******* Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 According to Next Gen stats, NOBODY in the NFL has had MORE 'TIME TO THROW' than Josh Allen 1
BringBackFergy Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 I gotta call bull **** on these stats (or at least how they’re computed). Nonsense 8 2
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) I need to see the numbers. I’m not buying it. Do they keep the clock running while he is running for his life? Edited October 2, 2018 by buffaloboyinATL 2
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Here's an answer why we suck. Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Buffalo Bills (62 percent owned) This is the most predictable stat of the season: Among all receivers with at least 20 passing looks, Kelvin Benjamin is dead last (159th-of-159) in yards of separation at the catch point, per Next Gen Stats. Last year, Benjamin was also dead last in yards of separation among receivers (129th-of-129). A black hole for passing production at this point, Benjamin has caught just 7 of his 21 targets -- 10 of which have been "catchable" (per PFF). 3
GG Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:32 AM, ******* said: According to Next Gen stats, NOBODY in the NFL has had MORE 'TIME TO THROW' than Josh Allen Expand Is that time in the pocket or total time when he’s running like a headless chicken and heaves up a prayer? 6
billspro Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 We have a terrible oline, they need to redo their analysis if that is the answer they found. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:43 AM, GG said: Is that time in the pocket or total time when he’s running like a headless chicken and heaves up a prayer? Expand The latter. Time from snap until throw/sack/scramble past LOS. Same true of TT last year. 4
GG Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:45 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: The latter. Time from snap until throw/sack/scramble past LOS. Same true of TT last year. Expand Kind of a meaningless stat then 6 4
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:47 AM, GG said: Kind of a meaningless stat then Expand Yes, for a mobile QB. That said, there are plays on film where Allen has guys open and there is a pocket/protection, but he isn't seeing them/pulling the trigger. 1
JoPar_v2 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:47 AM, GG said: Kind of a meaningless stat then Expand Yes. A better stat would measure something like “time to release or pocket collapse.” Obviously not all plays would qualify - designed rollouts/bootlegs wouldn’t really count, but I think overall it would paint a better picture.
HerdMenatlity1 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:32 AM, ******* said: According to Next Gen stats, NOBODY in the NFL has had MORE 'TIME TO THROW' than Josh Allen Expand Hey, where's the guy that always replies to one or these with "link or it doesn't exist"?
Bobby Hooks Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) I’m surprised they’d even let this stat get out. This is the kind of thing that completely ruins your credibility. This is garbage data and anyone watching Allen behind that line knows they need to look at what they’re actually collecting. Next gen, hope not? Edited October 2, 2018 by Bobby Hooks
Royale with Cheese Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 It’s counting snap to the time he throws it. So when a LB comes untouched and he’s running for his life...you can’t say he had 4 seconds to throw the ball. These stats don’t take in any context. 5
K-9 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Garbage indeed. And an insult to every serious fan out there. I can’t believe anyone consumes this crap.
Augie Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:34 AM, BringBackFergy said: I gotta call bull **** on these stats (or at least how they’re computed). Nonsense Expand If the clock continues while he’s turning, and running for his life.....maybe? No, there is no discounting how bad this blocking is. Even Josh admits he should be quicker to get the ball out, but we need to build the OLine. And find the best coach money can buy. 1
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Just another example of "stats not telling the whole story"
Cruiserplayer Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Our problem is the receivers getting separation. When you hear its taking too much time for the play to develop it means ... 1
BringBackFergy Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:58 AM, Augie said: If the clock continues while he’s turning, and running for his life.....maybe? No, there is no discounting how bad this blocking is. Even Josh admits he should be quicker to get the ball out, but we need to build the OLine. And find the best coach money can buy. Expand Online coach or head coach?
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