there will be an official removal of the name from the WOF. However, if someone were to break in and remove it, it would not go back up. On the occasion a camera gets a glimpse of his name on the wall, I cringe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Because what he did on the field preceded his criminal life by over two decade and had nothing to do with those later events. Nothing. At. All. Should he be removed from the HOF as well? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I didn't realize he was still on the wall. Just do the right thing and take it down. It's actually embarrassing that this hasn't happened yet. 3 minutes ago, K-9 said: Because what he did on the field preceded his criminal life by over two decade and had nothing to do with those later events. Nothing. At. All. Should he be removed from the HOF as well? Yes, remove him from the HOF as well. Who gives a damn how great someone is at a sport when they commit such a horrific act. I would have zero sympathy for him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, K-9 said: Because what he did on the field preceded his criminal life by over two decade and had nothing to do with those later events. Nothing. At. All. Should he be removed from the HOF as well? Forgetting of course that he was found not guilty, like it or not. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: Because what he did on the field preceded his criminal life by over two decade and had nothing to do with those later events. Nothing. At. All. Should he be removed from the HOF as well? I stated the reasons, and if you think stats are more important than a double homicide, we are not in the same realm of understanding. Is the wall about stats? I think it is whatever the owners make it to be. Good people who rep the city and team. OJ was no hero to our city, he hated it here and we won nothing with him. Big deal, he held the rushing record. HOF, no, but I get it if he was. HOF is a criteria based qualification. Our wall is whatever we want it to be. What our owners want it to be about. Even if in the past is was about stats, how about we also make it about people who love and represent the team well? Edited August 5, 2019 by foreboding 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 K-9 made the point I was going to. Until the HOF removes his bust, the Bills won't do anything regarding the WOF IMO... If they were going to do it, they should've done it when he went to jail. It was the perfect out... IF they did it out of nowhere now, it would be a whole to-do story. Why bring that kind of press in? ALSO IMO, when they decide on renovating the Ralph or building a new stadium either way I see them changing the way they do the wall of fame... it's not treated like other teams do their "Ring of Honor", I think they should move it to the outside of the stadium, or do a monument park style thing instead of having the names on the walls. It will give them advertising space, and it will allow them to remove someone like OJ who simply gets removed in the shuffle. It's less of a story if it's done in conjunction with a full on move of the entire wall, and people won't be all that outraged by him being taken down with the others and not be put back up. Just my 2 pennies though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Blame the jury that acquitted him. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) The glove didn’t fit. It would set a bad prescient, he was found Not Guilty by a jury of his peers. Edited August 5, 2019 by uticaclub 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Steve O said: Here is the thing...as my brother has often said, it is unlikely that there will be an official removal of the name from the WOF. However, if someone were to break in and remove it, it would not go back up. I wonder if the next Bills stadium might omit his name. Seems like that would be an easy solution and cause less of a media stir. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Been talked about many many times 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Jesus this thread again. It is training camp and preseason time, we have more important things to talk about than this topic for the 1000000000000000000x time this offseason and every offseason...FFS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 minute ago, uticaclub said: The glove didn’t fit. It would set a bad prescient, he was found Not Guilty by a jury of his peers. No one in the whole world thinks he was innocent. Because he "got away with it" doesn't mean he has to get away with it on the WOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, mead107 said: Been talked about many many times Have a Meadcoin on me: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Jesus this thread again. It is training camp and preseason time, we have more important things to talk about than this topic for the 1000000000000000000x time this offseason and every offseason...FFS I think it is worth mentioning until it is gone. Get that POS off the WOF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) Would be curious what a poll here would show. I'm all for taking it down. Even if you cling to the notion that he didn't do it, you can't avoid the reality that he was adjudged liable in the subsequent wrongful death civil case, is a further convicted felon on other charges (Las Vegas) even after all that, and has generally speaking done everything in his power to be a terrible ambassador for what it should mean to be up on that Wall in the 1st place. I get the argument for bifurcating a player's football prowess from personal life, but there have to be exceptions for extreme egregiousness, and this should be a no-brainer accordingly. Edited August 5, 2019 by NoHuddleKelly12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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