YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: LOL. Bama is already in unless they lose again. Bama Ohio State assuming they win out Clemson assuming the same LSU if they win out but if they lose it will go to Georgia, Big 10 or PAC. LSU would magically fall behind Bama if they lose. Tua's injury casts a smidgen of doubt but I think the committee would still just give it to em. they did drop Oregon to 14, and moved Baylor up to 9 - so that shows their opinion of those conference races. I think if either Utah or Oklahoma win out and are a 1 loss conf champ they grab the 4th spot given the scenario above plays out. If both win, looks like they may give the big 12 the edge. But they’ve been harping on things like balance, defense, etc so that favors Utah over Oklahoma Edited November 27, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Kirby, I'm not sure why everybody thinks that this game will be so easy for Alabama. Just like I do with the Bills, I watch every play of every Bama game. They have a weakness this year and it is at nose. Gone are the days of Da'Ron Payne and Quinnen Williams. Saban defenses really need a strong nose, one who is also a penetrating pass rusher. This situation was made worse by the injuries to BOTH inside LBs who were lost for the year in camp (one was very good, the other great). The freshmen are studs but are still learning a very complicated system. Also, it should not take 4 scores. Alabama is better than Utah. The Utah defense is supposedly good, right. Do ya think that Utah can cover the Bama receivers. Seriously Kirby? Oklahoma? They beat them with a much better quarterback than Hurts, and the Sooners have zero defense. My point is that a decisive win should really get Alabama in, not 4 scores. Hey, if these other teams are so wonderful, Ohio State Fans should WANT to play the Crimson Tide, no? Oh, I have no issue playing this Alabama team. I’ve been saying all year that they weren’t the same team. I predicted a double digit win by LSU and without that 85 yard TD with a minute to go it would have been. Now, I think that they are better than an average Auburn team. They need to win convincingly to have any shot. They don’t have any good wins and won’t play for a conference titles. When you put their resume side-by-side with OU, OU has the superior resume (assuming they win out). They will have beaten the team ranked 9 twice. They will have wins over a ranked Iowa State, a ranked Oklahoma State and a ranked, at the time UT. They will have a conference championship as well. It’s going to be tough, if not impossible, for Alabama with 1 ranked win (and Auburn may fall out of the rankings with a bad loss) and no conference championship. I don’t think that’s a controversial opinion at all. I’m fact, every expert on that show last night said that. Utah is the other team that has an argument. I just don’t see enough quality wins because the PAC isn’t very good. They have been really tough though. I think OU jumps them both with a win in Bedlam and conference championship win over Baylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Oh, I have no issue playing this Alabama team. I’ve been saying all year that they weren’t the same team. I predicted a double digit win by LSU and without that 85 yard TD with a minute to go it would have been. Now, I think that they are better than an average Auburn team. They need to win convincingly to have any shot. They don’t have any good wins and won’t play for a conference titles. When you put their resume side-by-side with OU, OU has the superior resume (assuming they win out). They will have beaten the team ranked 9 twice. They will have wins over a ranked Iowa State, a ranked Oklahoma State and a ranked, at the time UT. They will have a conference championship as well. It’s going to be tough, if not impossible, for Alabama with 1 ranked win (and Auburn may fall out of the rankings with a bad loss) and no conference championship. I don’t think that’s a controversial opinion at all. I’m fact, every expert on that show last night said that. Utah is the other team that has an argument. I just don’t see enough quality wins because the PAC isn’t very good. They have been really tough though. I think OU jumps them both with a win in Bedlam and conference championship win over Baylor. Fans and especially announcers spend large portions of their lives dreaming of playoffs sans Alabama. It gives them a wider audience. Texas a 9th ranked team? We both know that they pretty much suck. I view them as comparable to Tennessee. I mean really. In fact that entire conference pretty much sucks. Again, injuries to key players (to include 2 top 10 freshmen and 2 ILBs) and the lack of a nose truly did hurt Alabama, let alone the loss of Tua. I'm the first to admit this. Do I think that under these conditions that they are as good as Ohio State? Nope. But they absolutely are better than anyone in the Big 12 or the PAC 12. Much better. Utah and Oklahoma combined could not stop the Tide's 4 great receivers and Auburn would destroy either of those teams. Once again, jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Fans and especially announcers spend large portions of their lives dreaming of playoffs sans Alabama. It gives them a wider audience. Texas a 9th ranked team? We both know that they pretty much suck. I view them as comparable to Tennessee. I mean really. In fact that entire conference pretty much sucks. Again, injuries to key players (to include 2 top 10 freshmen and 2 ILBs) and the lack of a nose truly did hurt Alabama, let alone the loss of Tua. I'm the first to admit this. Do I think that under these conditions that they are as good as Ohio State? Nope. But they absolutely are better than anyone in the Big 12 or the PAC 12. Much better. Utah and Oklahoma combined could not stop the Tide's 4 great receivers and Auburn would destroy either of those teams. Once again, jmo. Baylor is 9. OU will have wins against Baylor, Baylor, Texas, Iowa State and Oklahoma State. That’s 5 ranked wins and a conference title. I don’t know how the committee can put in a team with 1 ranked win and no conference title? It just isn’t going to happen. I think Alabama would be OU. I think OU is more deserving of the spot. I guess it comes down to that (again that assumes 2 more ranked wins for OU). I haven’t seen enough of Utah. They play too late. Admittedly, I have a very low opinion of the PAC so I don’t make time for any of those teams. I saw them once and they lost. This just feels like the year that Bama is going to be out. It’s the perfect storm. They lost, at home, to the one elite opponent that they played. The next best team that they played (Auburn) was ranked 15 at the time. That’s a good win but it is not going to push them over the top IMO. It will all play out in the next few weeks too. There are a bunch of ranked vs. ranked matchups left. I doubt that it goes chalk all the way through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orlando Tim Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 11/26/2019 at 1:47 PM, Gordio said: Michigan is better than Auburn imo & Whisky & Minn are close. Michigan is not good- Big 10 order is OSU at the top and then in some order Minn//Wisc/Penn st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Just now, Buffalo Timmy said: Michigan is not good- Big 10 order is OSU at the top and then in some order Minn//Wisc/Penn st I think it’s OSU-PSU-Wisky mich and Minny are similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 11/28/2019 at 7:14 PM, YoloinOhio said: Wow I thought Clemson had played a soft schedule but Bama is not even on the list. Just now, YoloinOhio said: I think it’s OSU-PSU-Wisky mich and Minny are similar After today Wisc is above Minn obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 What happened to the bama defense? Auburn offense was brutal coming into this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) On 8/11/2019 at 5:42 PM, BullBuchanan said: Clemson and Alabama, no one else matters. You can write those both in permanent marker for at least the next 2 years as well. Edited December 1, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Bama goes DOINK!!! on a chip shot FG to tie and Bama goes DUH with 4 stupid penalties in the last 5 minutes buh bye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 11/26/2019 at 11:45 PM, 4merper4mer said: LOL. Bama is already in unless they lose again. Bama Ohio State assuming they win out Clemson assuming the same LSU if they win out but if they lose it will go to Georgia, Big 10 or PAC. LSU would magically fall behind Bama if they lose. Tua's injury casts a smidgen of doubt but I think the committee would still just give it to em. Bama didn’t let either of the two ranked teams it played score over 50; not sure how you keep them out of the playoff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Bama didn’t let either of the two ranked teams it played score over 50; not sure how you keep them out of the playoff. two losses and no conference title game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: two losses and no conference title game? I was kidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I was kidding I can’t tell sometimes on here They will need some help now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: Bama goes DOINK!!! on a chip shot FG to tie and Bama goes DUH with 4 stupid penalties in the last 5 minutes buh bye It's great to watch Saban completely melt down on the sidelines. A year without Bama in the CFP is a good year. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Love the Auburn win over ‘bama. Great move by Malzahn . Serves Saban right for giving C Bennett’s number to a kicker with no d@#k! Go Buckeyes ! OH ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: I can’t tell sometimes on here They will need some help now No, there is no help they can get. Illinois has more top 25 wins than Bama. They are toast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: No, there is no help they can get. Illinois has more top 25 wins than Bama. They are toast. the metaphysical certitude dagger is Illinois? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Welp, this Alabama team just isn’t the same as the last few years. There’s no defense. They didn’t deserve a spot with a win IMo. You can’t have 1 ranked win and get in with nothing else of substance on your resume. They ended up with no ranked wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Welp, this Alabama team just isn’t the same as the last few years. There’s no defense. They didn’t deserve a spot with a win IMo. You can’t have 1 ranked win and get in with nothing else of substance on your resume. They ended up with no ranked wins. forget it without Tua anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, H2o said: It's great to watch Saban completely melt down on the sidelines. A year without Bama in the CFP is a good year. Yep. Maybe it’s a year for the good guys, and the dark lord BB and the Pats* won’t be in the Super Bowl either. A great college playoff and a Pats free SB would be a great thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I would love to see a team like Utah get in the CFP. They play great defense and do enough on offense. Georgia will catch another L in the SEC title game which will eliminate them. Ohio St., LSU, and Clemson are clearly the 3 best teams. I'm hoping for some new blood in at #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 In: Ohio St, Clemson, LSU 4th team 1 Loss Georgia 1 Loss Big 12 Champ (Baylor or Oklahoma) 1 Loss Utah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Oklahoma will get the nod from those 3, for old times sake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, row_33 said: the metaphysical certitude dagger is Illinois? It was a stark comparison. Lovie Smith and his magic beard and band of 2 stars have more top 25 wins than Bama = insane Edited December 1, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanCRNA Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: What happened to the bama defense? Auburn offense was brutal coming into this game Worst year for injuries on that side of the ball in a decade. Alongside the continual loss of players early to the NFL, and the third DC in four years (who is in over his head, IMO) = Worst Saban defense since he left Michigan State. Additionally, 17 of those points were gifted via 2 pick-sixes, and that abortion of officiating at the end of the first half... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 4:42 PM, GunnerBill said: No. @YoloinOhio - I see you. Fair enough. I take this one as an L. The only team I think can best Ohio State now is Clemson if they are at their best offensively and firing on all cylinders. But Ohio State are the Nat Champ favs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: @YoloinOhio - I see you. Fair enough. I take this one as an L. The only team I think can best Ohio State now is Clemson if they are at their best offensively and firing on all cylinders. But Ohio State are the Nat Champ favs. I agreed with you as you recall. Surprised they pulled it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It was a stark comparison. Lovie Smith and his magic beard and band of 2 stars have more top 25 wins than Bama = insane I know this comment is more about Bama than Illinois, but credit where credit is due for Lovie— his team played good football this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Goodbye Alabama. So sweet to see the less than 1%. Roll Tide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 44 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: I know this comment is more about Bama than Illinois, but credit where credit is due for Lovie— his team played good football this year. great year for the B1G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 If Georgia beats LSU LSU vs tOSU Georgia vs Clemson If LSU beats Georgia and Oklahoma beats Baylor Oklahoma vs LSU tOSU vs Clemson If LSU beats Georgia, and Baylor beats Oklahoma, and Utah beats Oregon Utah vs LSU tOSU vs Clemson If LSU beats Georgia, and Baylor beats Oklahoma, and Oregon beats Utah Baylor vs LSU tOSU vs Clemson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, /dev/null said: If Georgia beats LSU LSU vs tOSU Georgia vs Clemson If LSU beats Georgia and Oklahoma beats Baylor Oklahoma vs LSU tOSU vs Clemson If LSU beats Georgia, and Baylor beats Oklahoma, and Utah beats Oregon Utah vs LSU tOSU vs Clemson If LSU beats Georgia, and Baylor beats Oklahoma, and Oregon beats Utah Baylor vs LSU tOSU vs Clemson What if Wisky beats tOSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: What if Wisky beats tOSU Ohio St, LSU, and Clemson are in no matter what happens this weekend. Seedings might vary, but those three are locks Fourth team comes down to the SEC, Big12, and PAC 12 champsionships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/30/2019 at 6:51 PM, Buffalo Timmy said: Michigan is not good- Big 10 order is OSU at the top and then in some order Minn//Wisc/Penn st I stand corrected Michigan stinks & they should of fired Harbaugh the moment that game ended. On 11/26/2019 at 2:00 PM, Bill from NYC said: I respectfully disagree and also think that Auburn would not be a pushover for Ohio State. Auburn can pretty much play with anyone imo. The way to beat them (again, imo) is to contain their young qb and force mistakes. Their DL keeps them in games. Alabama's defense is banged up. With Tua hurt, the main advantage the Tide has over Auburn is Nick Saban (OK, the receivers too lol). I hope it is enough. You are correct sir, Michigan stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) On 11/30/2019 at 7:01 PM, YoloinOhio said: What happened to the bama defense? Auburn offense was brutal coming into this game After Da'Ron Payne and Quinnen Williams, they lacked that star player at nose. This is very important in a Saban defense. The top rated defensive end in the country coming out of high school lost his mind and didn't play. Oh, and their 2 stand out ILBs were lost for the season in training camp. Not bad enough? The top ranked freshman running back in the country was also injured in camp and lost for the season. Yeah, I suspect that Trey Sanders would have helped time of possession just a bit. Still, the team worked hard and tried. It's not as if our coach was Urban Meyer, whose wife said he was laying on the floor trying to cry after Coach Saban beat him. Good luck with OSU in the upcoming weeks. They do look strong and I hope they don't have their yearly meltdown. Edited December 2, 2019 by Bill from NYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: After Da'Ron Payne and Quinnen Williams, they lacked that star player at nose. This is very important in a Saban defense. The top rated defensive end in the country coming out of high school lost his mind and didn't play. Oh, and their 2 stand out ILBs were ;lost for the season in training camp. Not bad enough? The top ranked freshman running back in the country was also injured in camp and lost for the season. Yeah, I suspect that Trey Sanders would have helped time of possession just a bit. Still, the team worked hard and tried. It's not as if our coach was Urban Meyer, whose wife said he was laying on the floor trying to cry after Coach Saban beat him. Good luck with OSU in the upcoming weeks. They do look strong and I hope they don't have their yearly meltdown. Mostly good points, your team has to lose at some point in the real world deal with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Mostly good points, your team has to lose at some point in the real world deal with it... How am I not dealing with it? They did NOT deserve to make the playoffs this year having given up that amount of points, and without Tua. The things that I listed above were real events, including the lack of a great nose. Alabama has lots of titles and will win more at some point. I am just fine, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: How am I not dealing with it? They did NOT deserve to make the playoffs this year having given up that amount of points, and without Tua. The things that I listed above were real events, including the lack of a great nose. Alabama has lots of titles and will win more at some point. I am just fine, thanks. you are rattled... it’s okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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