Tiberius Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 So I guess you just made it up out of whole cloth. Figures, Trumptards will be a Trumptards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 48 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I hope they do, with either Barr or Trump. The trial before the Senate would be a hoot. I trust Nancy is too wily to accept it, but if the economy holds up another year they may see no other choice but to impeach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Fair enough, but what I was getting at is what is he getting out of doing so? What's his endgame? Perhaps Mueller is working with Barr (either willingly or being compelled), in an effort to simply stall for time, to allow for the OIG report to wrap up completely. The Barr vs Mueller soap opera is focusing House Judiciary Committee time that then can't be used elsewhere. It would fit into team Trump's classic strategy of *look over here* not *over there*. But I believe @Deranged Rhino had mentioned that the OIG report was already being circulated behind closed doors, so buying time may not be necessary... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Sorry if this has already been posted. It is ReasonTv with Napolitano. Talks a lot about Trump/Mueller/Barr He also talks about Flynn lying because the President asked him to talk to the Russians about sanctions pre- inauguration and Flynn was covering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzyEi4TtIrA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Sorry if this has already been posted. It is ReasonTv with Napolitano. Talks a lot about Trump/Mueller/Barr He also talks about Flynn lying because the President asked him to talk to the Russians about sanctions pre- inauguration and Flynn was covering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzyEi4TtIrA Judge Nap is comped and has been for awhile. He knows nothing about Flynn -- and is lying in this interview (deliberately or unknowingly), relying on him as a source at this point is beyond idiotic. He's proven over and over that he knows nothing about this topic as he's been wrong at every turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 39 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Judge Nap is comped and has been for awhile. He knows nothing about Flynn -- and is lying in this interview (deliberately or unknowingly), relying on him as a source at this point is beyond idiotic. He's proven over and over that he knows nothing about this topic as he's been wrong at every turn. he is reading a script written for him it's fun when the staff hates the host so much that they sabotage him on the cue cards, like they did for Larry King and Will McDonough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 THE MASK SLIPS: Rep. Al Green: If We Don’t Impeach Trump, He Will Get Re-Elected. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: THE MASK SLIPS: Rep. Al Green: If We Don’t Impeach Trump, He Will Get Re-Elected. "He added, “Here’s what I say, we’re confronting a constitutional crisis as I speak to you. As I look the people of America in the eye, I’m telling you, we have a constitutional crisis. the chief executive office of the president of the United States refuses to comply with subpoenas and says he will order others to do so, this creates a constitutional crisis”" Goddammit, you stupid *****, why wasn't this a constitutional crisis when Obama and Holder did it, then??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, DC Tom said: "He added, “Here’s what I say, we’re confronting a constitutional crisis as I speak to you. As I look the people of America in the eye, I’m telling you, we have a constitutional crisis. the chief executive office of the president of the United States refuses to comply with subpoenas and says he will order others to do so, this creates a constitutional crisis”" Goddammit, you stupid *****, why wasn't this a constitutional crisis when Obama and Holder did it, then??? suck up and kick down one can base their scale at their own whim when a liberal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, B-Man said: THE MASK SLIPS: Rep. Al Green: If We Don’t Impeach Trump, He Will Get Re-Elected. They're painting themselves into an interesting corner. The only way they're going to get any political use out of impeaching Trump will be if they do so around September or October of 2020. This allows them to lay out all their BS allegations, without allowing the Senate to hold/complete a trial before the 2020 election. Any sooner, and the Democrats get their asses handed to them with the public support Trump will receive after the Senate trail shows that they're full of Schiff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, DC Tom said: "He added, “Here’s what I say, we’re confronting a constitutional crisis as I speak to you. As I look the people of America in the eye, I’m telling you, we have a constitutional crisis. the chief executive office of the president of the United States refuses to comply with subpoenas and says he will order others to do so, this creates a constitutional crisis”" Goddammit, you stupid *****, why wasn't this a constitutional crisis when Obama and Holder did it, then??? Do you really have to ask that question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Includes Barr's/DOJ's letter to the House 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 6, 2019 Author Share Posted May 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Koko78 said: I can accept that Mueller is trying to save his own ass, and that might explain why he was intentionally vague with the obstruction thing (the longer it goes, the more he keeps his name on everyone's lips - which keeps him from being a target.) However, I don't think that he's a 'white hat', especially since he went out of his way to muddy the waters with the report. He's not a stupid man, he damn well knew that leaving the 'obstruction' question open-ended like he did would do nothing but inflame the situation and prolong the political nonsense. People wanted closure, one way or the other, and he went out of his way to insure that there was not going to be any. Fair enough, but what I was getting at is what is he getting out of doing so? What's his endgame? Bob Mueller is Mitt Romney’s spiritual twin. They’re both Never-Trumpers. Bob knows his pants and shoes are muddy. He did the maximum investigation possible even though it was apparent by the end of its first year that Trump was clean and they didn’t have a thing on him. Those bastards kept digging and digging all the while collecting their handsome pay and still came up with strunes. It must have been a boring hellish job to slog along like that and it had to be dispiriting knowing that they had nothing to show for their efforts after starting out so high and mighty leading the Lynch mob. I can can see why that pack of jackals slimed the final report like they did. It was the ONLY way they could continue besmirching the POTUS and his administration. May they all all rot in Hell. Mueller is no white hat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 did they lift a big rock and find collusion under it today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Hanging out with NCIS guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Hanging out with NCIS guys. You mean, Illya Kuryakin. a"SPY" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Koko78 said: I can accept that Mueller is trying to save his own ass, and that might explain why he was intentionally vague with the obstruction thing (the longer it goes, the more he keeps his name on everyone's lips - which keeps him from being a target.) However, I don't think that he's a 'white hat', especially since he went out of his way to muddy the waters with the report. He's not a stupid man, he damn well knew that leaving the 'obstruction' question open-ended like he did would do nothing but inflame the situation and prolong the political nonsense. People wanted closure, one way or the other, and he went out of his way to insure that there was not going to be any. Fair enough, but what I was getting at is what is he getting out of doing so? What's his endgame? Sorry, just has to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, B-Man said: You mean, Illya Kuryakin. a"SPY" A Russian spy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, Cinga said: Sorry, just has to... Mueller is trying to save me 15% or more on car insurance?!? That mother *****! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Cinga said: 7 hours ago, Koko78 said: Mueller is trying to save me 15% or more on car insurance?!? That mother *****! either that or he just tapped Brienne of Tarth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, DC Tom said: A Russian spy! Played by a man born in Glasgow Edited May 7, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 criminal • Hundreds of ex-Justice Department officials put out an extraordinary open letter saying if he weren't President, Trump would be facing multiple obstruction of justice charges, based on what's in special counsel Robert Mueller's report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Tibs, there are a lot of things a President can do that would be considered criminal if you did them. Go ahead...try and declare war on another country. Next! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Tibs, there are a lot of things a President can do that would be considered criminal if you did them. Go ahead...try and declare war on another country. Next! It carries huge powers and responsibilities, that office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Tibs, there are a lot of things a President can do that would be considered criminal if you did them. Go ahead...try and declare war on another country. Next! It's quite a world the dems live in. Attempt to brand a president a traitor to the country, use media sources to spread disinformation, work to assign a SC to perpetuate the fraud, and watch it all evaporate when the only traitors to be found are members of their own cabal. Then, feign outrage over the thought crimes and trot out some ridiculous statement about some nameless insiders purporting to be outraged over charges that would never pass muster. Kavanaugh hearing where a good and decent public servant is torn to shreds. Trump, a less good and less decent man is branded a traitor based on nothing more than conjecture and political animus. I am really struggling to think how the old school dems with standards could support these leftists. I know many will, but what's the next new low for them--public hangings? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: but what's the next new low for them--public hangings? They’re presently focused on public shaming. I’m guessing that’ll wear off as the country begins to tune out fake news and viral social media garbage. Then...we’ll all see how their censorship evolves but it’s not looking good for the future of the nation under the iron fist of these intolerant ‘woke’ types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It's quite a world the dems live in. Attempt to brand a president a traitor to the country, use media sources to spread disinformation, work to assign a SC to perpetuate the fraud, and watch it all evaporate when the only traitors to be found are members of their own cabal. Then, feign outrage over the thought crimes and trot out some ridiculous statement about some nameless insiders purporting to be outraged over charges that would never pass muster. Kavanaugh hearing where a good and decent public servant is torn to shreds. Trump, a less good and less decent man is branded a traitor based on nothing more than conjecture and political animus. I am really struggling to think how the old school dems with standards could support these leftists. I know many will, but what's the next new low for them--public hangings? none are competent enough to tie a proper knot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Rule of law? The letter explains: The Mueller report describes several acts that satisfy all of the elements for an obstruction charge: conduct that obstructed or attempted to obstruct the truth-finding process, as to which the evidence of corrupt intent and connection to pending proceedings is overwhelming. These include: · The President’s efforts to fire [special counsel Robert S.] Mueller and to falsify evidence about that effort; · The President’s efforts to limit the scope of Mueller’s investigation to exclude his conduct; and · The President’s efforts to prevent witnesses from cooperating with investigators probing him and his campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 anything yet? too bad we couldn't have sold short on a stock based on found collusion, libs would have pumped it up to $120,000 a share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Bromwich is a clown/cabal/deep stater to his core. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Not a shock. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, row_33 said: anything yet? too bad we couldn't have sold short on a stock based on found collusion, libs would have pumped it up to $120,000 a share. Tibs is trying to push it to 1M per share. Too bad that Tibs in reality maybe has two nickels to rub together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hedge Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Surely, they have got him this time! There has to be SOMETHING he can be impeached for from 20-30 years ago, right? They even have him on tape admitting it! (clip below) 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 9 hours ago, Hedge said: Surely, they have got him this time! There has to be SOMETHING he can be impeached for from 20-30 years ago, right? They even have him on tape admitting it! (clip below) So where was Trump getting all this money to lose? Russia? If he was losing all this money, he must have been getting cash from somewhere to make it up. Bankrupting casinos is an expensive business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So where was Trump getting all this money to lose? Russia? If he was losing all this money, he must have been getting cash from somewhere to make it up. Bankrupting casinos is an expensive business! IRS can only go back 7 years from today. Are you advocating that the IRS can go several decades back? If they go back for Trump then they can go back for the Clinton's, Biden, Obama, etc.. All that aside losing money does not mean a person is a tax evader. Guys like Trump pay an army of accountants so they stay within the boundaries of the tax code. If the federal govt is dumb enough to encode something then we can't be surprised if somebody takes advantage of it. Care to show where it was against federal law back in the 1980's to do business in Russia? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 22 hours ago, RochesterRob said: Tibs is trying to push it to 1M per share. Too bad that Tibs in reality maybe has two nickels to rub together. imagine the joy of selling short on $1,000,000 shares built on liberal stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: IRS can only go back 7 years from today. Are you advocating that the IRS can go several decades back? If they go back for Trump then they can go back for the Clinton's, Biden, Obama, etc.. All that aside losing money does not mean a person is a tax evader. Guys like Trump pay an army of accountants so they stay within the boundaries of the tax code. If the federal govt is dumb enough to encode something then we can't be surprised if somebody takes advantage of it. Care to show where it was against federal law back in the 1980's to do business in Russia? Where was he getting all this money that he was losing? That's the question. How can one person lose a billion dollars?? Maybe he was laundering Russian money. Just asking. He bankrupted casinos, the guy is obviously incompetent and we already know he doesn't obey laws. So I'm just putting two and two together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Where was he getting all this money that he was losing? That's the question. How can one person lose a billion dollars?? Maybe he was laundering Russian money. Just asking. He bankrupted casinos, the guy is obviously incompetent and we already know he doesn't obey laws. So I'm just putting two and two together. From US investors. At that time he was a part of the USFL which required big money. Trump was connected to Jim Kelly so maybe Kelly even invested 10's of thousands into Trump's ventures. People lose billions quite frequently. Try buying the WSJ on a regular basis and then you would know details. The new casino in the Finger Lakes region is a financially sick operation and has been since it opened. The owner has been courting the state for relief money. The Soviets back during the 1980's did not have a billion to give a Western capitalist billionaire nor would they give it to him if they had it. Trump was the furthest thing from being a potential political figure then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: From US investors. At that time he was a part of the USFL which required big money. Trump was connected to Jim Kelly so maybe Kelly even invested 10's of thousands into Trump's ventures. People lose billions quite frequently. Try buying the WSJ on a regular basis and then you would know details. The new casino in the Finger Lakes region is a financially sick operation and has been since it opened. The owner has been courting the state for relief money. The Soviets back during the 1980's did not have a billion to give a Western capitalist billionaire nor would they give it to him if they had it. Trump was the furthest thing from being a potential political figure then. I wouldn't be surprised if it was that he only cheated his investors for awhile. That might be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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