FrankoElTanko Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Not that you can predict injury but assuming there may have been something lingering beforehand, I am glad that we did not get out in front of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, FrankoElTanko said: Not that you can predict injury but assuming there may have been something lingering beforehand, I am glad that we did not get out in front of this. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Lol they can't even get to camp without Injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I love and hate this time of the year. Love football is back, scared to death with every practice we lose a key player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Safe to assume the Giants were able to give him a full physical before selecting him in the supplemental draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 This board would have exploded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 If losing him is a "big hit" for them, they were already in major trouble. He hadn't even practiced once to see if he was any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Yeesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just unbeal 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I don't like the period between minicamp and training camp at all. We're still in it except for the teams that got to start early because of the HOF game. Aside from a few signings (including those high draft picks), the only news is likely to be bad news: a player has a traumatic injury from skate boarding or water skiing, or gets accused of domestic violence. It's true that there are going to be a lot more injuries in training camp (fortunately, most will be minor dings) but there will be lots of news that isn't bad to counterbalance the bad stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 This sounds like a Kiko Alonzo situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 In general, NFL places way too much emphasis on muscle building and power; should be much more concerned with flexibility, especially at a position like CB. Interior linemen? OK, power is important, but flexibility is key to staying on the field. These guys are so tight and muscle bound they sit down the wrong way at the lunch table and something pops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Doug Whaley was asked to comment -- he said the Giants "knew all along" there was a shoulder issue that would need to be addressed next offseason but they thought Beal could play through it in 2018. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdue Bill Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I love and hate this time of the year. Love football is back, scared to death with every practice we lose a key player. I agree...this is why it is so difficult to read the predictions about win/lost record before the final roster is set. The loss of an Aaron Rodgers or a Todd Gurley would have a major impact on your season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 That sucks!! Beal is a real talent. I guess from the Giants standpoint though it isn’t the worst thing. It will be like drafting him next year. By using the supplemental pick they probably got him later than they would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Not a great strategy when you're relying on a rookie from the supplemental draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Not a great strategy when you're relying on a rookie from the supplemental draft. Except he likely would have been a 1st rounder (and at worst a 2nd) in April. There are exceptions to every rule and he is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Browns lost a WR for the year today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Except he likely would have been a 1st rounder (and at worst a 2nd) in April. There are exceptions to every rule and he is one of them. This past April draft? Doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, Doc said: This past April draft? Doubtful. No, the next draft. FWIW, many draft experts thought only Ward was ahead of him in this past class. He decided to go back to school and then was found to be academically ineligible. He isn’t some long shot. This, like Josh Gordon, was a guy with a ton of talent that ended up in the supplemental draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: No, the next draft. FWIW, many draft experts thought only Ward was ahead of him in this past class. He decided to go back to school and then was found to be academically ineligible. He isn’t some long shot. This, like Josh Gordon, was a guy with a ton of talent that ended up in the supplemental draft. We can debate where he would have gone this past April and next April, but If Beal had been ranked that high, he'd have come out this past draft. And someone would have taken him at least in the 2nd round of the SD. But it still isn't good strategy to depend on a SD player to help your defense. You don't know if you're going to land him and if you don't, where are you then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Doc said: We can debate where he would have gone this past April and next April, but If Beal had been ranked that high, he'd have come out this past draft. And someone would have taken him at least in the 2nd round of the SD. But it still isn't good strategy to depend on a SD player to help your defense. You don't know if you're going to land him and if you don't, where are you then? I promise you that is the type of prospect that he was/is. This was not a great CB draft. The worst we’ve had in some time and those guys always get pushed up the board. I’m not making this stuff up. Here is Matt Miller’s take: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2784321-sam-beal-meet-the-best-supplemental-draft-prospect-since-josh-gordon I tend to agree that not coming out (especially in a week CB class like this past one) was a mistake. In terms of the supplemental draft a guy almost always goes a round later than they would have if they waited. Teams are conservative. Josh Gordon went in the 2nd and is as talented as any WR maybe ever (pure talent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I promise you that is the type of prospect that he was/is. This was not a great CB draft. The worst we’ve had in some time and those guys always get pushed up the board. I’m not making this stuff up. Here is Matt Miller’s take: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2784321-sam-beal-meet-the-best-supplemental-draft-prospect-since-josh-gordon I tend to agree that not coming out (especially in a week CB class like this past one) was a mistake. In terms of the supplemental draft a guy almost always goes a round later than they would have if they waited. Teams are conservative. Josh Gordon went in the 2nd and is as talented as any WR maybe ever (pure talent). Too funny. I saw that take and the "top-100 pick [in this past April draft]" part is what I'm was going off-of. But yes, the weakness of the draft might have pushed him higher. And I agree about Josh, but he's proving why a) he was a SD'er and b) why SD'ers rarely succeed, much less should be counted on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Doc said: If losing him is a "big hit" for them, they were already in major trouble. He hadn't even practiced once to see if he was any good. I agree. Why would a guy they picked up as an afterthought and never played for the team has taken a "big hit"? Too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Too funny. I saw that take and the "top-100 pick [in this past April draft]" part is what I'm was going off-of. But yes, the weakness of the draft might have pushed him higher. And I agree about Josh, but he's proving why a) he was a SD'er and b) why SD'ers rarely succeed, much less should be counted on. Yeah, these guys almost always have major questions. I actually think that a guy in their shoes should just work out all year and enter the next draft. They can still be a part of the pre-draft process. If they have spent an extra 4 months preparing they would be way ahead and are less of an injury risk. It’s almost what Fournette did. With that being said I get it. Why put off the once in a lifetime chance to get paid? I don’t think many (if any) would in their shoes. It would have to be a sure fire guy, clean off the field, that can afford to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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