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He signed 1 year deal for $14M last year and played well.   If we can't get A top end edge rusher in FA or via a trade, Would it be a good idea to sign Suh to a 2 year deal and Draft a edge rusher like Sweet?  We can easily give Suh 2 years $22M. He is a serious player and I think would actually fit in Well here

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:unsure: Worried he'll step on Josh's throat in practice.

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Suh and Hughes on the same team?

 

Refs are gonna need more flags.

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4 minutes ago, #34fan said:

:unsure: Worried he'll step on Josh's throat in practice.

More like Brady's and Darnold's throats

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Suh and Hughes on the same team?

 

Refs are gonna need more flags.

Was he really flagged a lot? I think he has cleaned that up in recent years

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2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

***** no 

Any particular reason why? The guy is good, no denying that. And it looks like he could be a bargain because I'm not hearing teams looking at him for some realson

What if we signed Suh and then traded our 1st next year for Clowny. That would make our defences Elite.

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2 minutes ago, Franchiseneedsme said:

Any particular reason why? The guy is good, no denying that. And it looks like he could be a bargain because I'm not hearing teams looking at him for some realson

 

He's overrated and over paid.

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He was a beast in the playoffs but coasted in the regular season, and he's looking to get paid above anything else. He won't be fully motivated or fit our team well whatsoever. Star, Phillips, and Phillips are enough at the moment, and our DL will more than likely improve via the draft. 

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Just now, MJS said:

 

He's overrated and over paid.

You really think he's not worth what we pay Star?  And how do you know he's over payed? He hasn't signed yet. What if he was only like $8-9M a year. 

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1 minute ago, Franchiseneedsme said:

More like Brady's and Darnold's throats

 

For which he'll garner a 3-5 game suspension. -Pass.

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4 minutes ago, Franchiseneedsme said:

Any particular reason why? The guy is good, no denying that. And it looks like he could be a bargain because I'm not hearing teams looking at him for some realson

What if we signed Suh and then traded our 1st next year for Clowny. That would make our defences Elite.

 

I don’t want to understate this....

 

He’s a human piece of *****.  I don’t want that turdburger with his clown shoes on this team.    He’s dirty AF

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10 minutes ago, Franchiseneedsme said:

He signed 1 year deal for $14M last year and played well.   If we can't get A top end edge rusher in FA or via a trade, Would it be a good idea to sign Suh to a 2 year deal and Draft a edge rusher like Sweet?  We can easily give Suh 2 years $22M. He is a serious player and I think would actually fit in Well here

 

You are going to get flack for this I am sure, but its honestly not a bad idea, its just not very likely. 

 

I don't actually think Beane sees DT as a need right now.  People are grossly over looking both Jordan and Phillips.  Jordan is better than people think because they forget he joined the team mid season and we already had Kyle and Star as starters.  He is also on a 1 year prove it deal and will be hungry to prove he is a starter.  Phillips is also a guy they drafted to be a potential Kyle replacement and who they seem to like a lot who didn't see the field a lot with guys like Kyle, Star, and then Jordan.  

 

So, I actually do not think they will sign another DT like a Suh for instance nor do I really think they will draft one.  A guy like Oliver is hard to pass up, but honestly, Bills haven't been looking at any DT's in FA or trade, but have been looking around for pass rushers.  So I think come draft time we are going to draft an EDGE rusher (if we dont sign one in FA still or trade for one) or a TE...possibly Metcalf (although I think with Cole and Brown, they will wait until 2nd or 3rd round to grab a WR).

 

They don't really know what they have in Jordan and Phillips, so I think they are going to let those guys battle out for the starter job and see how they do this year and then if neither cease control they will look at DT in next years draft or free agency.  

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1 minute ago, Franchiseneedsme said:

You really think he's not worth what we pay Star?  And how do you know he's over payed? He hasn't signed yet. What if he was only like $8-9M a year. 

 

Teams are figuring out that he isn't a difference maker any more. He's not worth the baggage and I do think he is a crappy person that would not be good for the locker room. So no, I would not really want him at any price.

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Ok don't laugh....What about Clay Matthews if the price is low....our LBs could learn a lot from him...I know he is older and not what he once was but if the price was right ...would he be a fit?  He would sell a lot of jerseys.  He probably wouldn't come here anyways...I assume if GB or maybe a Superbowl contender like NE doesn't sign him he will retire.

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5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

You are going to get flack for this I am sure, but its honestly not a bad idea, its just not very likely. 

 

I don't actually think Beane sees DT as a need right now.  People are grossly over looking both Jordan and Phillips.  Jordan is better than people think because they forget he joined the team mid season and we already had Kyle and Star as starters.  He is also on a 1 year prove it deal and will be hungry to prove he is a starter.  Phillips is also a guy they drafted to be a potential Kyle replacement and who they seem to like a lot who didn't see the field a lot with guys like Kyle, Star, and then Jordan.  

 

So, I actually do not think they will sign another DT like a Suh for instance nor do I really think they will draft one.  A guy like Oliver is hard to pass up, but honestly, Bills haven't been looking at any DT's in FA or trade, but have been looking around for pass rushers.  So I think come draft time we are going to draft an EDGE rusher (if we dont sign one in FA still or trade for one) or a TE...possibly Metcalf (although I think with Cole and Brown, they will wait until 2nd or 3rd round to grab a WR).

 

They don't really know what they have in Jordan and Phillips, so I think they are going to let those guys battle out for the starter job and see how they do this year and then if neither cease control they will look at DT in next years draft or free agency.  

 

Jordan is depth...period. Harry may become an OK DT, but he certainly isn't there yet. DT is most definitely a need and there's bound to be a good one at the #9 spot.

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2 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

 

Jordan is depth...period. Harry may become an OK DT, but he certainly isn't there yet. DT is most definitely a need and there's bound to be a good one at the #9 spot.

 

And how do you know this?  Jordan played a partial year here.  And they liked what they saw and made him a priority to keep him.  Given his lack of time to prove his worth, they agreed on a 1 year prove it deal and he will be hungry and seems to want to earn a long term deal in Buffalo.  

 

How do you know Phillips isn't there yet?  Thats easy to say, but really you have no information to say that.  We aren't at practices, we don't see him in the meetings, we don't know how he has progressed because he was behind Kyle and Star last year.  They didn't draft him to sit on the bench for 5 years, they drafted him to hopefully succeed Kyle.  And he was one of the big favorites all through camp last year with coaches and teammates raving about him.  

 

So I have a hard time believing they are not going to give the 2nd year DT they just drafted a shot to win the job before investing a high pick in another DT.  And especially since they also have Jordan who at the very least will compete with Phillips to push each other.  

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52 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

My guess is we go DT at 9 and OL or Irv Smith Jr. in the 2nd.

This is the most likely outcome.

 

Besides expecting a DT to be BPA at 9, Suh is a dirty player the Bills do not need. 

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A definite no for me. He takes way too many plays off. There is a reason he moves from team to team. He is the antithesis of the process.

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