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So if you’re born after 1980 that makes you one.   Technically I’m considered one.

 

In general that phrase I think has a negative vibe to it.  People think self observed, lazy, rude, pampered, weak, etc...

 

I’d agree this generation doesn’t really have the best work ethic.  Only think I would say in that defense is my dad worked for the same company for 35 years before being laid off.  So loyalty can be a two way street.  Plus many were going to school and or looking for jobs around when the economy collapsed back in 2008 

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I feel bad for them because we are leaving them a mess.

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like most things, i find it's just person to person dependent.  i come across a lot of different ages at work, and i'm really impressed by some of the younger people that come through.  hard working, motivated, pleasant, etc.  i find the minority to be on the lazy side.  i'm sure it's just more of the demographic i'm coming across, but i don't see the typical stereotypes of millennials that we see thrown about every day.

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Is 1980 considered the “millennial start”? I hadn’t heard it was that far back. My adult kids think it’s ‘90 and up and I’ve seen other reports claim ‘00 -as in the actual Millennial. My Son will be 39 next month (‘80). Neither he nor I consider him a millennial. 

Just asking. Anyway, I’ve hired a few in my mgmnt heyday. As mixed results as any era. Fantastic players and leaders/slacking deadbeats. I think there’s far less to it than the hype.

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75% of the millennials I work with have a poor work ethic, can't multitask and want the world handed to them on a plate.  There are a few good ones though.  I will say there are plenty of Gen-X and boomers that are just as lazy though

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I got 2 daughters who are mililenials.... so I actually love some of them

 

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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I feel bad for them because we are leaving them a mess.

I ain't.

 

Then again... Another name for millennial is: "Echo Boomer" because they echo their boomer parents.

 

Your post rings true I suppose. Doomed to repeat the mess.

 

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I’m 35 and don’t really consider myself a millennial. It’s obviously very person specific and I think it’s like most things, when you have a good family structure & support and are surrounded by those with the same, the results are usually smart, productive, successful members of society. It’s harder without those type of things.

 

I will say though as a sweeping generalization, I think there is a huge difference between people my age and people who are 6-7+ years younger. I think a lot of that comes from internet, smart phones, media, etc. presenting a false picture of what life is. Not everyone “deserves” to be a seasoned international traveller by the time they’re 24. Not everyone “deserves” to step out of undergrad with a worthless degree knocking down 6 figures. But that’s all younger people see these days. It’s keeping up with the Jones’ on speed. I do think there is a real problem with entitlement in the younger generation.  

 

I phone interviewed someone yesterday and within 5 minutes was hearing a sob story about his day earlier at his current job where they were very busy and he had to push his lunch break back. This same person probably thinks they should walk in the door and command a 50 grand salary with zero experience in our field, merely by gracing us with his presence. That’s what happens when mcDs is paying $15 / hr though. 

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1 hour ago, Another Fan said:

So if you’re born after 1980 that makes you one.   Technically I’m considered one.

 

In general that phrase I think has a negative vibe to it.  People think self observed, lazy, rude, pampered, weak, etc...

 

I’d agree this generation doesn’t really have the best work ethic.  Only think I would say in that defense is my dad worked for the same company for 35 years before being laid off.  So loyalty can be a two way street.  Plus many were going to school and or looking for jobs around when the economy collapsed back in 2008 

 

Thought it was 1990? Don't think it's that far back, may be wrong though.

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52 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Is 1980 considered the “millennial start”? I hadn’t heard it was that far back. My adult kids think it’s ‘90 and up and I’ve seen other reports claim ‘00 -as in the actual Millennial. My Son will be 39 next month (‘80). Neither he nor I consider him a millennial. 

Just asking. Anyway, I’ve hired a few in my mgmnt heyday. As mixed results as any era. Fantastic players and leaders/slacking deadbeats. I think there’s far less to it than the hype.

He's a millennial.  Can even go as early as 1977.  But, I think that is too early.

 

Xers are really a small splintered group defined by being closer to how Boomers behave or how Millennials behave.  But, like I said... Those two are echoes of each other.

 

I think you really do see thr shift with the kids being born in the 1970s... SO much radically changed during the years, namely the way children were educated at the elementary education level...

 

1980 is definitely millennial. So much changed that year.

8 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said:

I’m 35 and don’t really consider myself a millennial. It’s obviously very person specific and I think it’s like most things, when you have a good family structure & support and are surrounded by those with the same, the results are usually smart, productive, successful members of society. It’s harder without those type of things.

 

I will say though as a sweeping generalization, I think there is a huge difference between people my age and people who are 6-7+ years younger. I think a lot of that comes from internet, smart phones, media, etc. presenting a false picture of what life is. Not everyone “deserves” to be a seasoned international traveller by the time they’re 24. Not everyone “deserves” to step out of undergrad with a worthless degree knocking down 6 figures. But that’s all younger people see these days. It’s keeping up with the Jones’ on speed. I do think there is a real problem with entitlement in the younger generation.  

 

I phone interviewed someone yesterday and within 5 minutes was hearing a sob story about his day earlier at his current job where they were very busy and he had to push his lunch break back. This same person probably thinks they should walk in the door and command a 50 grand salary with zero experience in our field, merely by gracing us with his presence. That’s what happens when mcDs is paying $15 / hr though. 

LoL... 1984 is a millennial! 

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57 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Is 1980 considered the “millennial start”? I hadn’t heard it was that far back. My adult kids think it’s ‘90 and up and I’ve seen other reports claim ‘00 -as in the actual Millennial. My Son will be 39 next month (‘80). Neither he nor I consider him a millennial. 

Just asking. Anyway, I’ve hired a few in my mgmnt heyday. As mixed results as any era. Fantastic players and leaders/slacking deadbeats. I think there’s far less to it than the hype.

I didn't think it was either but after looking around its anyone born between 1981 and 1996.

After that its Gen Z, born between 1995 and 2015. Strange how the ending and beginning years overlap though.

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7 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

 

Thought it was 1990? Don't think it's that far back, may be wrong though.

1990.  Wow... Such a millennial thing to do.  Lop off 10 years of a generation.

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Just now, T&C said:

I didn't think it was either but after looking around its anyone born between 1981 and 1996.

After that its Gen Z, born between 1995 and 2015. Strange how the ending and beginning years overlap though.

Fair enough... My parents were not Boomers, my children not millennials... Thank heavens!

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I worked 5 hours. Why should I have to work 3 more.  And you didn’t do crap the first 5 hours. 

I want more money but I don’t want to work for it. 

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9 minutes ago, Logic said:

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So what's the term for every other age group that's living through the same circumstances. That statement seems like a bunch of garbage to me. If your "30 something" and still haven't figured out how to get your ***** together, maybe it's not completely due to society. 

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7 minutes ago, mead107 said:

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I worked 5 hours. Why should I have to work 3 more.  And you didn’t do crap the first 5 hours. 

I want more money but I don’t want to work for it. 

I think you missed the memo Meadster:

 

Millennial = Echo Boomer

 

Echo Boomer is another name for Millennial because they echo their Baby Boomer parents.

6 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

So what's the term for every other age group that's living through the same circumstances. That statement seems like a bunch of garbage to me. If your "30 something" and still haven't figured out how to get your ***** together, maybe it's not completely due to society. 

Cut them (30 somethings... Hey wasn't their a show about them in the 1980s) slack Jack (I know you're really NOT Jack... But you know more than "Jack")!

 

Their just still kids!  Go easy on them.

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I have been managing millenials for many years.

 

Generally speaking, they suck.

 

  • They have a ridiculous false sense of entitlement.
  • They expect to get a raise BEFORE upping their game, which blows me away every time.
  • And if, by chance, they up their game before they get a raise, they will basically demand a raise about 5 minutes after they go above and beyond.
  • They worry about others WAY more than they worry about themselves.
  • Most of them seem to "suffer" from some sort of anxiety, which is just a byproduct of big pharma/doctors misdiagnosing and unnecessarily prescribing medications.
  • They have zero loyalty/dedication to their co-workers or their employer.
  • They abuse FMLA, bereavement and paid family leave (New York State) without batting an eye.

 

Again - I am generalizing, but each year it gets worse.  In a nutshell, they are lazy pieces of *****.

 

There are DEFINITELY exceptions ... but not many.

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7 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

So what's the term for every other age group that's living through the same circumstances. That statement seems like a bunch of garbage to me. If your "30 something" and still haven't figured out how to get your ***** together, maybe it's not completely due to society. 


I think it mostly refers to the fact that the term "millennial" is often used in derogatory fashion, as in "I bought a house when I was 18, straight out of high school, why can't those lazy, entitled millennials get it together?!". The old, tired trope of millennials as lazy and entitled and/or in any way worse at life than baby boomers ignores the fact the current generation was handed a complete ***** sandwich by the generation that came before. 

Here's an article discussing what I'm talking about:

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/20/16772670/baby-boomers-millennials-congress-debt

 

"Everyone likes to bash millennials. We’re spoiled, entitled, and hopelessly glued to our smartphones. We demand participation trophies, can’t find jobs, and live with our parents until we’re 30. You know the punchlines by now.


But is the millennial hate justified? Have we dropped the generational baton, or was it a previous generation, the so-called baby boomers, who actually ruined everything?


That’s the argument Bruce Gibney makes in his book A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America. The boomers, according to Gibney, have committed “generational plunder,” pillaging the nation’s economy, repeatedly cutting their own taxes, financing two wars with deficits, ignoring climate change, presiding over the death of America’s manufacturing core, and leaving future generations to clean up the mess they created."

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2 hours ago, Another Fan said:

 People think self observed, lazy, rude, pampered, weak, etc...

 

I'd put that characterization more on the Boomers, who've made a real mess of the country (I'm one myself, so I fell bad about how things turned out for the 'flower power' generation).

 

The millennials I know and work with give me hope that things will get better.   Yes, they don't have the same work ethic as their greedy older sibs and parents--who were motivated by money, status, money, social climbing and money--but they're much more in tune with technology and how to use it efficiently, more conscious of diversity being a good thing and less judgmental/prejudiced about the state of the world.   

 

Other than a soaring national debt, bankrupt social security fund and climate change, things should be OK when they take the reigns...

9 minutes ago, Gugny said:

I have been managing millenials for many years.

 

Generally speaking, they suck.

 

  • They have a ridiculous false sense of entitlement.
  • They expect to get a raise BEFORE upping their game, which blows me away every time.
  • And if, by chance, they up their game before they get a raise, they will basically demand a raise about 5 minutes after they go above and beyond.
  • They worry about others WAY more than they worry about themselves.
  • Most of them seem to "suffer" from some sort of anxiety, which is just a byproduct of big pharma/doctors misdiagnosing and unnecessarily prescribing medications.
  • They have zero loyalty/dedication to their co-workers or their employer.
  • They abuse FMLA, bereavement and paid family leave (New York State) without batting an eye.

 

Again - I am generalizing, but each year it gets worse.  In a nutshell, they are lazy pieces of *****.

 

There are DEFINITELY exceptions ... but not many.

 

Go Boomer, go...

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34 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

1990.  Wow... Such a millennial thing to do.  Lop off 10 years of a generation.

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I'm 41, definitely don't consider myself a millennial

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3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

I have been managing millenials for many years.

 

Generally speaking, they suck.

 

  • They have a ridiculous false sense of entitlement.
  • They expect to get a raise BEFORE upping their game, which blows me away every time.
  • And if, by chance, they up their game before they get a raise, they will basically demand a raise about 5 minutes after they go above and beyond.
  • They worry about others WAY more than they worry about themselves.
  • Most of them seem to "suffer" from some sort of anxiety, which is just a byproduct of big pharma/doctors misdiagnosing and unnecessarily prescribing medications.
  • They have zero loyalty/dedication to their co-workers or their employer.
  • They abuse FMLA, bereavement and paid family leave (New York State) without batting an eye.

 

Again - I am generalizing, but each year it gets worse.  In a nutshell, they are lazy pieces of *****.

 

There are DEFINITELY exceptions ... but not many.

This fits my experience with Millennials as well.

  • One guy wanted a bonus for showing up to work, on time, his first Month on the job; like that's an accomplishment.
  • Many will tell you they are the best worker... if they cared enough to try; but they won't because the company doesn't care about them.
  • There is no initiative; they are perfectly content to accomplish nothing the whole day.
  • When they don't know what to do, instead of asking, or learning for themselves, they'll sit there on their phone till someone notices.
  • There is no loyalty or team bonding; they don't talk to anyone. Any free time  is used to bury their face in their phone.

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10 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

I'd put that characterization more on the Boomers, who've made a real mess of the country (I'm one myself, so I fell bad about how things turned out for the 'flower power' generation).

 

The millennials I know and work with give me hope that things will get better.   Yes, they don't have the same work ethic as their greedy older sibs and parents--who were motivated by money, status, money, social climbing and money--but they're much more in tune with technology and how to use it efficiently, more conscious of diversity being a good thing and less judgmental/prejudiced about the state of the world.   

 

Other than a soaring national debt, bankrupt social security fund and climate change, things should be OK when they take the reigns...

Wrong. My generation is pretty terrible and way too sensitive. We are f****d when we take the reigns. We all decided having a degree was of the utmost importance. Yet we failed to realize that although majoring in our passions like Gender Studies or Interpretive Dance was fun, it left us unemployable . STEM is too boring despite its long term benefits.

 

How can we expect to accomplish anything when we're too busy trying to decide what pronoun to use for each unique individual we come across? Let alone make actual decisions.

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1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

I'd put that characterization more on the Boomers, who've made a real mess of the country (I'm one myself, so I fell bad about how things turned out for the 'flower power' generation).

 

The millennials I know and work with give me hope that things will get better.   Yes, they don't have the same work ethic as their greedy older sibs and parents--who were motivated by money, status, money, social climbing and money--but they're much more in tune with technology and how to use it efficiently, more conscious of diversity being a good thing and less judgmental/prejudiced about the state of the world.   

 

Other than a soaring national debt, bankrupt social security fund and climate change, things should be OK when they take the reigns...

 

Go Boomer, go...


Thanks for this post.

I can't help but wonder how a "what do you think of baby boomers?" post would go. I also can't help but wonder how the OP THOUGHT this thread would turn out. When asking for opinions on an entire generation of people, I can't imagine the conversation going any direction but sideways.

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