WhyteDwarf Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, LeGOATski said: I guess it's a good thing some people actually care. Like we see in this case, with prostitution often comes trafficking. Secure the border and maybe there will be less trafficking... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: Secure the border and maybe there will be less trafficking... Nevermind... Edited February 22, 2019 by N.Y. Orangeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, WhyteDwarf said: Secure the border and maybe there will be less trafficking... That's a good first step. Step two would be to make any "johns" arrested for soliciting from trafficked women culpable and criminally liable for the trafficking crime as well ala rico changes with organized crime. Not that that will stop a whole lot, but it'd be much easier to get those jackasses off the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Won't matter if he was aware of it. Trust me, the media will bury him. This will be a huge PR disaster for Kraft, and NE to a certain extent. I'd think the spa owners will be in more trouble for human trafficking, like jail trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: What if they were illegally brought into the country under false pretenses and forced to do this as a slave? There are degrees in this and this situation is among the worst. As I said in my original post, we don’t have all the facts and there could be two very different realities occurring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: I've already gone through this multiple times in this thread- that matters legally speaking but it doesn't matter optically speaking and what the outrage machine will (or should) do with it. The reality is this: If you pay for sex, you're potentially getting it from a slave. He took that risk and he will pay in reputation and likely in career because of that. More to the point, it's a hard sell to imagine that he went in there and didn't have a single clue. If it was a well run establishment with willing women it would probably not be such a sketchy ass place. Yup. You'd think he'd be smart enough to at least have it checked out first by someone. I mean, it sounds like he was a regular. Maybe he got off on the danger aspect, these things are never completely about sex. The thing is, knowing how the media operates, you can guarantee a long line of women he's paid for over the years will now come forward to tell their stories. Then you'll get the women he's worked with saying he's a sleaze, groper, or has propositioned them inappropriately. They're going to lap this up. And then you'll probably have people coming forward about other high profile sports figures. It'll follow the same pattern as when the Harvey Weinstein story broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: That's a good first step. Step two would be to make any "johns" arrested for soliciting from trafficked women culpable and criminally liable for the trafficking crime as well ala rico changes with organized crime. Not that that will stop a whole lot, but it'd be much easier to get those jackasses off the street. Policing against men who pay for sex is kinda like the war on drugs, it's a useless endeavor. Just collect sex tax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: This will be a huge PR disaster for Kraft, and NE to a certain extent. I'd think the spa owners will be in more trouble for human trafficking, like jail trouble. This is a huge looming problem for Goodell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: That's a good first step. Step two would be to make any "johns" arrested for soliciting from trafficked women culpable and criminally liable for the trafficking crime as well ala rico changes with organized crime. Not that that will stop a whole lot, but it'd be much easier to get those jackasses off the street. Best thing to do is legalize it in controlled premises. Make an actual career that cuts out the pimps, requires the women to pay tax etc. Wouldn't 100% solve the problem but would make it a hell of a lot better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: He was not the one trafficking the girls... He is the Market and the reason these girls are trafficked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: That's what I thought. Don't shoot up a pizza parlor you whack job. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: Policing against men who pay for sex is kinda like the war on drugs, it's a useless endeavor. Just collect sex tax. We live in a country of piss poor punishment. Everything is a plea deal and community service. Nothing says recidivism like "I had to pay a fine." I know from a real standpoint it doesn't work, but what about forced castration on men who use trafficked prostitutes? That'd ruffle some feathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Hookergate I guess he never got a chance to deflate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, RochesterRob said: This is a huge looming problem for Goodell. The thing is, it shouldn't be. Goodell fined Jim Irsay $500K and took away draft picks a couple of years ago for prescription drug abuse. Goodell just has to come up with a punishment that suits the crime for patronizing a spa guilty of human smuggling. I think the question becomes: did Kraft know about the smuggling? If he did, the punishment should be even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: We live in a country of piss poor punishment. Only for certain crimes... Oh, and we do have more ppl in prison per capita than any other country. Secure the boarder, legalize drugs and prostitution and tax the ***** out of them. Trafficking will go away. Edited February 22, 2019 by WhyteDwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, wppete said: Hey Tom be careful you don't know where that mouth had been... Oh too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Yeah, that one. Looks like he appeared in Federal court yesterday. Interesting that this is a passing Blip. A Terrorist but Jussie Smollete runs for Days Edited February 22, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Best thing to do is legalize it in controlled premises. Make an actual career that cuts out the pimps, requires the women to pay tax etc. Wouldn't 100% solve the problem but would make it a hell of a lot better. That might satisfy the men in the population but the women especially those who are wives or girlfriends might have a different take on your idea. If your idea ever goes legal then I want to be there with an online school for divorce and palimony lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, RochesterRob said: That might satisfy the men in the population but the women especially those who are wives or girlfriends might have a different take on your idea. If your idea ever goes legal then I want to be there with an online school for divorce and palimony lawyers. Women already own divorce court, so it's covered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Virgil said: As I said in my original post, we don’t have all the facts and there could be two very different realities occurring. *****, stop making sense!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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