John from Riverside Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, JM57 said: Says the league. Carlos Hyde is two years younger and he still only cost a 5th. Everyone knows after a certain age RB production is bound to fall off. That has an effect on value. Two totally different kinds of backs as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Our OL is not good....I know that an arguement can be made that they are improving but it sure would help our running game AND a rookie QB if this OL was better. It has to be a point of emphasis in the offseason.....and I dont understand why we are not playing Wyatt Teller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, JM57 said: Says the league. Carlos Hyde is two years younger and he still only cost a 5th. Everyone knows after a certain age RB production is bound to fall off. That has an effect on value. Shady>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Carlos Hyde. Hyde couldn't hold McCoy's jock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, H2o said: Shady>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Carlos Hyde. Hyde couldn't hold McCoy's jock Look Shady is a very good player. HOF career. But he's got a lot of factors working against him. Position. Age. Contract. His value is what it is. If he gets moved for a 3rd round pick it is because of a bidding war or the Eagles get desperate for a homecoming. That's just how it goes. RB is just not a hot commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, JM57 said: Look Shady is a very good player. HOF career. But he's got a lot of factors working against him. Position. Age. Contract. His value is what it is. If he gets moved for a 3rd round pick it is because of a bidding war or the Eagles get desperate for a homecoming. That's just how it goes. RB is just not a hot commodity. For a team in a division they can still easily win, who has a major hole at RB, and can have a guy who could easily get them 1200-1600 yards of productions with 10+ TD's over the next two seasons that he is under contract? That's worth a 3rd when you are just a year removed from riding a hot streak to a SB. It's not being desperate for a homecoming, it's trying to get back to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I’m thinking it’s a 2nd and a player (Clement) for McCoy and a 4th (or something like that). The Bills don’t just want “a” pick back. It has to be a day 2 pick at the latest. They want something to turn into a starter or they won’t make the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 If I had to publish a tweet to stay out there I would guess something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 If Shady gets moved. McDermott will lose the locker room, or what may be left of it. He will send a very clear message they have little interest in winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Our OL is not good....I know that an arguement can be made that they are improving but it sure would help our running game AND a rookie QB if this OL was better. It has to be a point of emphasis in the offseason.....and I dont understand why we are not playing Wyatt Teller yes look at Mills in this shot. He has let himself be taken out of the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Shady is really the only player on offense worth a toot. Like to watch Allen, he is developing though. Shady can be exciting to watch. you never see quit. He is like the Hughes of the Offense. Smart and strong effort , regardless of the defeating circumstances he is going against. If he went back to philly. i would be cool with it for his sake 16 minutes ago, iinii said: If Shady gets moved. McDermott will lose the locker room, or what may be left of it. He will send a very clear message they have little interest in winning. are they not already there ? EDIT Miller the guard is on the ground and failing to move another player. down is done. I guess i just expected to see 79.. Edited October 26, 2018 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: are they not already there ? It would seem that way to me. The whole thing is an elaborate charade. He has to make the faithful believe he still has clothes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’m thinking it’s a 2nd and a player (Clement) for McCoy and a 4th (or something like that). The Bills don’t just want “a” pick back. It has to be a day 2 pick at the latest. They want something to turn into a starter or they won’t make the deal. I'd sign up for that trade in a heartbeat. I'd probably be fine going into next season with Ivory, Clement, Murphy, and a R4 pick battling for 3 roster spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I'd sign up for that trade in a heartbeat. I'd probably be fine going into next season with Ivory, Clement, Murphy, and a R4 pick battling for 3 roster spots It feels reasonable right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It feels reasonable right? A trade of McCoy to Philly for Clement and a second would be a good deal for Buffalo. But I just don't see Philly giving up a second round pick for him. If the Bills were able to get a third and a player such as Clement or a developing player at another position I would take the deal. This is a deal that would serve each team's need and would also put McCoy in a good situation as his career winds down. Would this deal lose the locker room for McDermott? That is a legitimate risk. But the overriding issue is that this deal would in the not too distant future (next year) put us in a better situation. There is already a risk of losing the room because with McCoy or without him this season is going to be a tough year. When you take on a strategy of going full throttle with a rebuild you are inevitably going to take some immediate lumps. Adding to next year's our full complement of picks and with a large cap amount to work with the Bills should be in a good position to infuse this roster with more talent. As it stands with McCoy or without we will be in the same tough situation this year. This type of deal would be the right thing to do for the Bills and McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Eagles just lost their d end to injury so let’s trade shady and Hughes for a first but we have to take back salary as I’m sure the cap won’t work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: Eagles just lost their d end to injury so let’s trade shady and Hughes for a first but we have to take back salary as I’m sure the cap won’t work Barnett? Even though a first rounder he was just playing in a rotation. McD’s wet dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 9:54 AM, Iamkrgr said: Hopefully McCoy comes back this week and plays well. Would be nice to get him a chance at a Superbowl. We'd at least get something for a RB we really have no use for this season. There is going to be another season next year and we're going to need a good RB. Also, do we really need to create a new hole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 McCoy would be a good fit for the Ravens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I don't think you lose the locker room when you're 2-5 and soon to be 2-6. Players understand that a lost season means you make every move you can and build for the future. I don't know what Philly is thinking right now. Ajayi is a free agent after this season so trading for McCoy for the rest of this year and having him next year makes sense. I think a deal gets done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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