dpberr Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Crossed my mind reading about the US Marshals operation in Michigan yesterday that found 123 missing children in a single day. They were looking for over 300. I realize children go missing for many reasons but the fact that they were looking for 300 unaccounted for children in one county alone is alarming. I'd think a single missing child is a big deal. Would you support parents having the option of implanting a GPS tracker into their children? The tracker could only be turned on by law enforcement and upon turning 18, the child could have it removed, no questions asked. Would even such an idea work to cut down on human trafficking in the United States? Thoughts? You're clearly trading off freedom for security with the concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Traffickers would know about them and just cut them out, I would think. That's just as a practical measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Reminder: create Faraday cage around basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Ah, no. I'm not about that. I mean it's just such an Orwellian thought that I just don't even no where to begin on why no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 No, for the reason Levi mentioned. It is not going to stop the traffickers. I also have privacy issues with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, dpberr said: Crossed my mind reading about the US Marshals operation in Michigan yesterday that found 123 missing children in a single day. They were looking for over 300. I realize children go missing for many reasons but the fact that they were looking for 300 unaccounted for children in one county alone is alarming. I'd think a single missing child is a big deal. Would you support parents having the option of implanting a GPS tracker into their children? The tracker could only be turned on by law enforcement and upon turning 18, the child could have it removed, no questions asked. Would even such an idea work to cut down on human trafficking in the United States? Thoughts? You're clearly trading off freedom for security with the concept. No. Massive privacy concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Fwiw you can get a watch for $7/mos that can call or receive calls from up to so many pre approved numbers, also receive text, and shows location of the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) I am against this. However, our care team has care-planned some of our at-home elderly dementia participants with GPS necklaces. But it is rare and only with the caregivers permission. . Edited October 10, 2018 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, B-Man said: I am against this. However, our care team has care-planned some of our at-home elderly dementia participants with GPS necklaces. But it is rare and only with the caregivers permission. . Have you had to use them? How'd they work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 There was a pretty good Black Mirror about this idea but with more to it. For me the bottom line is that power shouldn't be centralized. Giving the government this type of power just has to be a bad idea. With that said, it sure would be nice if parents had a way to find their children if God forbid something like that happened. Some genius might be able to design something someday. An on/off switch controlled by the parent that can be trusted and secure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, dpberr said: Have you had to use them? How'd they work? Thankfully no. Though they are "at risk" people, all of our family caregivers are doing a good job. At some point, it will come into play I am sure. and for those "free healthcare" simpletons.................why don't we have one on every participant ?............prohibitive cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, dpberr said: Crossed my mind reading about the US Marshals operation in Michigan yesterday that found 123 missing children in a single day. They were looking for over 300. I realize children go missing for many reasons but the fact that they were looking for 300 unaccounted for children in one county alone is alarming. I'd think a single missing child is a big deal. Would you support parents having the option of implanting a GPS tracker into their children? The tracker could only be turned on by law enforcement and upon turning 18, the child could have it removed, no questions asked. Would even such an idea work to cut down on human trafficking in the United States? Thoughts? You're clearly trading off freedom for security with the concept. I think they call it an iPhone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Lets tag all the Progs so we can keep an eye on them.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 hours ago, dpberr said: Crossed my mind reading about the US Marshals operation in Michigan yesterday that found 123 missing children in a single day. They were looking for over 300. I realize children go missing for many reasons but the fact that they were looking for 300 unaccounted for children in one county alone is alarming. I'd think a single missing child is a big deal. Would you support parents having the option of implanting a GPS tracker into their children? The tracker could only be turned on by law enforcement and upon turning 18, the child could have it removed, no questions asked. Would even such an idea work to cut down on human trafficking in the United States? Thoughts? You're clearly trading off freedom for security with the concept. Welllllll we chip dogs to catch the escapees ... No, absolutely not. The privacy concerns for the child + family outweigh any possible good. That, and as mentioned above, the traffickers would either cut them out of the child's body or quickly find a way to neutralize the chips, regardless of whether or not the child was hurt (they are human traffickers, after all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Welllllll we chip dogs to catch the escapees ... No, absolutely not. The privacy concerns for the child + family outweigh any possible good. That, and as mentioned above, the traffickers would either cut them out of the child's body or quickly find a way to neutralize the chips, regardless of whether or not the child was hurt (they are human traffickers, after all). If I were a trafficker, I'd be hacking the database the chips are registered with, to change the data and establish a false trail of identity and custody for the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 hours ago, dpberr said: Crossed my mind reading about the US Marshals operation in Michigan yesterday that found 123 missing children in a single day. They were looking for over 300. I realize children go missing for many reasons but the fact that they were looking for 300 unaccounted for children in one county alone is alarming. I'd think a single missing child is a big deal. Would you support parents having the option of implanting a GPS tracker into their children? The tracker could only be turned on by law enforcement and upon turning 18, the child could have it removed, no questions asked. Would even such an idea work to cut down on human trafficking in the United States? Thoughts? You're clearly trading off freedom for security with the concept. I don't know but I sure as heck hope there is a hell so such scum (human trafficker) wind up in the lowest depths once there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Wacka said: Lets tag all the Progs so we can keep an eye on them.? We could write a companion app, TantrumTrackr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Are we talking about tracking kids who entered this country illegally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 53 minutes ago, DC Tom said: If I were a trafficker, I'd be hacking the database the chips are registered with, to change the data and establish a false trail of identity and custody for the kid. Or even hacking in and using it to locate children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 hours ago, dpberr said: Would you support parents having the option of implanting a GPS tracker into their children? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 13 hours ago, keepthefaith said: Are we talking about tracking kids who entered this country illegally? Not entirely sure on that. Based on the news articles about that operation in Michigan, it appears all the children were residents of that area that were declared "missing" by somebody who cared about them enough to call the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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