Deranged Rhino Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I think all this just leads Pelosi to call for impeachment to make it look like a political wash. The average American who's more concerned about who will win reality voice competitions will just make it look like typical Democrat/Republican fighting for political gain. I can see that if there's only investigations without indictments. If there are indictments, especially of high ranking (cabinet level, Lt types), then its a much different conversation. It'll be impossible to ignore or brush aside if Comey, Baker, McCabe, Brennan, and Clapper get indicted. Even more so if that swings to the Kerry, Lynch, Rice level of the coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Posting the end of the thread, worth going back to the top: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Posting the end of the thread, worth going back to the top: John Brennan is a bad, bad man. Heh, the Atlantic as his source. It is making me laugh all these old news articles that reported all the Obama spying and other illegalities as "no big deal" now coming back to bite them (the DNC and MSM) in the ass a few years later. When you read these articles, 2, 3, 5 years later knowing what we do now, the Obama Administration really was the most corrupt administration we have seen in a lifetime (possibly ever). 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: John Brennan is a bad, bad man. Heh, the Atlantic as his source. It is making me laugh all these old news articles that reported all the Obama spying and other illegalities as "no big deal" now coming back to bite them (the DNC and MSM) in the ass a few years later. When you read these articles, 2, 3, 5 years later knowing what we do now, the Obama Administration really was the most corrupt administration we have seen in a lifetime (possibly ever). They broke every covenant they were supposed to hold. And I say this as one who voted for Obama. I voted for him for his promises to curtail/roll back the surveillance state -- he doubled it in size and used it to spy on his political enemies, violating everything in his oath of office. I voted for him for his promises to end regime change wars -- he doubled down on interventionists/MiC/Neoliberal/Neocon regime change agenda and poured gas on the fire. I voted for him for his promise to be the most transparent administration in history -- he ordered Holder to change the interpretation of the IG laws to PREVENT transparency. 44 made the country worse, not better. He's still a deity to many -- which should be their first clue there's something wrong -- but he was as corrupt as they come and made the country more vulnerable, more divided, and weaker than it has been in decades, if not since the Civil War period. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: I can see that if there's only investigations without indictments. If there are indictments, especially of high ranking (cabinet level, Lt types), then its a much different conversation. It'll be impossible to ignore or brush aside if Comey, Baker, McCabe, Brennan, and Clapper get indicted. Even more so if that swings to the Kerry, Lynch, Rice level of the coup. Even then, the media has done a decent job of painting William Barr as a political tool of the president citing the four page memo. These indictments will be looked at by half the country as Trump using a proxy to take down those who don't like him. In other words, since 95% of Americans have made their mind up already about Trump it probably won't push the needle much either way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 Good. Then bring it on. Payback it isn’t. It’s giving them what they earned. And it’s going to be painful and shocking to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Even then, the media has done a decent job of painting William Barr as a political tool of the president citing the four page memo. These indictments will be looked at by half the country as Trump using a proxy to take down those who don't like him. In other words, since 95% of Americans have made their mind up already about Trump it probably won't push the needle much either way. Yep. Country's already divided, battle-lines are drawn. Everything from about a year ago following is just inciting the coming conflict, not determining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Thread on the details of 5-Eye information sharing / FISA requests from an expert. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Thread on the details of 5-Eye information sharing / FISA requests from an expert. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 OH, THE ANGST! by Scott Johnson https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/05/oh-the-angst.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+(Power+Line) One can feel the anxiety pouring out of the mainstream media stories reporting President Trump’s authorization of Attorney General Barr to declassify the documents underlying the greatest political scandal in American political history — i.e., the Russian collusion hoax. The anxiety is overdetermined. Among other things, it is based in part on the media’s insane opposition to everything Trump and in part on their complicity with the perpetrators of the hoax. Take, for example, this New York Times lead paragraph in the story by Julian Barnes and David Sanger: President Trump’s order allowing Attorney General William P. Barr to declassify any intelligence that led to the Russia investigation sets up a potential confrontation with the C.I.A. It effectively strips the agency of its most critical power: choosing which secrets it shares and which ones remain hidden. We have covered the Times’s publication of classified information in cases too numerous to mention, but including several bearing on this scandal itself. Barnes and Sanger express the utmost respect for the CIA’s “critical power” of declassification and publication, but it is of course a power that the the CIA shares with…the Times itself! In their haste to circulate the Dems’ talking points, it’s a shame that Barnes and Sanger somehow overlook it. Perhaps modesty has overcome Barnes and Sanger. Coincidentally, we can observe the Times stripping the CIA and other intelligence agencies of “its most critical power” in the matters I cited yesterday in “The Assange indictment.” NBC News may have given us the most extreme version of the stories reporting the declassification order. Ken Dilanian and Mike Memoli are reporters on the verge of a nervous breakdown in “In stunning move, Trump declassifies documents related to Russia probe.” Eric Felten teaches us how to read such stories in his valuable RealClearPolitics column “Trump-Russia: The knives are out.” Please do check it out. Free of the anxiety informing the mainstream media stories, Tom Lifson takes a close look at current developments in “Russia hoax origins to be exposed as Trump authorizes AG Barr to declassify Russia probe documents.” And John Solomon peels off one more layer of the onion in his Hill column “Christopher Steele’s nugget of fool’s gold was easily disproven — but FBI didn’t blink an eye.” . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 He keeps using that word... (As the media/Brennan/Clapper/Congress kept using it for the past three years...) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 On 5/26/2019 at 2:37 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Maybe it should be: "Democracy Dies in Declassified Docs" "Darkness says, 'Don't do it'." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, Nanker said: Maybe it should be: "Democracy Dies in Declassified Docs" "Darkness says, 'Don't do it'." nah, democracy is still alive, look at the results all over the world this year already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1133232128697753601 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1133232128697753601 Didn't the inspector general already clear these people of wrong doing? Said these agents could of in no way influenced the investigation like Trump and his propaganda lackeys are welping about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Didn't the inspector general already clear these people of wrong doing? Said these agents could of in no way influenced the investigation like Trump and his propaganda lackeys are welping about 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: Lol . But the IG did already clear the FBI, right? This whole Barr things is another right wing pile of sh it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Didn't the inspector general already clear these people of wrong doing? Said these agents could of in no way influenced the investigation like Trump and his propaganda lackeys are welping about No. The first OIG report was on the Mid Year Exam (the Clinton email investigation). The OIG found loads of evidence of bias and animus - but could not definitively show said animus affected the investigation. The report coming out next is about FISA abuses. Meaning whether or not the warrants gotten on carter page and others were legally obtained. Based on the MYE findings of animus and bias - and the facts available in OS - proving the same animus affected this investigation has already been done. They're all *****. Because they broke the law. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: No. The first OIG report was on the Mid Year Exam (the Clinton email investigation). The OIG found loads of evidence of bias and animus - but could not definitively show said animus affected the investigation. Thank you! 29 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The report coming out next is about FISA abuses. Meaning whether or not the warrants gotten on carter page and others were legally obtained. Based on the MYE findings of animus and bias - and the facts available in OS - proving the same animus affected this investigation has already been done. They're all *****. Because they broke the law. So this report will focus on Trump appointees like Rod Rosenstein? Ya, because they wanted a coup! See how silly this all is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/05/joe-di-genova-john-huber-investigation-of-clinton-foundation-is-a-farce-never-even-started/ Former US Attorney Joe diGenova said this about the three investigations (starting at around the 9 minute mark in audio below) –posed to be investigating leaks and a bunch of other things. He stopped his investigation because of Horowitz so he’s a useless appendage who’s done nothing. In fact, he’s supposed to be investigating Uranium One and yet he never contacted our law firm and we represent the key informant in the case, Doug Campbell. So go figure! And finally Durham, he’s the real McCoy. He’s doing what Barr asked him to do which is get to the bottom of everything, empanel a grand jury, if necessary, turn indictments, if necessary. The big question is whether Horowitz will put on his big boy pants and do something different than when he did the Page – Strzok thing, where he laid out all of his evidence of bias and then he said that there’s no evidence that [this] affected decisions. What a bunch of crap! I mean he basically went dead to help the institution of the FBI and senior people at the DOJ. If he does that again, in the FISA thing, if I were the Attorney General, I’d fire him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Thank you! So this report will focus on Trump appointees like Rod Rosenstein? Ya, because they wanted a coup! See how silly this all is No. It's focusing on all the same players from the MYE. The only reason the IG punted on the MYE was because the FISA abuse was already in the works, and the evidence is overwhelming that people like Sally Yates, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Baker, Lauffman, Kortan, Power, Lynch, Kerry, Clapper and Brennan broke the law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: No. It's focusing on all the same players from the MYE. The only reason the IG punted on the MYE was because the FISA abuse was already in the works, and the evidence is overwhelming that people like Sally Yates, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Baker, Lauffman, Kortan, Power, Lynch, Kerry, Clapper and Brennan broke the law. You mean this IG report??? Quote The OIG discovered text messages and instant messages between three FBI employees which expressed hostility toward 2016 Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump and support for his opponent, Hillary Clinton.[3] The report stated that while there was evidence of political leanings found, the bias did not affect any decision the agents made in their professional capacities relative to the email investigation.[4] James Comey[edit] The report was critical of James Comey. Regarding his July press conference, in which he criticized Clinton even while announcing the investigation was over, the IG said it was "extraordinary and insubordinate for Comey to conceal his intentions (about the press conference) from his superiors", and that "we found none of his reasons to be a persuasive basis for deviating from well-established Department policies."[5] Comey's October decision to send a letter notifying Congress that the investigation had been re-opened one week before the election was described as "ad-hoc" and "a serious error in judgment".[5] Horowitz concluded that prosecutorial decisions in the Clinton case were consistent with precedent and were not affected by bias.[4] Likewise the investigation found no evidence to support claims by Donald Trump and his supporters that the FBI "rigged the case to clear Clinton".[6] The report cites multiple instances of unprofessionalism, bias, and misjudgment, which could have a deleterious effect on the FBI's credibility.[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_General_report_on_FBI_and_DOJ_actions_in_the_2016_election#Findings Basically says Comey handed Trump the election 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: You mean this IG report??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_General_report_on_FBI_and_DOJ_actions_in_the_2016_election#Findings Basically says Comey handed Trump the election Thank you Jim Comey! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: You mean this IG report??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_General_report_on_FBI_and_DOJ_actions_in_the_2016_election#Findings Basically says Comey handed Trump the election Now wait just a minute here! I was led to believe it was the RUSSIANS that handed Trump the election! (Of course there's a slight chance it was actually the American voters...but that's just crazy talk.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Now wait just a minute here! I was led to believe it was the RUSSIANS that handed Trump the election! (Of course there's a slight chance it was actually the American voters...but that's just crazy talk.) It changes constantly. Consistent messaging is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, snafu said: Thank you Jim Comey! he was The Dagger in Hillary's campaign with that reopening of the investigation. that had to have changed the minds of many to not bother voting or switch to Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-steele/british-ex-spy-will-not-talk-to-u-s-prosecutor-examining-trump-probe-origins-source-idUSKCN1SY20K "What's he got to hide?" -- to quote all those who've said over the past three years that refusing to speak = guilt. Then again, there's a lot of evidence outside of this which shows Steele is guilty of knowingly pushing disinformation, paid for and obtained by working WITH Russian intelligence services on behalf of the Clinton Campaign, the FBI, and the Obama administration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, KRC said: It changes constantly. Consistent messaging is an issue. Jim Comey is a Putin puppet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Now wait just a minute here! I was led to believe it was the RUSSIANS that handed Trump the election! (Of course there's a slight chance it was actually the American voters...but that's just crazy talk.) So you are actually using one unfair action to try and ridicule another unfair action. Your point is really that since since both the FBIs f up happened, while the Russians were helping Trump, means that...what? It's ok or something? Try and make an honest point please. 1 hour ago, snafu said: Thank you Jim Comey! But but but....he should go to jail as a traitor??? That's the argument. Really makes since, Trump uses up and throws away all who help him. Just ask those soy bean farmers now living on government hand outs Edited May 28, 2019 by Tiberius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, snafu said: Jim Comey is a Putin puppet. Maybe Comey is Putin. Have you seen the two of them in the same room together? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: Lol . But the IG did already clear the FBI, right? This whole Barr things is another right wing pile of sh it A lot of us don't know what kind of %^$# CNN is shoveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, KRC said: Maybe Comey is Putin. Have you seen the two of them in the same room together? And could the possibly be aliens? The answer is potentially maybe 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, KRC said: Maybe Comey is Putin. Have you seen the two of them in the same room together? Can't be, because Trump likes Putin and hates Comey even though they both helped him win. The difference is, Putin is thrilled and is working to undermine our Republic further, while Comey is sick to his stomach he helped foist this scum bag clown onto our great republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Painting Comey as a patriot is a tough sell, Tibs. No one buys that, not even Comey. The only thing Comey cares about is himself -- which he's proven over and over again with every mistake he made in his tenure. He's a bad guy. Not a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1133453321287688193 https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1133449757765132289 Edited May 28, 2019 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Can't be, because Trump likes Putin and hates Comey even though they both helped him win. The difference is, Putin is thrilled and is working to undermine our Republic further, while Comey is sick to his stomach he helped foist this scum bag clown onto our great republic. Maybe the Russians are way ahead of us in duplicate androids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1133453321287688193 https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1133449757765132289 Just like Trump! Trump refused to be interviewed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1133453321287688193 https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1133449757765132289 wait, so does that mean Steele is obstructing the investigation that he started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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