lookylookyherecomescookie Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, swnybillsfan said: i would consider it both. it was incredible that he chose Buffalo. then the contract was such that he could never be worth the money. there were amazing games and baffling disappearances. he was incredible with schwartz, horrible with ryan. he was quirky when we were successful, and a disgruntled diva when we weren't. it was the very definition of a "mixed bag". I wonder how many of us would continue going into work everyday if we had won a $50 million lottery. What's really amazing is how many players continue going all out, risking their physical and mental health, after signing one of today's multimillion dollar guaranteed contracts. I honestly don't know if it's something to be admired, or questioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I think the raiders want to deal mack they only have 2 million of capital space gruden realizes he needs upgrades at a few positions probably wants the cap space for when the surprise cuts come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, swnybillsfan said: i would consider it both. it was incredible that he chose Buffalo. then the contract was such that he could never be worth the money. there were amazing games and baffling disappearances. he was incredible with schwartz, horrible with ryan. he was quirky when we were successful, and a disgruntled diva when we weren't. it was the very definition of a "mixed bag". Cuz Rex Sux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said: I wonder how many of us would continue going into work everyday if we had won a $50 million lottery. What's really amazing is how many players continue going all out, risking their physical and mental health, after signing one of today's multimillion dollar guaranteed contracts. I honestly don't know if it's something to be admired, or questioned. It’s all about love of the game, competitive fire, and a work ethic that is 2nd to none Edited August 8, 2018 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, jamiezzz said: So did he delete it? No he just tweeted a bunch about how Trump sucks, how big of a golf and soccer fan he is, and how domestic beers are less amazing than imports to push it down his Twitter timeline. Come to think of it Jeremy White and Schoop are slowly becoming the same person. Edited August 8, 2018 by thenorthremembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JXCOL3 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Out with my wife and her friends.......did we trade for mack yet? Im checking in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookylookyherecomescookie Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: It’s all about love of the game, competitive fire, and a work ethic that is 2nd to none certainly is with someone like Kyle , not so much with Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 41 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said: I wonder how many of us would continue going into work everyday if we had won a $50 million lottery. What's really amazing is how many players continue going all out, risking their physical and mental health, after signing one of today's multimillion dollar guaranteed contracts. I honestly don't know if it's something to be admired, or questioned. You make more money and you spend more money. A lot of lottery winners end up broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 49 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said: I wonder how many of us would continue going into work everyday if we had won a $50 million lottery. What's really amazing is how many players continue going all out, risking their physical and mental health, after signing one of today's multimillion dollar guaranteed contracts. I honestly don't know if it's something to be admired, or questioned. i think most people that get the big money are also driven by the competitive nature and the burning desire to be the best. to make it to the hall of fame. to be immortalized among their heroes. it's not just the money. it's the glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 6 hours ago, teef said: this makes me happy in a very strange way. It would have been better if the ninja thingies went from small to large. He totally screwed up the hung sway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Cuz Rex Sux yes, yes he certainly did. or does. but i think Mario was always a hot and cold player. more talent than desire...by a lot. if he had a motor like kyle williams he would have been the best to ever play the game. but i don't think that was ever his goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I would be OK with it just being a 2019 1st plus a 2019 late rounder. But I think the Raiders are going to want more and there is a much higher risk of investing a lot of draft capital in a player and a massive contract. But a 2019 1st is a small price to pay for a player of Mack's caliber. Teams that have 3-4 year runs of success (Which in the NFL a run of 3-4 years where you have a window to win a Super Bowl is as good as you can ask for) always have a dominant pass rusher and Mack certainly would provide that esp at an age where he has a solid window of success left. But I think the Raiders would want something that looks like this. 2019 1st, 2019 3rd and a 2020 1st. Trading all that and devoting a lot of cap space to a player is hard to do. But if the Bills could do it with maybe only one 1st rounder and some other 3rd round and lower picks go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 hours ago, chris heff said: Am I confused or are you? Ben may be going to HOF, but the point Ryan C883 was trying to make was great defenses have led some teams to SB championships. He points to Steelers getting close when Ben was a rookie. The Ravens and Bucs each won a SB with journey men QBs, Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson respectively. Flacco was not the QB on that Raven team and what does Tyrod Taylor have to do with anything? He now is a Cleveland Brown. Brad Johnson had a really good year that year. Really good. 8th in TDs while sporting an insane 22:6 TD/INT ratio. 10th in YPG. 4th in passer rating. 8th in completion percentage among guys with 200+ attempts. They didn't win in spite of Johnson. Johnson was no journeyman. He was a guy who could be really good but only managed it inconsistently. Did the Steelers win that Super Bowl Ben's rookie year? Or did they lose it the same way they did a couple of years earlier with O'Donnell at QB. Only after Roethlisberger got authentically good did they win a title. I have to give you Dilfer, a game manager and not a great one but Flacco had a good year and a terrific playoffs. He's been pretty bad since but he was a major reason they won that SB. It's true that great defenses with a mediocre QB win a SB occasionally. (McMahon, Doug Williams, Dilfer, Flacco if you want to count him and maybe a few others, but not Rypien who was probably top two in the league that year before he took what at the time seemed an unexplainable nosedive before we heard about his concussion problems , not Foles who isn't in the SB without Wentz, and not Hostetler who also isn't in that game without Simms playing most of the year.) But it tends to happen around 10% of the time. That's not the route you want to model. You want to model the method that wins 90%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: Bump Grind 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, swnybillsfan said: i think most people that get the big money are also driven by the competitive nature and the burning desire to be the best. to make it to the hall of fame. to be immortalized among their heroes. it's not just the money. it's the glory. You also still have to play to earn that money. It's not guaranteed if you retire or simply don't want to play. But that being said I think most football players want to go out and play the game. Once the money is taken care of that's great but the competition and thrill of the chase motivates them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: Beanie could get Mack for a 2025 5th rounder, a Huffy bike tire and a left 1986 Red and Black Air Jordan. Mark Davis + Jon Gruden = Bizarro World. There's a good chance they might go for that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I am amazed 20% of TBD would not give up a 1st for Mack and extend him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Pete said: I am amazed 20% of TBD would not give up a 1st for Mack and extend him! I think a good part of that 20% realizes that a 1st is no where near enough and don’t want to find out how far away that is to getting it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 22 hours ago, Captain_Quint said: Im posting in midseason form and it's only August. Must be a contract year! get yours Captain_ Quint !! 21 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Who's hungry? not fair. takes me back to my youth. and that's awhile ago 4 hours ago, joesixpack said: ARE WE THERE YET How many more minutes Dad ! will there be Ice Cream Mom ? You said we could have iced cream if we behaved ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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