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I advocate for a republic but not one in which any asshat gets a say. 

 

More liberal demagogues are buying votes from idiots who believe in their socialist utopia because they’re too stupid or uneducated to know better. 

 

Why should those people get a vote? Our founders knew better. Shame on us.

 

There needs to be some sort of criteria for the vote. Otherwise the idiot socialists will drown us with them. 

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1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Silly Greggy...

 

there's a heirarchy of oppression, and gays are down the list....way down the list....from black/brown people.

 

When in doubt, consult the org chart.

 

 

 

“Why has the conduct of the black nationalists escaped notice while that of the Covington students has been unfairly denounced?

 

I think it’s due, in large part, to the identity politics hierarchy.”

 
 
 
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1 minute ago, The_Dude said:

 

But im not. Look at my boy Sulla. 

 

Its a long and very complicated story but before Caesar became dictator for life, Sulla was just that. After fixing things-n-stuff he laid down his dictatorship, restored a strengthened republic (it was strengthened but ironically would die) and went home. 

 

Lincoln blatantly ignored the constitution. 

 

Churchill interned people without habeas corpus. 

 

Extreme times, extreme measures. 

looking forward to the day when you get to the part of book where Brutus betrays Caesar, for historical correlations to current events.

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47 minutes ago, Foxx said:

looking forward to the day when you get to the part of book where Brutus betrays Caesar, for historical correlations to current events.

 

Is Brutus a good or bad man?

 

When the silliness made Trump into Julius Caesar in the play, what was their point exactly?

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Foxx said:

looking forward to the day when you get to the part of book where Brutus betrays Caesar, for historical correlations to current events.

 

Actually, lady, there’s a lot to be learned there and the similarities are freaking frightening. 

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HEY, REMEMBER WHEN NOBODY WAS SUPPOSED TO CRITICIZE DAVID HOGG BECAUSE HE WAS JUST A HIGH SCHOOL KID?

 

 

 

 

 

COVINGTON: IF YOU STILL THINK NICK SANDMANN’S SMILE IS PROOF OF RACISM, YOU’RE SEEING WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

Surely if Sandmann’s objective had been to harass the Native Americans and sow racial discord, he would not have attempted to defuse the situation. In fact, this gesture supports the claim he made in his official statement that he “motioned to my classmate and tried to get him to stop engaging with the protestor, as I was still in the mindset that we needed to calm down tensions.”

 

That’s just one moment from the video footage. There are others. There’s the moment when the Black Hebrew Israelites, a black nationalist cult, tells one of the few black teens that his friends are going to kill him and steal his organs, and a young white man turns to his classmate, touches him affectionately, and says, “But we love you!” There’s the moment when the black nationalists declare that “your president is a homosexual” and a high school kid responds, “Who cares?” There’s the moment when some of the teens begin to suspect that Phillips has not waded into their midst with the best of intentions (he would later assert to media reporters that the teens were “beasts” and the cult members “their prey,” a false and possibly willful misreading of the situation) and one shouts, “I’m so confused.”

 

There are also moments that cast some of the teens in a less-than-favorable light. At least one appears to make a tomahawk chop—an offensive gesture from sporting events in which team names have been taken from Native American culture. That is insensitive behavior that an adult in a position of authority over these young men should discourage in the future.

 

But most of the Covington kids do not perform tomahawk chops. Most jump, wave their arms, and cheer—and many do so before Phillips arrives. Their stated explanation—they were attempting to drown out the torrent of hate coming from the Black Hebrew Israelites—makes sense, and it squares with the timeline evident from the video.

 

 

Read the whole thing.

 

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Fake News Media Doubles Down with Another Covington Catholic MAGA Teen Smear.

 

 

 

ALSO:

 

 

There's another video going around allegedly of a Covington kid saying "it's not rape if you enjoy it."

The Left is absolutely desperate to destroy these children for some reason, so now they think they've found their trump card.

Not so much. Here's why:

 

The longer video shows that the comment was made during a back and forth with the racist Black Israelites. They were taunting a black student from Covington, calling him "*****" and "Coonye West." Of course this fact is ignored by the Left....

 

The kid says it after the Black Israelites make some other comment that is hard to discern. It's a joking response to something they said. Not a funny joke. But then again the kid looks to be about 14, you maniacs. Calm down.

 

Also another kid immediately says "he doesn't go to Covington" after the comment was made. Is that true? I don't know. There are a bunch of girls standing there too and Covington is an all male school, so obviously other non-Covington kids were in the mix.

 

But regardless, it's one inappropriate comment made by a child in response to racist provocation of an adult. If you're more focused on the child's comment than the adult's, you are a fraud and a liar and a hypocrite and your opinion doesn't matter. The end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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-they're white kids

-they're Catholic

-they're from Kentucky

-they were at a pro-life rally

-they're happy & smiling, and

-they support President Trump.

That is why the left feels compelled to destroy them.

 

Also it takes the news cycle off of #BuzzFeedFakeNews

 

 

 

 

 
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2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

In this case, it's entirely your fault. You began a thread with one premise based on the available evidence. New evidence has come out since you started this thread which shows you, and the many others who jumped to a conclusion, were wrong. You have had the opportunity to admit, "I got this one wrong" and move on, but instead you've doubled down in a way no one else is. 

 

You didn't do that because of the Deep State. You did that because you're a troll who is not capable of being honest. 

 

That should put you on a bunch of people's ignore lists who tried, for years, to give you the benefit of the doubt. 

 

Sad. 

Back on page 11 in this thread, as Gleeful Gator was being admonished for his duplicity, he responded with "yawn". He started the thread and now hopes to hijack it because he must know deep down inside that he was/is/and forever will be, wrong.

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1 hour ago, Foxx said:

oh enlightened one, let me help you out here.

 

there is a very good reason why this is a significant event. if the propagandized press is allowed to continue to foster unrest the likes of which this bull#### story has, they are going to be very responsible hen the shooting starts. this is an effort to contain the evil and not let them foster what they so desire.

Foxes, always with hens on their mind.

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1 hour ago, Foxx said:

you just know that account is linked to someone @CNN.

 

Sure, it could be related to CNN or another leftist source.

I would also not be surprised, however, if the account was linked to someone on the right, who wanted to show how the MSM responds, and in turn, how their loony pawns react. This incident has caused some people to wake up to the fact that the MSM does not report facts. And that may have been the end game.

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Just now, row_33 said:

 

Greatest President Ever

 

The Twitter comments are horrid. I can't believe people really think like that. It is like a cesspool there. Only slightly better than here. Seriously, Twitter is vile.

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13 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Actually, it’s kinda my thing, and they are. But nice chirp in. 

 

we will agree to disagree on basically everything

 

so was Brutus a good or bad man (I don't really have an answer or care to, I know the play inside out, but curious as to how he's perceived in each age).)

 

14 minutes ago, Paulus said:

The Twitter comments are horrid. I can't believe people really think like that. It is like a cesspool there. Only slightly better than here. Seriously, Twitter is vile.

 

you mix the Clintons and Trump and hope for rectitude and prim and proper behaviour?

 

I've always been sitting here cackling and laughing at people trying to make sense of any of this.

 

 

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1 minute ago, row_33 said:

 

we will agree to disagree on basically everything

 

so was Brutus a good or bad man?

 

 

He was a patrician obvlivious to the political landscape around him. The legend of his name had more to do with his actions than anything else. He was like a son to Caesar. Had Octavian declined Caesars wealth it would have gone to Brutus. Brutus did what he thought was right, but his lack of political savvy that only a patrician could have made him blind to the results of his actions which created another 2 decades of civil war. 

 

Brutus was a man. He was neither bad nor good. He was a man. It’s complicated. But other than the murder and Phallsarus he’s not really overly important. 

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11 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

He was a patrician obvlivious to the political landscape around him. The legend of his name had more to do with his actions than anything else. He was like a son to Caesar. Had Octavian declined Caesars wealth it would have gone to Brutus. Brutus did what he thought was right, but his lack of political savvy that only a patrician could have made him blind to the results of his actions which created another 2 decades of civil war. 

 

Brutus was a man. He was neither bad nor good. He was a man. It’s complicated. But other than the murder and Phallsarus he’s not really overly important. 

 

Thank you.

 

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11 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Why ask by the way? Brutus of all people. 

 

A key role in Shakepeare's play.

 

A life in Plutarch.

 

I thought you were the classical scholar.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

A key role in 1. Shakepeare's play.

 

A life in Plutarch.

 

I thought you were the classical scholar.

 

 

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1. Not my area. 

 

2. My fascination is akin to Gibbons. I'm obsessed with Rome. I'm obsessed with it's autopsy. How did such a juggernaut fall? The more I learn the harder it is to figure out. I want the US to avoid being Rome at all costs. That wasn't Plutarch's game. I've never read his work direct, but as you can imagine it's cited often in things I have read.  

 

I study mostly military history. Rome is something I will study till I die. My other fascinations are WWI, Churchill, and just warfare in general. 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

1. Not my area. 

 

2. My fascination is akin to Gibbons. I'm obsessed with Rome. I'm obsessed with it's autopsy. How did such a juggernaut fall? The more I learn the harder it is to figure out. I want the US to avoid being Rome at all costs. That wasn't Plutarch's game. I've never read his work direct, but as you can imagine it's cited often in things I have read.  

 

I study mostly military history. Rome is something I will study till I die. My other fascinations are WWI, Churchill, and just warfare in general. 

 

 

 

cool, my  close reading is on several topics with 25 books going at once.

 

my favourite politician is in Burckhardt:

 

A near-despotism, without morals or principles, such as Pandolfo Petrucci exercised from after 1490 in Siena...
 
 Insignificant and malicious, he governed with the help of a professor of juris prudence and of an astrologer,
and frightened his people by an occasional murder. His pastime in the summer months was to roll blocks of stone from the top of Monte Amiata, without caring what or whom they hit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

cool, my  close reading is on several topics with 25 books going at once.

 

my favourite politician is in Burckhardt:

 

A near-despotism, without morals or principles, such as Pandolfo Petrucci exercised from after 1490 in Siena...
 
 Insignificant and malicious, he governed with the help of a professor of juris prudence and of an astrologer,
and frightened his people by an occasional murder. His pastime in the summer months was to roll blocks of stone from the top of Monte Amiata, without caring what or whom they hit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm afraid I'd be rather disappointing in conversations on political theorists. I have a base knowledge to be sure, Machiavelli,  St Ambrose, Talleyrand, Locke, and Voltaire are all people I'm familiar with. But I cannot lecture on them, nor could I keep up with somebody keen on the topic. 
 

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11 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

I'm afraid I'd be rather disappointing in conversations on political theorists. I have a base knowledge to be sure, Machiavelli,  St Ambrose, Talleyrand, Locke, and Voltaire are all people I'm familiar with. But I cannot lecture on them, nor could I keep up with somebody keen on the topic. 
 

 

believe me, any honest attempt at a conversation is welcome

 

i have a good friend getting his doctorate in something egregiously arcane and useless for the real world, he is great at avoiding what appears to being washed over Niagara Falls when he obtains this.

 

 

and i'm well washed in this post-postmodern world, it's the best for my view of life.

 

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7 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

holy *****, i'm still laughing. thanks :thumbsup:

 

 

49 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

... My fascination is akin to Gibbons. I'm obsessed with Rome. I'm obsessed with it's autopsy. How did such a juggernaut fall? ...

 

i'm convinced it all boils down to the lead piping they used in their plumbing systems.

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I honestly do think the MAGA hats is all that was needed to drive this story.  As a lefty, I judge anyone wearing a MAGA hat or a pro-life shirt.  But I’d do the same to someone with a Bernie Sanders shirt.  And I’m sure many on the right would do the same to a Clinton shirt or a hat saying SHW and Proud.

 

i won’t condemn them of course, but I’ll judge (right and wrong). I won’t let the media or others use that pre-conceived judgment  I have against me though, that’s the key.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Foxx said:

holy *****, i'm still laughing. thanks :thumbsup:

 

 

i'm convinced it all boils down to the lead piping they used in their plumbing systems.

 

NO. GODDAMNIT NOOO. No. Stop. No.

 

The Romans didn't know what lead poisoning was because they didn't suffer from it. Yes they used lead pipes, but within a couple weeks the pipes had a phosphorus buildup on them that prevented lead poisoning. Roman water was cleaner than Flints is now. 

I hope you're just ***** with me. 

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