JohnC Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: i would do away with replay in all sports..hate it. unfortunately, this will not lead to way more in the NHL..including all 5-minute majors. Wonder if they will always include a replay for a major not called? @Dante, man do your boys gut a rabbit foot stuffed up their arse this playoff year I wouldn't do away with the replays. However, I would limit the usage. One approach could be that each team has two to three challenges in a game. If they use a challenge and win the challenge then it shouldn't count against them. After they use up their challenges the coach has no recourse. So the incentive is to not waste your challenges. In all sports the replays seem to be excessively intruding into the game. The camera technology that exists is extraordinary. It is so sophisticated that a camera in space can capture you in detail scratching your itching balls. We are at a point where it is too big a part of the game. The best way to use it is on a limited basis. I'm more prone to root for my team than root against another team. And once a player leaves the home team I usually have little animosity for the departing player. But the manner in which ROR "induced" his departure rubs me the wrong way. Something was going on in the locker room when he was in Buffalo that required action. He's a terrific two way player whose loss created a major void on the Sabres. He and the Blues making it into the Cup Finals would irk me. In this series I'm rooting for the Sharks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 How can 4 officals not see that? What the heck else are they looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 12 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Wow! The Blues have every right to be furious, that looked like a hand pass. I'm thrilled the Sharks came back and won, but the controversial ending feels uneasy. People always look at one call like it's in a vacuum. Let's go over the refereeing that the Sharks had every right to be furious over prior to the overtime. 1)Blatant delay of game as one of the Blues shot the puck over the glass in his own end. I can understand when two sticks are close together as it can look like it got deflected by the forechecking team. In this case, the guys' stick wasn't within a fuggin yard of the defenders stick. Sharks should go to PP but didn't 2) Terrible slash on Haley by Parayko in front of the net that really looked like intent. Could have been a major or at least a double minor. Possible suspension? Who knows but how to 4 sets of officiating eyeball miss it? The puck was there wtf were they looking at? 3) A obvious headshot on Braun. See here 4) Trip called on Burns in the 3rd was bogus as he didn't even touch the guy. On the ensuing PP the Blues score the go ahead So the Blues can cry me a fuggin river. The probably shouldn't have made it to OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Dante said: People always look at one call like it's in a vacuum. Let's go over the refereeing that the Sharks had every right to be furious over prior to the overtime. 1)Blatant delay of game as one of the Blues shot the puck over the glass in his own end. I can understand when two sticks are close together as it can look like it got deflected by the forechecking team. In this case, the guys' stick wasn't within a fuggin yard of the defenders stick. Sharks should go to PP but didn't 2) Terrible slash on Haley by Parayko in front of the net that really looked like intent. Could have been a major or at least a double minor. Possible suspension? Who knows but how to 4 sets of officiating eyeball miss it? The puck was there wtf were they looking at? 3) A obvious headshot on Braun. See here 4) Trip called on Burns in the 3rd was bogus as he didn't even touch the guy. On the ensuing PP the Blues score the go ahead So the Blues can cry me a fuggin river. The probably shouldn't have made it to OT The head shot is why I referenced that up thread in terms of replay missed calls. We know damn all majors that are called are now going to be reviewed...but what about ones that are not called? 1 hour ago, JohnC said: I wouldn't do away with the replays. However, I would limit the usage. One approach could be that each team has two to three challenges in a game. If they use a challenge and win the challenge then it shouldn't count against them. After they use up their challenges the coach has no recourse. So the incentive is to not waste your challenges. In all sports the replays seem to be excessively intruding into the game. The camera technology that exists is extraordinary. It is so sophisticated that a camera in space can capture you in detail scratching your itching balls. We are at a point where it is too big a part of the game. The best way to use it is on a limited basis. I'm more prone to root for my team than root against another team. And once a player leaves the home team I usually have little animosity for the departing player. But the manner in which ROR "induced" his departure rubs me the wrong way. Something was going on in the locker room when he was in Buffalo that required action. He's a terrific two way player whose loss created a major void on the Sabres. He and the Blues making it into the Cup Finals would irk me. In this series I'm rooting for the Sharks. Ban it all, live with the calls...haha, made a rhyme!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, Dante said: People always look at one call like it's in a vacuum. Let's go over the refereeing that the Sharks had every right to be furious over prior to the overtime. 1)Blatant delay of game as one of the Blues shot the puck over the glass in his own end. I can understand when two sticks are close together as it can look like it got deflected by the forechecking team. In this case, the guys' stick wasn't within a fuggin yard of the defenders stick. Sharks should go to PP but didn't 2) Terrible slash on Haley by Parayko in front of the net that really looked like intent. Could have been a major or at least a double minor. Possible suspension? Who knows but how to 4 sets of officiating eyeball miss it? The puck was there wtf were they looking at? 3) A obvious headshot on Braun. See here 4) Trip called on Burns in the 3rd was bogus as he didn't even touch the guy. On the ensuing PP the Blues score the go ahead So the Blues can cry me a fuggin river. The probably shouldn't have made it to OT I'm not saying the Sharks didn't get robbed on those non-calls, they did. That was clearly delay of game, and a blatant slash on Haley. I just hate that everyone will be talking about that play at the end if the game, saying how the Sharks only won because of luck. It ruins a very thrilling game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'm not saying the Sharks didn't get robbed on those non-calls, they did. That was clearly delay of game, and a blatant slash on Haley. I just hate that everyone will be talking about that play at the end if the game, saying how the Sharks only won because of luck. It ruins a very thrilling game. It may taint it in their mind but not in mine. I was so mad last night watching the game. I almost turned it off when the Blues scored on that bullshite penalty to Burns. I wasn't close to feeling guilty when the Sharks scored. The Blues should have had two major penalties in that game with two suspensions to follow for game 4. The NHL should quit their player safety charade the push all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: The head shot is why I referenced that up thread in terms of replay missed calls. We know damn all majors that are called are now going to be reviewed...but what about ones that are not called? Ban it all, live with the calls...haha, made a rhyme!!!! hmmm..apon further review it actually hit the Blue player after Meir hit it. It was actually an accurate call which is surprising considering how much the refs were shoving it up San Jose's ass all night. That was a great opportunity to screw em over again. Pleasantly surprised albeit a little confused. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CommonCents Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: ?? It’s a shame the Maple Leafs stuck a dagger into the Bruins during the first game of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 15 hours ago, CommonCents said: It’s a shame the Maple Leafs stuck a dagger into the Bruins during the first game of the playoffs. I was hoping for the Bruins to make the final. Much more enjoyable watching them lose in the final round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 12:00 PM, plenzmd1 said: Ban it all, live with the calls...haha, made a rhyme!!!! You may be in rhyme but that doesn't mean that you are not out of tune. The best approach to the use of the review is to limit them. And if a review can't be made in a minute then the call should stand. The over use of the technology is affecting the flow of the game. For those annoying millennials who demand perfection I say get in the real world and go to hellll! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 hours ago, JohnC said: The best approach to the use of the review is to limit eliminate them. Fixed I find Larry Brooks pretty insufferable usually, but he's spot on here. https://nypost.com/2019/05/18/nhls-officiating-crisis-has-only-one-fix-and-its-being-ignored/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 hours ago, JohnC said: You may be in rhyme but that doesn't mean that you are not out of tune. The best approach to the use of the review is to limit them. And if a review can't be made in a minute then the call should stand. The over use of the technology is affecting the flow of the game. For those annoying millennials who demand perfection I say get in the real world and go to hellll! ? 13 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Fixed I find Larry Brooks pretty insufferable usually, but he's spot on here. https://nypost.com/2019/05/18/nhls-officiating-crisis-has-only-one-fix-and-its-being-ignored/ Disagree. Replay is a necessity, just not to the extent it's been taken. The original intent to ensure that the play that every one knew was wrong got corrected somehow morphed into super slo mo replays that nobody agrees on anyway. The original intent is still 100% relevant. In another thread a few months ago @row_33 nailed it. Limit replay to real-time play backs, no slo-mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 9 hours ago, SinceThe70s said: Disagree. Replay is a necessity, just not to the extent it's been taken. The original intent to ensure that the play that every one knew was wrong got corrected somehow morphed into super slo mo replays that nobody agrees on anyway. The original intent is still 100% relevant. In another thread a few months ago @row_33 nailed it. Limit replay to real-time play backs, no slo-mo. With respect to the highlighted segment I very much agree. The review excessively intruded on the flow of the game making it less enjoyable to watch. What's happened is that because that there is such a desire to get all the calls right that it has altered the game. Perfection in officiating in any sport never was and is attainable. The best officials recognize that there is as much artistry and judgment in making calls. Being robotically right in making calls doesn't mean that it is the right call in the context and flow of the game. The common sense militia needs to be called to arms to fight the technological zealots. Let's not allow the fantasy pursuit of perfection become the enemy of the good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 10 hours ago, KD in CA said: Fixed I find Larry Brooks pretty insufferable usually, but he's spot on here. https://nypost.com/2019/05/18/nhls-officiating-crisis-has-only-one-fix-and-its-being-ignored/ If Plezmd1 agrees with you then I am comfortable in disagreeing with you. He is a ying while I am a yang. Technology and reviews are part of the sporting scene, not just hockey. It is not going away. If that is an unalterable fact then the issue becomes how best to use it? In my view less is better than more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Who do you think has the best shot at taking down the Bruins? I'm thinking the Sharks... they seem to skate faster than the Blues. Either way... once the cup is won and done my sports season.. maybe a little golf in there... is over until the NFL preseason begins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Hertl and Karlson out tonight. Sharks ain’t the warriors. Sorry @Dante, injuries , or lack thereof such a big part of the playoff equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Hertl and Karlson out tonight. Sharks ain’t the warriors. Sorry @Dante, injuries , or lack thereof such a big part of the playoff equation. Sharks looked done last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Hertl and Karlson out tonight. Sharks ain’t the warriors. Sorry @Dante, injuries , or lack thereof such a big part of the playoff equation. They certainly are. For that reason, the Sharks should forget scoring in the first period. Concentrate on executing headshots to Schartz and Pietrangelo. Not like the refs have been calling them. The Blues have done a very effective job of thinning out our squad. (Pavelski, Hertl, EK65) Time for the Sharks to level the playing field. Hell they almost have to return the favor to be competitive at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Dante said: They certainly are. For that reason, the Sharks should forget scoring in the first period. Concentrate on executing headshots to Schartz and Pietrangelo. Not like the refs have been calling them. The Blues have done a very effective job of thinning out our squad. (Pavelski, Hertl, EK65) Time for the Sharks to level the playing field. Hell they almost have to return the favor to be competitive at this point. It's always the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, Dante said: They certainly are. For that reason, the Sharks should forget scoring in the first period. Concentrate on executing headshots to Schartz and Pietrangelo. Not like the refs have been calling them. The Blues have done a very effective job of thinning out our squad. (Pavelski, Hertl, EK65) Time for the Sharks to level the playing field. Hell they almost have to return the favor to be competitive at this point. old time hockey eh coach? I am pullin for your boys tonight..if nothing else to extend the series and give the Bruins more time to get rusty! 7 in a row for them boys, extended break could hurt em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, BigMcD said: It's always the refs. I mean, we are down two key guys because of headshots that weren't called. I don't want to seem like a little B word. I just would like to have the same opportunity to take out a couple of their better players with no consequences. Seems fair and the refs don't have to get involved. 3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: old time hockey eh coach? I am pullin for your boys tonight..if nothing else to extend the series and give the Bruins more time to get rusty! 7 in a row for them boys, extended break could hurt em! Sharks look like the end is near no doubt. All I can hope for is the replacement guys come out with something to prove. There was almost a fight today in practice. That could be a horrible sign or a good one. I had an impulse buy on Saturday night at an anniversary party and bought two tix online for last Sunday. Buyers remorse after the second period ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Alright, here we go... pulling for the Sharks to force the 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Where did the Blues come from as they weren't even picked to make the playoffs this year? And Tampa Bay being unceremoniously dumped by Columbus really opened the door for the Bruins, much to everyone's chagrin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, njbuff said: Where did the Blues come from as they weren't even picked to make the playoffs this year? And Tampa Bay being unceremoniously dumped by Columbus really opened the door for the Bruins, much to everyone's chagrin. Blues went from the basement to this Very unexpected. I worry they don't have what it takes to beat the Bruins. Damned CBJ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Whelp....that’s that. 13 goals in games 1-3 2 goals in games 4-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Bruins are doomed. Every team that swept a series this post season lost in the next round and 2 of the 3 were swept. For the first time in my life I am St. Louis Blues fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Bruins are doomed. Every team that swept a series this post season lost in the next round and 2 of the 3 were swept. For the first time in my life I am St. Louis Blues fan. Don't tease yourself. Don't watch. You know what's going to happen. Likely in 5....6 at most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Not that I've been paying close attention ... I will be rooting for the St. Louis Blues. How can I root for a town that bastardizes my name so bad it took me a week to figure out people were calling me Jahge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I'm rooting for the Bruins. I just couldn't stomach ROR hoisting the cup after finagling his way out from the Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 15 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: old time hockey eh coach? If I look carefully on the list of the team’s advisors, will I see the name ‘Reggie Dunlop’? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm rooting for the Bruins. I just couldn't stomach ROR hoisting the cup after finagling his way out from the Sabres. Looks like it was a smart move. He had another 3 assists in the clinching game. I don’t blame him at all. It’s his life and profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 O’Reily was so smart getting off this dreadful franchise. I hope they win the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 You whippersnappers won’t get this, but I remember this fondly. This was the season before the Sabres began play. St. Louis Blues last Stanley Cup game played. Oddly enough, against the Bruins. https://www.nbcsports.com/video/bobby-orr-boston-bruins-remember-goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: You whippersnappers won’t get this, but I remember this Waiting to watch snowy Saturday HNIC broadcasts, long before cable TV, especially to watch Orr. The puck often was barely visble, and yet it was awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Just now, I am the egg man said: Waiting to watch snowy Saturday HNIC broadcasts, long before cable TV, especially to watch Orr. The puck often was barely visble, and yet it was awesome. Yep. I made my sister hold the rabbit ears and touch the window -for hours!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Yep. I made my sister hold the rabbit ears and touch the window -for hours!! ? With the homemade aluminum foil rabbit ear extensions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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