RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 44 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: How about Landry Jones? Steelers cut him before the season started. He seemed to be a decent backup. I like this idea. He looked decent in Ben's absence, and can likely share some of what Ben does with Allen--who has similar QB traits to Ben (big , pocket mobile, strong arm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 45 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Isn't EJ still out there? (/snicker) ...Cardale is lookin' for work too............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Ok I guess I could get on board with a two year contract for a Moore, I personally think it is useless and doesn't help one iota, but that could also be my bias on having a "grizzly mentor vet" in the room is WAY overblown, and is just your standard always happen but no one can really articulate the benefits as to why. Much like the running on first down thing. Just old thinking. I think it's silly to say that having a veteran QB on the roster is useless when you go back in history and hear many star QBs say they were helped early on by the grizzled vets. There are many flavors of these vets, from the guys who are willing to help out the rookie to Uncle Ricos who still have dreams of stardom. In your example, Uncle Rico is clearly not needed. But if Moore or Anderson are the kind to help out the younger and more talented starters, then they should absolutely be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Colin Kaepernick Has plenty of experience, been to the Super Bowl and has an uncanny talent for bringing people together. And I am not suggesting this simply because I love reading arguments between people over who are the real Americans, those who despise Kaepernick or those who admire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 well were going to need a #2 qb beyond this season as well. Matt Moore seems a decent option. No young players, you need a guy that can prepare with minimal snaps during the week and can offer some guidance on the sideline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I would bring in a veteran, cut Peterman & re-sign him to the practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GG said: I think it's silly to say that having a veteran QB on the roster is useless when you go back in history and hear many star QBs say they were helped early on by the grizzled vets. There are many flavors of these vets, from the guys who are willing to help out the rookie to Uncle Ricos who still have dreams of stardom. In your example, Uncle Rico is clearly not needed. But if Moore or Anderson are the kind to help out the younger and more talented starters, then they should absolutely be considered. What does a Vet in the room Bring that a QB coach doesn't? If you need a VET to coach the rookie in the Room then MAYBE you should look at replacing your QB coach. Sorry with 9.1M in space this season that would rollover the ONLY positions I am addressing are OL, WR So lets sign some OL and WRs and then IF there is enough room for a BU QB fine, but until that sign in the Positions that will help Allen ON THE FIELD Edited September 12, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 45 minutes ago, JM57 said: I know of a certain veteran QB whose best attribute is his mobility. Not sure our fanbase could handle it though. We don't need another circus show here. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What does a Vet in the room Bring that a QB coach doesn't? If you need a VET to coach the rookie in the Room then MAYBE you should look at replacing your QB coach. Sorry with 9.1M in space this season that would rollover the ONLY positions I am addressing are OL, WR So lets sign some OL and WRs and then IF there is enough room for a BU QB fine, but until that sign in the Positions that will help Allen ON THE FIELD When they show sideline screenshots of the QBs, are the QBs always standing and discussing plays with a coach or each other? I see a QB coach helping out in practice on technicals. I see a grizzled QB helping out during the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 56 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: How about Landry Jones? Steelers cut him before the season started. He seemed to be a decent backup. Of all the QB's out there Landry Jones makes the most sense. Whoever they take they should have done it this week. If Peterson is still practice squad eligible. Pretty sure he would clear waivers. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: EJ is not a bad backup. Gruden is terrible at evaluating qbs. EJ was better this preseason than AJ. I do agree with this. I only think it will be Moore or Anderson due to some familiarity with our staff. And Lynch is my front runner for the sole purpose of the fact they already checked in on him previously. But, on a list as bad as this, EJ actually isnt the worst choice. And yes, I couldn't understand why Gruden cut EJ then traded a 5th for AJM who had a worse preseason and doesn't know the offense, didn't really make a lot of sense. Who knows, maybe he thinks AJM has more potential and wanted someone he sees more upside in just in case Carr still sucks lol Edited September 12, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just now, GG said: When they show sideline screenshots of the QBs, are the QBs always standing and discussing plays with a coach or each other? I see a QB coach helping out in practice on technicals. I see a grizzled QB helping out during the games. With the OC, you know the coach. Who do you think Mahommes listens to his Coaches or Chad Henne? Trubisky - really a ton of help from Bray and Daniel? Watson last year - yep he needed Osweiller This is my point No one can point to specific proof that a VET helps a young QB just the hand waiving coach speak and old thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kirby Jackson Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: That could be said about a lot of positions on this team though so a BU QB to me is the furthest on the list. How about two Starting OGs, but yet they will keep trotting Ducasse on the field, what message does that send to the Vets? Heck when the OWN HC cannot even learn from his continued game days mistakes. There are a lot of other things I think would improve this team well before who the BU QB is. Name me ONE QB he developed? And we are so worried about a guy that is all goes right the rest of the season (no injury) will never see the field again what about OG? WR? CB? don't you think we should use our LIMITED cap space (9.1M) this year to work on positions that actually matter on a weekly basis??? I don’t disagree (at all). Just because there are lots of holes though doesn’t mean you shouldn’t fix some. I’d love to see other moves as well. I’m all for playing younger guys as well and seeing if you find a player or 2. As an example, I’d much rather watch Teller than Ducasse or McCloud than Kerley. I’ll take my chances that those guys MIGHT develop over a guy with a long resume of mediocrity (or worse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The backup will remain Peterman, What is the point again of signing a THIRD QB? Because when Allen gets hurt behind the current OL then Peterman migjt not be the next man up. And they’ll need to sign another QB at that point anyway if it’s just Peterman left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mickey said: Colin Kaepernick Has plenty of experience, been to the Super Bowl and has an uncanny talent for bringing people together. And I am not suggesting this simply because I love reading arguments between people over who are the real Americans, those who despise Kaepernick or those who admire him. Political biew aside, the bigger issue is he’s not a good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Best thing to do for us is let Peterman and Allen ride it out, you bring in a shiny new vet and all of a sudden anytime Allen struggles you're gonna have a sizable group of fans calling for him to be benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mickey said: Colin Kaepernick Has plenty of experience, been to the Super Bowl and has an uncanny talent for bringing people together. And I am not suggesting this simply because I love reading arguments between people over who are the real Americans, those who despise Kaepernick or those who admire him. Kap in the unlikely event ever plays in the NFL again wants to be a starter. Dan Patrick drove that home this AM. fwiw. He's not interested as a stop gap vet. Plus if he wins his lawsuit against the NFL. His settlement might dwarf any team contract. He's done. Finally he hates Buffalo and said as much the last time he played at the "Ralph" he complained about getting treated the worst in Buffalo during his kneel down tour. Edited September 12, 2018 by Best Player Available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t disagree (at all). Just because there are lots of holes though doesn’t mean you shouldn’t fix some. I’d love to see other moves as well. I’m all for playing younger guys as well and seeing if you find a player or 2. As an example, I’d much rather watch Teller than Ducasse or McCloud than Kerley. I’ll take my chances that those guys MIGHT develop over a guy with a long resume of mediocrity (or worse). All this year has done to this point is reinforce my serious doubts about McD. I don't like how this team is being built to be honest and everyone tells me wait to next year wait to next year, almost 100M in cap space and picks, well I don't want to see that space going to some maybe short term gains, maybe it is because I have accepted really how bad this team is this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Kaepernick is not the obvious choice. Why would anybody even think that?!? BecUse he went to a SB and is better than any other QBs on the market. People are talking about crappy Landry Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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