Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Sorry for the formatting. Also, I recognize that some guys didn't play full games, but it's the best I could do G Played Yards Comp % YDS/A TD Int Sack Rating YDS/G Rush Y Rush T Total TD Total Yrds Mayfield 13 3349 64.6 7.54 24 11 25 95.1 258 131 1 25 3480 Darnold 12 2698 57.8 6.99 17 15 26 77.8 225 110 1 18 2808 Rosen 13 2129 55.4 5.93 10 14 39 66 164 138 0 10 2267 Allen 11 1850 51.7 6.29 7 11 27 63.7 168 536 6 13 2386 Jackson 6 1022 58.2 7 6 3 14 84.9 68 605 3 9 1627 If they played 16 games G Played Yards Comp % YDS/A TD Int Sack Rating YDS/G Rush Y Rush T Total TD Total Yrds Mayfield 13 4122 64.6 7.54 30 14 31 95.1 258 161 1 31 4283 Darnold 12 3597 57.8 6.99 23 20 35 77.8 225 147 1 24 3744 Rosen 13 2620 55.4 5.93 12 17 48 66 164 170 0 12 2790 Allen 11 2691 51.7 6.29 10 16 39 63.7 168 780 9 19 3471 Jackson 6 2725 58.2 7 16 8 37 84.9 68 1613 8 24 4339 Edited December 31, 2018 by Virgil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 You might be building your team wrong if your QB gets sacked 40-50 times. These rookies came into some ***** situations. The completion percentage for Jackson is actually the most shocking to me. His ball placement was god awful in college. He basically feasted on terrible defenses and garbage time against good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 Jackson's throws usually come with no pressure, on play-action, to a guy just running drag routes. The fear of his rushing ability changes the entire dynamic of the game. I don't see any way in which it holds up as it hasn't for any QB in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, Virgil said: Sorry for the formatting. Also, I recognize that some guys didn't play full games, but it's the best I could do G Played Yards Comp % YDS/A TD Int Sack Rating YDS/G Rush Y Rush T Total TD Total Yrds Mayfield 13 3349 64.6 7.54 24 11 25 95.1 258 131 1 25 3480 Darnold 12 2698 57.8 6.99 17 15 26 77.8 225 110 1 18 2808 Rosen 13 2129 55.4 5.93 10 14 39 66 164 138 0 10 2267 Allen 11 1850 51.7 6.29 7 11 27 63.7 168 536 6 13 2386 Jackson 6 1022 58.2 7 6 3 14 84.9 68 605 3 9 1627 If they played 16 games G Played Yards Comp % YDS/A TD Int Sack Rating YDS/G Rush Y Rush T Total TD Total Yrds Mayfield 13 4122 64.6 7.54 30 14 31 95.1 258 161 1 31 4283 Darnold 12 3597 57.8 6.99 23 20 35 77.8 225 147 1 24 3744 Rosen 13 2620 55.4 5.93 12 17 48 66 164 170 0 12 2790 Allen 11 2691 51.7 6.29 10 16 39 63.7 168 780 9 19 3471 Jackson 6 2725 58.2 7 16 8 37 84.9 68 1613 8 24 4339 Josh Allen rushing total for the year is 631 so his 16 game total would be 918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: Josh Allen rushing total for the year is 631 so his 16 game total would be 918. I’m just looking at stats on ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I didn't watch much of the others. Mayfield has the best surrounding cast. JA passes the eye test and he has the worst WR and 2nd worst OL. It's still too early to tell. They may all be good/great QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 52 minutes ago, Virgil said: I’m just looking at stats on ESPN His pass total for the season is: 12 games 52.8 comp pct. 2074 yds 10 TDs. 12 ints 16 games with 4 more games on par with today 2994 yds. 237/424. 55.6 comp pct. 22 TD's 16 ints 80 passer rating pretty good good for a rookie with no help!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Lenigmusx said: His pass total for the season is: 12 games 52.8 comp pct. 2074 yds 10 TDs. 12 ints 16 games with 4 more games on par with today 2994 yds. 237/424. 55.6 comp pct. 22 TD's 16 ints 80 passer rating pretty good good for a rookie with no help!!! Are you extrapolating out to 16 games using only his numbers from today? That’s not how it works. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 hours ago, Lenigmusx said: His pass total for the season is: 12 games 52.8 comp pct. 2074 yds 10 TDs. 12 ints 16 games with 4 more games on par with today 2994 yds. 237/424. 55.6 comp pct. 22 TD's 16 ints 80 passer rating pretty good good for a rookie with no help!!! It’s just hard for me to look at the numbers and say he isn’t the 3rd best of the 5. Like pre-draft, he has all the tools to be the best, but he’s not there. For me, it’s: Mayfield Darnold Allen Rosen Jackson Same way I felt pre-draft, only Allen and Rosen swapped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 hours ago, Virgil said: I’m just looking at stats on ESPN ESPN must not have included yesterday's games in their totals yet as per https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm and announced during the game Allen had 8 rushing TDs this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 OP has the stats wrong. Gonna have to redo this one. Especially since yesterday was Allen's best game of the season and one of Darnold's worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 hours ago, Virgil said: I’m just looking at stats on ESPN They are late to update. Nfl.com is up to date immediately. 3 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: OP has the stats wrong. Gonna have to redo this one. Especially since yesterday was Allen's best game of the season and one of Darnold's worst. Yes. The ones for allen are correct in my thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 good try, op! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, Virgil said: It’s just hard for me to look at the numbers and say he isn’t the 3rd best of the 5. Like pre-draft, he has all the tools to be the best, but he’s not there. For me, it’s: Mayfield Darnold Allen Rosen Jackson Same way I felt pre-draft, only Allen and Rosen swapped. Now which qb’s had better o-lines, receivers, and a run game to help him... i’ll Tell you the answer you don’t want to hear, all of them had better situation than Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, gordong said: Now which qb’s had better o-lines, receivers, and a run game to help him... i’ll Tell you the answer you don’t want to hear, all of them had better situation than Allen. Rosen had a pretty crappy situation. Oline there is garbage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 How is this prorated 16 game stats figured? I don’t think it’s very accurate. When mining the data and prorating it you have many of variables. You can’t just take the current data and divide by games and then multiply that number by 16. You have ave to take in account the strength of schedule, the defenses played as well as the players progression. Allen was a completely different player after coming back from injury and his play vs Miami showed even more progress. Rosen was on a team with no OL and one decimated by injury. Again too many variables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, gordong said: Now which qb’s had better o-lines, receivers, and a run game to help him... i’ll Tell you the answer you don’t want to hear, all of them had better situation than Allen. They all had different players around them, coaches, game plans, opponents, circumstances, skill sets, personalities, etc., etc.... A fun exercise to compare the QBs; however, completely meaningless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Interesting.. i favored Rosen as the pick going into the draft but glad we got JA. As the season played out it was clear that a big athletic QB is great,,,,he can get those 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1's, dive over the goaline etc... and make plays to escape pressure. You don't see Rosen being able to do that. He will have to be a pocket passer and get much better. Mayfield has been awesome...his ball placement is mostly right on point. Darnold is good and will get better. Jackson has a solid team around him but he's been a huge spark and playing better than i thought he would. This seems like a really good 1st round QB class. Maybe the best one in years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I think it would be better to compare stats from the first game to the last game and use that a comparison of progress for the player. You can’t compare them to each other due to supporting casts. Baker has has some good stats but I think his very last play will become the norm for him as it’s hard for him to see over the line. If Allen continues to grow he might end up being the best of them all. He has more upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: They are late to update. Nfl.com is up to date immediately. Yes. The ones for allen are correct in my thread. I’ll update them this afternoon. I didn’t realize ESPN was late to the party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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