Happy Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 53 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: On the surface at least, it would’ve made sense to keep Haley who has a proven track record with Pittsburgh and was liked by Roethlisberger, for Mayfield’s development while axing Hue—but I’m sure more will be coming out in the next few days as to why both were let go instead of just 1. Or, it could just be because, well, Cleveland. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/relationship-between-ben-roethlisberger-todd-haley-showing-signs-of-friction-again/ Big Ben and Haley didn't always get along, there were points last season where they wouldn't even speak to one another. Haley seems like a difficult person to get along with, so it probably just isn't the Browns. http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/02/05/Le-Veon-Bell-Todd-Haley-Ben-Roethlisberger-steelers-super-bowl/stories/201802050097 "The more we learn about Haley’s relationship with Roethlisberger, though, the more irreconcilable it seemed. " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 So Greggo is last man standing. Who is running the offense? They making Tyrod OC, or just going to let Baker draw up plays in the dirt? Already hearing rumors of Cleveland going after Lincoln Riley after the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Leave it to the Browns to still find a way to outdo our suckiness? Edited October 29, 2018 by Buffalo Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/relationship-between-ben-roethlisberger-todd-haley-showing-signs-of-friction-again/ Big Ben and Haley didn't always get along, there were points last season where they wouldn't even speak to one another. Haley seems like a difficult person to get along with, so it probably just isn't the Browns. http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/02/05/Le-Veon-Bell-Todd-Haley-Ben-Roethlisberger-steelers-super-bowl/stories/201802050097 "The more we learn about Haley’s relationship with Roethlisberger, though, the more irreconcilable it seemed. " Players who play for Haley, hate Todd Haley. Remember Larry Johnson's tweet?: “My father played for the coach from “rememeber the titans. Our coach played golf. My father played for redskins briefley. Our coach. Nuthn. my father got more credentials than most of these pro coaches…..google my father!!!!!!!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Cleveland always finds a way to up the ante! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Leave it to the Browns to still find a way to outdo our suckiness? it's in the (lake erie) water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: With no skin in that team, it is at least entertaining to watch the carousel go 'round and 'round on that part of Lake Erie's shores...plus misery loves company they say! Man, I hate to say it, but it does indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 The Cleveland Browns: Does the phrase 'screw up a one car funeral' come to mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Who could have predicted this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Hue Jackson is running out of cards to play. The next shoe to drop will be him being fired at year's end, if he makes it that far. Cleveland needs a really thorough house cleaning, including GM. EDIT: Hue didn't make it that far! Edited October 29, 2018 by Fadingpain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Malazan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Just now, Fadingpain said: Hue Jackson is running out of cards to play. The next shoe to drop will be him being fired at year's end, if he makes it that far. Cleveland needs a really thorough house cleaning, including GM. Hue Jackson was already fired.. Edited October 29, 2018 by jeremy2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Now that's the organization I know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Rick Dennison might be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Hue Jackson was already fired.. I just came back here to edit my post, having caught on that he was fired as well! That is hilarious. I didn't think he had much time left, but I thought he had more than none! Edited October 29, 2018 by Fadingpain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, BmarvB said: Rick Dennison might be available? Nope happily employed in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Now that's the organization I know! Yeah but seriously, the entire top end of that organization needs to be replaced, including GM. So these are moves in the right direction. BTW: Hue Jackson's favorite pastime was reminding people he is the head coach. What is he going to do now!? He'll never be HC in this league again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/relationship-between-ben-roethlisberger-todd-haley-showing-signs-of-friction-again/ Big Ben and Haley didn't always get along, there were points last season where they wouldn't even speak to one another. Haley seems like a difficult person to get along with, so it probably just isn't the Browns. http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/02/05/Le-Veon-Bell-Todd-Haley-Ben-Roethlisberger-steelers-super-bowl/stories/201802050097 "The more we learn about Haley’s relationship with Roethlisberger, though, the more irreconcilable it seemed. " Point taken, thanks for clarifying that; you're right, definitely no bed of roses, and I should've been more careful with my word choices. I was going off of statements like this, where Big Ben expressed appreciation for Haley's play calling and disputed any interpersonal issues: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/12/11/5196608/steelers-ben-roethlisberger-todd-haley-comments-dolphins-nfl-week-14 And also the fact that his best production years occurred during Haley's tenure: Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV Career 207 205 139-65-1 4358 6790 64.2 53355 343 5.1 181 2.7 97 7.9 7.7 12.2 257.8 94.0 487 3210 6.89 6.71 6.7 30 40 171 2004 22 PIT QB 7 14 13 13-0-0 196 295 66.4 2621 17 5.8 11 3.7 58 8.9 8.4 13.4 187.2 98.1 30 213 7.41 6.93 9.2 4 5 11 2005 23 PIT QB 7 12 12 9-3-0 168 268 62.7 2385 17 6.3 9 3.4 85 8.9 8.7 14.2 198.8 98.6 23 129 7.75 7.53 7.9 2 2 11 2006 24 PIT QB 7 15 15 7-8-0 280 469 59.7 3513 18 3.8 23 4.9 67 7.5 6.1 12.5 234.2 75.4 55.5 46 280 6.28 4.97 8.9 2 3 11 2007* 25 PIT QB 7 15 15 10-5-0 264 404 65.3 3154 32 7.9 11 2.7 83 7.8 8.2 11.9 210.3 104.1 75.1 47 347 6.22 6.55 10.4 1 2 14 2008 26 PIT QB 7 16 16 12-4-0 281 469 59.9 3301 17 3.6 15 3.2 65 7.0 6.3 11.7 206.3 80.1 45.7 46 284 5.86 5.21 8.9 4 4 10 2009 27 PIT QB 7 15 15 9-6-0 337 506 66.6 4328 26 5.1 12 2.4 60 8.6 8.5 12.8 288.5 100.5 69.0 50 348 7.16 7.12 9.0 2 3 14 2010 28 PIT QB 7 12 12 9-3-0 240 389 61.7 3200 17 4.4 5 1.3 56 8.2 8.5 13.3 266.7 97.0 68.2 32 220 7.08 7.35 7.6 2 3 12 2011* 29 PIT QB 7 15 15 11-4-0 324 513 63.2 4077 21 4.1 14 2.7 95 7.9 7.5 12.6 271.8 90.1 65.0 40 269 6.89 6.51 7.2 1 1 12 2012 30 PIT QB 7 13 13 7-6-0 284 449 63.3 3265 26 5.8 8 1.8 82 7.3 7.6 11.5 251.2 97.0 71.3 30 182 6.44 6.77 6.3 2 3 10 2013 31 PIT QB 7 16 16 8-8-0 375 584 64.2 4261 28 4.8 14 2.4 67 7.3 7.2 11.4 266.3 92.0 58.1 42 282 6.36 6.24 6.7 1 3 13 2014* 32 PIT QB 7 16 16 11-5-0 408 608 67.1 4952 32 5.3 9 1.5 94 8.1 8.5 12.1 309.5 103.3 68.7 33 172 7.46 7.82 5.1 2 3 15 2015* 33 PIT QB 7 12 11 7-4-0 319 469 68.0 3938 21 4.5 16 3.4 69 8.4 7.8 12.3 328.2 94.5 71.1 20 141 7.76 7.15 4.1 1 1 12 2016* 34 PIT QB 7 14 14 10-4-0 328 509 64.4 3819 29 5.7 13 2.6 72 7.5 7.5 11.6 272.8 95.4 61.8 17 141 6.99 6.98 3.2 2 2 12 2017* 35 PIT QB 7 15 15 12-3-0 360 561 64.2 4251 28 5.0 14 2.5 97 7.6 7.5 11.8 283.4 93.4 66.3 21 139 7.07 6.95 3.6 3 4 14 2018 36 PIT QB 7 7 7 4-2-1 194 297 65.3 2290 14 4.7 7 2.4 75 7.7 7.6 11.8 327.1 94.5 71.6 10 63 7.25 7.14 3.3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Please tell me your kidding that Freddie "Kitchen Sink" Kitchens gets that job?! That-a-boy, KS! edit: @NoHuddleKelly12 thank you for catching that, NoHuddle! i truly have no idea who that guy is. Edited October 29, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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