foreboding Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) When I watch McD, I feel like he knows what he has (he values coach-ability over raw ability) and he seems cool with it. The guy took average talent last year and made it work. Great coaches make great teams, they get the most from their players and ideally get a few stars sprinkled in to make the team a few games above average and give themselves a chance. BB has been doing it for two decades, I think Sean thinks he can do the same. One could argue we have a huge OC upgrade, which will help. We do not have a Brady, but we don't need to win 13 games either. 9 or 10 would be nice... Let's hope so. Edited September 7, 2018 by foreboding 8 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Like McD as a coach but I think it’s a bit optimistic to think the bills will get 9 or 10 wins with this roster. Hopefully they prove me wrong just like last year. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, foreboding said: When I watch McD, I feel like he knows what he has (he values coach-ability over raw ability) and he seems cool with it. The guy took average talent last year and made it work. Great coaches make great teams, they get the most from their players and ideally get a few stars sprinkled in to make the team a few games above average and give themselves a chance. BB has been doing it for two decades, I think Sean thinks he can do the same. One could argue we have a huge OC upgrade, which will help. We do not have a Brady, but we don't need to win 13 games either. 9 or 10 would be nice... Let's hope so. More importantly for this season, win conference games to gain advantage in tie breaker scenarios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Because he knows they will take a step back. Planned that way and even tried to tell everyone as much at the end of last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Great Quarterbacks make great coaches, and teams. If Allen or Peterman turns out to be great, McDermott will look like a genius. If neither does, then he will be a defensive coordinator sometime between 2021 and 2022. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYear'sTheOne Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Like McD as a coach but I think it’s a bit optimistic to think the bills will get 9 or 10 wins with this roster. Hopefully they prove me wrong just like last year. Last year the talk was of a tank. This year we're a no win, or bottom 3 team. It's easy to look from the outside in and guess a record. I think this team will surprise us again and as OP stated it comes down to the coaching. The heart that this team has. The comradry. Guys playing for each other and not for themselves. Now I'm not saying we will make the playoffs (I'm sure as hell hoping). But I don't think 8-9 wins is a long shot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo-Bah Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Like McD as a coach but I think it’s a bit optimistic to think the bills will get 9 or 10 wins with this roster. Hopefully they prove me wrong just like last year. And their schedule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 A team that plays as a team with a great leader often can beat the collection of talented players out for themselves and their stat lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumaro02 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I think McD does a great job of keeping his team on a steady course. I think however he is clueless as a QB Guru. He was asked repeatedly what informs his decisions regarding Josh Alllen and he had to keep coming back to his experiences 19 years ago with McNabb when Andy Reid didn't cut him loose until later in the season. He does not even want to talk about Cam Newton who started Day 1 and seems to have no thoughts beyond that. He is a sophomore Defensive HC whose defense under performed all year. He did make the playoffs however and his coaching was a big factor in breaking the drought. This year he said there would be an open competition for starting QB and then gave only 2 QBs reps with the 1s. vs 1s for the majority of the off season. He kept Allen with the 3s until Week 3 of preseason. WHY? His "this is a rep chart not a depth chart" when explaining that Allen would learn the offense just as good with the 3s is hilarious. So McD is saying that the speed of the game is the same going against the 3s as going against the 1s all off season except for a smattering later? Yet the proclaimed starter and the one traded got hundreds of more reps than Allen. WHY? I wonder where we would be right now if Allen and AJ got most of the 1s reps vs 1s and Nate got only 3s work. I wonder if Nate would be so steady going against the 1s vs Bangals. McD decided very early that he was going to really slow play Allen which IMO was very unfair. He had all kinds of excuses for that. In the beginning he used the excuse that Nate and AJ had a few weeks jump on the playbook. OK. but Allen scored the highest on the Wonderlic Test of QBs at the Combine. So why after a month off after OTAs was he still working solely with the 3s? Allen had Week 3 prep with the 1s but the few days of practices is not sufficient to prepare a rookie #7 pick for the Bengals D. McD did everything he could to make it difficult for Allen including musical O linemen chairs and not helping him keep drives alive by not challenging the dive for a 1st down. Yes, McD deserves kudos for the teams performance last year and I hope he does well this year, but he did NO favors for Allen. IMO he disrespected him from Day 1. He talked about earning reps and made Allen do that all off-season while handing the MLB the job from Day 1. He has repeatedly favored a certain QB and ended up trading away all the reps of the other QB to Oakland that Allen needed. No. He is no friend to Allen and I think Allen knows it. He seems quite angry judging by his comments after being told McDs "piece" and after Beanes sit down with Heather Prusak. I hope we go undefeated with Nate as QB and I wish him well but Allen has every right to be stewing with the way his HC has treated him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 hour ago, foreboding said: When I watch McD, I feel like he knows what he has (he values coach-ability over raw ability) and he seems cool with it. The guy took average talent last year and made it work. Great coaches make great teams, they get the most from their players and ideally get a few stars sprinkled in to make the team a few games above average and give themselves a chance. BB has been doing it for two decades, I think Sean thinks he can do the same. One could argue we have a huge OC upgrade, which will help. We do not have a Brady, but we don't need to win 13 games either. 9 or 10 would be nice... Let's hope so. I'm not so sure I'm a optimistic as you about the win total but I think under the tutelage of McD and co., we will be better than what the prognosticators out there think. McD just brings a certain calm confidence that the team seams to embody. Hopefully it continues to translate on the field. Certainly a 180 from the previous regime...we would be seeing commercials about dueling pianos or something like that if they were still around (tandem bike commercial). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 42 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said: And their schedule. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 The QB situation is what it is. It boiled down to either Peterman or McCarron with Allen sitting and learning (unless Allen was lights out fantastic from the get go). As far as a coach, I think McD is a great manager/motivator of people. He has a vision of a unified group working toward a common goal - the process - and he's gotten the leaders of the team to buy in. He nurtures a family type atmosphere. That culture can't be underestimated when it comes to a long term plan. From that perspective i love what he is doing. What i worry about and want to see from him this season is a step forward in game day decision making and management. Clock management, punting/going for it in certain situations on the opponents side of the 50, when/when not to throw the challenge flag, etc... We'll see if that improves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdue Bill Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I think that McD is a great improvement over the Ryan circus. If he is the man/coach that I think he is, you will start to see the results towards the end of this season. Think back to the Marv Levy days...it took a few years for the team to jell and for them to buy in to his philosophy. I can see that happening with McD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Because he knows they will take a step back. Planned that way and even tried to tell everyone as much at the end of last season. When was the time McDermott told everyone the Bills were going to take a step back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 hour ago, foreboding said: When I watch McD, I feel like he knows what he has (he values coach-ability over raw ability) and he seems cool with it. The guy took average talent last year and made it work. Great coaches make great teams, they get the most from their players and ideally get a few stars sprinkled in to make the team a few games above average and give themselves a chance. BB has been doing it for two decades, I think Sean thinks he can do the same. One could argue we have a huge OC upgrade, which will help. We do not have a Brady, but we don't need to win 13 games either. 9 or 10 would be nice... Let's hope so. I like your post, and agree with pretty much all points you bring up, with the exception of us having a huge upgrade at OC. Dennison, IMO, was downright terrible, archaic, nauseatingly predictable and un-imaginative as an offensive coordinator. However, I'm still not sure what we have in Daboll. I dont really know what he did in his previous stints as Offensive coordinator with the Browns, Dolphins and Chiefs, but I'm guessing if he had been truly successful, he might've lasted longer than a year with each club? Dont get me wrong I've heard some good things about his innovative approaches, and his success at Alabama despite being hamstrung by mediocre QB play, (wouldn't mind getting SkyDiver's opinion on how he was viewed at Bama) but I will respectfully wait a few games or so until I declare him a huge upgrade over Dennison....but here's to hoping you are right...and sadly, it wont take much to officially declare him an upgrade over Dennison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Here't the thing. The Bills have a lot of guys nobody has ever heard of before so the national media predicts them to be terrible, which could happen. That said, there are likely guys on this team who we don't see as long term solutions that will probably surprise people this year and become solid players. How big of a perceived hole did we have at RB when we only had Fred Jackson? We actually didn't but nobody knew how good he was. We might be bad this year but if a couple of guys emerge into solid players that can handle a bigger role, it won't be that bad and it is something that happens for perceived bad teams every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Because he knows they will take a step back. Planned that way and even tried to tell everyone as much at the end of last season. Agreed 100%. They jettisoned high salaried players to fix the cap for next year. They know that is going to be painful this season, but it needed to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 hours ago, billsfan11 said: Like McD as a coach but I think it’s a bit optimistic to think the bills will get 9 or 10 wins with this roster. Hopefully they prove me wrong just like last year. They are not winning 9+ with this OL. Next year I expect a big upgrade on both lines. And next year I will expect 10 wins and the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Here't the thing. The Bills have a lot of guys nobody has ever heard of before so the national media predicts them to be terrible +1 If they play in Buffalo, the media hasn't heard of them. If the media hasn't heard of them, they suck. And around and around it goes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I just wonder if all this love for McDermott is because he's the antithesis of Rex. It's too early to judge whether he'll be a successful head coach or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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