BillsVet Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Buffalo's DL depth beyond this season is thin and I could easily see McBeane taking someone in the first round to fit that need. It is a strong draft for that area, so there's likely going to be good DL talent available at 9 or wherever they pick on Day 1 of the draft. This would be the conventional approach and predictable given the HC’s background. Yet, each of the four conference championship participants last year featured elite offenses who could easily put up points (cue the person who references the SB final score). In fact, 11 of the 12 playoff teams scored at least 22.9 points per game during the regular season. This is an offensive driven league now and has been for quite some time. With this in mind, I don’t see how taking a DT makes this team that much better. IMO, the only position on defense they should draft in the first round should be a pass rusher. Point is, McBeane need to continue surrounding Allen with skill types. That may mean the HC gets by with less on defense, but so be it. For as many offensive UFA signings as they made, none of the skill ones are dynamic save perhaps John Brown and that’s pushing it. They invested so much in Allen, so it stands to reason they give him another weapon to use. Going WR or TE in the first round is a sign McBeane acknowledge they need to be a modern NFL offense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 It should be special teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Buffalo's DL depth beyond this season is thin and I could easily see McBeane taking someone in the first round to fit that need. It is a strong draft for that area, so there's likely going to be good DL talent available at 9 or wherever they pick on Day 1 of the draft. This would be the conventional approach and predictable given the HC’s background. Yet, each of the four conference championship participants last year featured elite offenses who could easily put up points (cue the person who references the SB final score). In fact, 11 of the 12 playoff teams scored at least 22.9 points per game during the regular season. This is an offensive driven league now and has been for quite some time. With this in mind, I don’t see how taking a DT makes this team that much better. IMO, the only position on defense they should draft in the first round should be a pass rusher. Point is, McBeane need to continue surrounding Allen with skill types. That may mean the HC gets by with less on defense, but so be it. For as many offensive UFA signings as they made, none of the skill ones are dynamic save perhaps John Brown and that’s pushing it. They invested so much in Allen, so it stands to reason they give him another weapon to use. Going WR or TE in the first round is a sign McBeane acknowledge they need to be a modern NFL offense. I have said all along don’t be surprised when McBeane takes a DL with the first pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Buffalo's DL depth beyond this season is thin and I could easily see McBeane taking someone in the first round to fit that need. It is a strong draft for that area, so there's likely going to be good DL talent available at 9 or wherever they pick on Day 1 of the draft. This would be the conventional approach and predictable given the HC’s background. Yet, each of the four conference championship participants last year featured elite offenses who could easily put up points (cue the person who references the SB final score). In fact, 11 of the 12 playoff teams scored at least 22.9 points per game during the regular season. This is an offensive driven league now and has been for quite some time. With this in mind, I don’t see how taking a DT makes this team that much better. IMO, the only position on defense they should draft in the first round should be a pass rusher. Point is, McBeane need to continue surrounding Allen with skill types. That may mean the HC gets by with less on defense, but so be it. For as many offensive UFA signings as they made, none of the skill ones are dynamic save perhaps John Brown and that’s pushing it. They invested so much in Allen, so it stands to reason they give him another weapon to use. Going WR or TE in the first round is a sign McBeane acknowledge they need to be a modern NFL offense. WRT the bold. That's the whole point in picking Oliver. He gets pass rush up the middle, which has historically been the only way to beat Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 expect a cb or a rb, and be pleasantly surprised if it doesn't happen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) BEST FOOTBALL PLAYER ON THE BOARD Which at this point seems more likely to be a Defensive player 19 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Buffalo's DL depth beyond this season is thin and I could easily see McBeane taking someone in the first round to fit that need. It is a strong draft for that area, so there's likely going to be good DL talent available at 9 or wherever they pick on Day 1 of the draft. This would be the conventional approach and predictable given the HC’s background. Yet, each of the four conference championship participants last year featured elite offenses who could easily put up points (cue the person who references the SB final score). In fact, 11 of the 12 playoff teams scored at least 22.9 points per game during the regular season. This is an offensive driven league now and has been for quite some time. With this in mind, I don’t see how taking a DT makes this team that much better. IMO, the only position on defense they should draft in the first round should be a pass rusher. Point is, McBeane need to continue surrounding Allen with skill types. That may mean the HC gets by with less on defense, but so be it. For as many offensive UFA signings as they made, none of the skill ones are dynamic save perhaps John Brown and that’s pushing it. They invested so much in Allen, so it stands to reason they give him another weapon to use. Going WR or TE in the first round is a sign McBeane acknowledge they need to be a modern NFL offense. As much as I agree about the Offense and want an elite one. To write off a Penetrating DT is asinine. The teams with inside pressure can disrupt the best offenses. Bills currently don't have that, and guess what if Oliver is there at 9 that is exactly what he brings. Edited April 11, 2019 by MAJBobby 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, teef said: expect a cb or a rb, and be pleasantly surprised if it doesn't happen. Get ready for Greedy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Get ready for Greedy. Not even the best CB in the class Byron Murphy is better Edited April 11, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Round 1 for us should be, without a doubt, a blue chip DT like Oliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: WRT the bold. That's the whole point in picking Oliver. He gets pass rush up the middle, which has historically been the only way to beat Brady. The best way to beat Brady is keep him off the field. Drafting Dareus really didn't make a big dent in taking down NE. Why would Oliver do it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Finally, a draft thread. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watching since 1964 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Likely they also have trade proposals in place (that would include pick(s) from rounds 4-7) for a veteran DT as a backup plan if they go offense early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 When you evaluate our upcoming schedule what stands out is how many premier RB's we play against. We need to focus on improving our run defense to have a successful season. From my point of view, the best case draft scenario would be Ed Oliver in the first and Dexter Lawerence in the second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 No special teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, gjv001 said: When you evaluate our upcoming schedule what stands out is how many premier RB's we play against. We need to focus on improving our run defense to have a successful season. From my point of view, the best case draft scenario would be Ed Oliver in the first and Dexter Lawerence in the second. Ed Oliver is not going to be your run stopper or hold up against double teams. He's needs to line up as a 3 technique and win with speed and athleticism one v one. Edited April 11, 2019 by BillsVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, gjv001 said: When you evaluate our upcoming schedule what stands out is how many premier RB's we play against. We need to focus on improving our run defense to have a successful season. From my point of view, the best case draft scenario would be Ed Oliver in the first and Dexter Lawerence in the second. Would you enjoy watching a team that scores 12 points per game (again)? Using multiple premium picks on interior defensive linemen is the last thing this team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 You don't reach for a player in the top 10. Draft BPA or trade down. Drafting a low 1st round offensive player at 10 vs drafting a top 10 pass rusher. No brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 One of each. (we will trade up into bottom of round one for second pick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I’m usually a BPA guy but when your offense and defense are this far apart in the rankings you take offense. All year people complained about the offense and were told not to worry because we are going to use draft picks and free agency to fix it. Now most on this board are hoping for Oliver. A defensibe tackle would upset me for a number of reasons. 1) He will be the 2nd or 3rd DT off the board and 5th or 6th d lineman. As opposed to the best player at OT, WR, or TE. If this draft is so deep at DT then there will be a player that can fit into our rotation later in the draft. 2) the aforementioned rotation means a DT will not be on the field every play. With a top 10 pick I want a player that will be on the field every play. 3) we have been through this with Dareus. He was the BPA supposedly. AJ green went one pick later. I know it happens the other way around (Sammy over Mack) but no one really knows who the best player is going to be. 4) we don’t need a Kyle Williams replacement. I keep seeing this on mock drafts as a reason to take a DT at 9. Phillips wasn’t on the team this time last year. His one year deal is just smart cap management. Harrison was pumped up as Kyles eventual replacement. What happened to that? Star is the highest paid player on the team. He cannot be cut for two more years after this one without serious dead cap. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: You don't reach for a player in the top 10. Draft BPA or trade down. Drafting a low 1st round offensive player at 10 vs drafting a top 10 pass rusher. No brainer. Who said anything about reaching? Ed Oliver may be a fine player, but from a positional value standpoint he's not worth more as an interior DL than a good WR or TE who poses a match-up issue for opposing defenses. Buffalo's offense doesn't feature one guy who a defensive coordinator is losing sleep over. Edited April 11, 2019 by BillsVet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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