The Legalization of Weed

[COTC]

15 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I know the difference in the effects of sativa vs indica.  My question was how do you know you’ve purchased a sativa or indica?  You can read the tasting notes and see if the bud you’ve purchased is tastes and smells like the notes but those are often subjective like tasting notes for wine. 

Regulations and testing requires to have accurate labels. Terpenoids test, specifically, to reveal indica sativa or hybrid. If you are buying it legally, the label will be accurate. 

 

Other than that, only way to know is test it, aka ingesting it.  

 

Or if you see the full plant or a picture, size of fan leaves reveal indica (fat leaves touching) sativa (thin long leaves)

Edited August 29, 2018 by COTC

[frostbitmic]

I have peripheral Neuropathy in my feet ... I've been using hemp oil pills for about a year and recently started taking CBD gummies ... Those two combined work better for me than the Gabapentin my doctor has me on.

 

Ill take natural things over pharmaceuticals any day and big pharma is afraid of that for a reason.

[The Poojer]

I'm interested in hearing how this helped you.  My Dad has Peripheral Neuropathy among other things, I don't think NYS has legalized it yet so it wouldn't be much good to him, but curious as to what worked in your case.  Thanks.

 

 

 

38 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

I have peripheral Neuropathy in my feet ... I've been using hemp oil pills for about a year and recently started taking CBD gummies ... Those two combined work better for me than the Gabapentin my doctor has me on.

 

Ill take natural things over pharmaceuticals any day and big pharma is afraid of that for a reason.

[teef]

2 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

I have peripheral Neuropathy in my feet ... I've been using hemp oil pills for about a year and recently started taking CBD gummies ... Those two combined work better for me than the Gabapentin my doctor has me on.

 

Ill take natural things over pharmaceuticals any day and big pharma is afraid of that for a reason.

this is good to hear.  my father in law has restless leg syndrome badly.  keep his awake, causes him to have to move around excessively, etc.  we drove to meet my in laws for dinner recently, and we found him wandering around in the parking lot because of it.  i suggested he try it, but was nervous that smoking would make him want to smoke cigarettes again.  maybe the gummies would work for him.  interesting.

[dpberr]

2 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

I have peripheral Neuropathy in my feet ... I've been using hemp oil pills for about a year and recently started taking CBD gummies ... Those two combined work better for me than the Gabapentin my doctor has me on.

 

Ill take natural things over pharmaceuticals any day and big pharma is afraid of that for a reason.

 

As an aside, is your doctor prescribing anything but gabapentin for that neuropathy?  In my experience, the doctors who immediately reach for that are the laziest around.  It does nothing to treat the condition, only masks it.  

[GoBills808]

22 minutes ago, teef said:

this is good to hear.  my father in law has restless leg syndrome badly.  keep his awake, causes him to have to move around excessively, etc.  we drove to meet my in laws for dinner recently, and we found him wandering around in the parking lot because of it.  i suggested he try it, but was nervous that smoking would make him want to smoke cigarettes again.  maybe the gummies would work for him.  interesting.

Smoking, vaporizing, any inhalation of cannabis products is IMO reckless and medically dubious to prescribe. Ingestion (edibles) of CBD1/2 is a much better option.

 

As far as restless leg syndrome and the guys above prescribed gabapentin: taking into account a poorly understood mode of action with a lot of these synthetic neurotransmitters (acknowledged medically, to boot), and only a slightly less understood relationship between delta-9 THC and its derivatives (CBD1 and 2, primarily)...I would make an reasonably educated guess that the vast majority of people taking similar anti-convulsant/epileptic drugs would benefit from prescription cannabis edibles. 

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/850145

 

Link is an abstract of a study of cannabis derivatives used in conjunction w/ prescription antiepileptics. Conclusion of the study (it's available for purchase online) is that the CBDs tend to enhance efficacy, now what would have been of much more use to the public (and not necessarily the pharmaceutical industry, so go figure) would have been two more studies (one control and one done with cannabis in isolation) but I'm not aware of a such an experiment. 

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

21 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

$40 lasts me 6 months.  Seriously.  And $40 gone in a bar in 3-4 hours??  Lightweight.  

That’s why

 

I smoke more than drink. 

[frostbitmic]

5 hours ago, The Poojer said:

I'm interested in hearing how this helped you.  My Dad has Peripheral Neuropathy among other things, I don't think NYS has legalized it yet so it wouldn't be much good to him, but curious as to what worked in your case.  Thanks.

 

 

 

My Neuropathy either makes my feet totally numb or makes them hurt like hell ... Taking the hemp oil pills has made the numbness and pain less intense ... Since I started doing the CBD gummies, my feet feel  better than they did with just the oil.

 

What gets a lot of peoples panties in a wad is that it is a product of weed ... What gets you high with weed is THC ... In CBD and hemp oil, there is no THC, it's just CBD which is medicinal.

 

CBD oil is legal in I believe 49 states and it does not get you high. I pay about $4 a day for the stuff which you can get in any smoke shop here in NY... Rochester in my case.

[Augie]

I thought I might have unknowingly ingested an edible, but that’s really what Serena Williams is wearing tonight. The wife has confirmed.

 

I’m serious, if you need a chuckle, put on ESPN for a few seconds. US Open fashion show it is not. 

Edited August 30, 2018 by Augie

[The Poojer]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

I thought I might have unknowingly ingested an edible, but that’s really what Serena Williams is wearing tonight. The wife has confirmed.

 

I’m serious, if you need a chuckle, put on ESPN for a few seconds. US Open fashion show it is not. 

 

I assume you are referring to the tutu?  She did it in response to the French open officials telling her she couldn't wear her leopard print body suit, which was designed to aid in blood circulation.  They told her she needed to respect the game, aka act more lady-like.

[SinceThe70s]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

I thought I might have unknowingly ingested an edible, but that’s really what Serena Williams is wearing tonight. The wife has confirmed.

 

I’m serious, if you need a chuckle, put on ESPN for a few seconds. US Open fashion show it is not. 

 

Is the chuckle I need an edible?

 

Augie - this is not a laughing matter - no wait, it is, everything seems funny right now- wait, what were we talking about? We should get some pop tarts - better yet, more chuckles!

[Augie]

7 minutes ago, The Poojer said:

 

I assume you are referring to the tutu?  She did it in response to the French open officials telling her she couldn't wear her leopard print body suit, which was designed to aid in blood circulation.  They told her she needed to respect the game, aka act more lady-like.

 

Yeah, she can wear the “blood circulation“ body suit under something less....or more....something! As Jim Rome once said, after the report that the Williams sisters would spend more time on fashion and less on tennis: “well, that has to be good news for strippers and hookers everywhere!” 

 

The tutu thing may have scared away young girls from ballet. Or even the circus. Clowns may trigger PTSD. It was that BAD. 

[The Poojer]

As far as I am concerned the Williams sisters can dress however they want, they have been so dominant for so many years.  If they were all show and not backing it up, that would be one thing, but they walk the walk, and talk the talk. As much as Tiger Woods transformed the sport of Golf, the Williams sisters took that to several layers higher in the sport of tennis.

 

9 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Yeah, she can wear the “blood circulation“ body suit under something less....or more....something! As Jim Rome once said, after the report that the Williams sisters would spend more time on fashion and less on tennis: “well, that has to be good news for strippers and hookers everywhere!” 

 

The tutu thing may have scared away young girls from ballet. Or even the circus. Clowns may trigger PTSD. It was that BAD. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

24 minutes ago, The Poojer said:

tennis.

 

 

best naptime sport ever.

 

[BillsFan4]

20 hours ago, The Poojer said:

I'm interested in hearing how this helped you.  My Dad has Peripheral Neuropathy among other things, I don't think NYS has legalized it yet so it wouldn't be much good to him, but curious as to what worked in your case.  Thanks.

 

 

 

As far as I am aware CBD is legal in all 50 states. I know it can be purchased legally here in NY (without any medical card. They even sell it at a lot of gas stations now, but I have my doubts that it’s a quality product) 

I have a friend who recently opened a CBD business in NY state. He grows/produces all his own CBD. His products get rave reviews from his customers. He also sells other natural items for pain (etc). It’s an online business, but he has his warehouse right here in NY. 

And I know there is a CBD specialty shop here in Buffalo that I believe is open to the general public. Never been there myself, but I recently saw an ad for it on Facebook. 

 

You can also order it off the internet. But you have to do your research. There are a lot of companies that are less than honest and sell products that do not have the amount of CBD listed on the label, or buy their CBD isolate (or hemp) in bulk form China.

 

Feel free to PM me if you’d like any info. 

Edited August 30, 2018 by BillsFan4

[BillsFan4]

On 8/27/2018 at 8:41 PM, billsfan89 said:

 

CBD oil has only been proven to help childhood epilepsy, the other benefits people espouse aren't nearly as proven (Which is to say that they aren't proven.) I would wait until they do more studies on the other impacts before using it myself. 

 

I have a close friend who has a very severe seizure disorder. He has grand mal seizures (the most severe kind) on a daily, and sometimes hourly basis. He can’t drive, or even work. 

He will be walking and just suddenly started seizing and fall over. He’s caused himself some very serious injuries - falling down stairs. Falling head first onto the concrete. Falling into objects (once he fell and hit his eye directly on the corner of a table. His eye was luckily ok, but looked beyond horrible). 

 

He he has been on a ridiculous amount of medications to try and curb these seizures. 

Some medicines will help him reduce the number of seizures for a short while, but usually stop working pretty quickly. Most of the time, none of the meds have really done him much good, and none have come even close to stopping the seizure. 

The side effects are not good, either. They make him into a “space cadet”, or cause him to have numerous strange side effects. 

 

 

Well, he started to use CBD about 6 months ago and has only had a few seizures in that 6 month time span. It’s been absolutely amazing for him. To go from having multiple seizures a week (if not even more), to now only having a few over the course of a 1/2 year is unbelieveable. Even better is that he says there are no negative side effects whatsoever form the CBD. 

[Bob in Mich]

19 hours ago, The Poojer said:

I'm interested in hearing how this helped you.  My Dad has Peripheral Neuropathy among other things, I don't think NYS has legalized it yet so it wouldn't be much good to him, but curious as to what worked in your case.  Thanks.

 

 

 

 

NY has a medical cannabis program though the program has been developing slowly.  Both CBD and THC products are available

 

NY medical cannabis dispensary Pharmacannis currently offers vaporizor cartridges as well as cannabis concentrate capsules and tinctures.  While things appear to be changing, NY does not currently offer raw cannabis in dispensaries

 

http://www.pharmacannis.com/sites/default/files/ProductList_4.24.2018-01.pdf

 

Here is some research.  It is #3 in a five part article series but the first 2 are more historical

 

https://www.foundationforpn.org/2017/02/09/peripheral-neuropathy-treatment-medical-cannabis-how-cannabis-works/

 

Edited August 30, 2018 by Bob in Mich

[billsfan89]

On 8/30/2018 at 9:21 AM, BillsFan4 said:

 

I have a close friend who has a very severe seizure disorder. He has grand mal seizures (the most severe kind) on a daily, and sometimes hourly basis. He can’t drive, or even work. 

He will be walking and just suddenly started seizing and fall over. He’s caused himself some very serious injuries - falling down stairs. Falling head first onto the concrete. Falling into objects (once he fell and hit his eye directly on the corner of a table. His eye was luckily ok, but looked beyond horrible). 

 

He he has been on a ridiculous amount of medications to try and curb these seizures. 

Some medicines will help him reduce the number of seizures for a short while, but usually stop working pretty quickly. Most of the time, none of the meds have really done him much good, and none have come even close to stopping the seizure. 

The side effects are not good, either. They make him into a “space cadet”, or cause him to have numerous strange side effects. 

 

 

Well, he started to use CBD about 6 months ago and has only had a few seizures in that 6 month time span. It’s been absolutely amazing for him. To go from having multiple seizures a week (if not even more), to now only having a few over the course of a 1/2 year is unbelieveable. Even better is that he says there are no negative side effects whatsoever form the CBD. 

 

People say that CBD oil is good for a lot of other things like Anexity and inflammation. I think it is inconclusive for most other ailments people claim it helps treat. I think that the certainly there are benefits to it beyond seizure treatment but as I said they just haven't been able to clinically prove it. But I have heard a lot of similar stories that that of your close friend. 

[Keukasmallies]

Is there any chance that marijuana is a stepping stone drug to [ fill in the blank ]?

[coloradobillsfan]

The gateway drug theory is dubious at best. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_drug_theory

 

Personally, I have imbibed for over 25 years and aside from some college-age experimentation with psychedelics I have never touched any hard drugs.  Never.