outsidethebox Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 50 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Pure and simple scapegoating of immigrants. Just like Hitler did to the Jews. Do you think he's (Trump) going to gas those poor innocent mexicans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, westside said: Do you think he's (Trump) going to gas those poor innocent mexicans? The key differences here are that the President is working tirelessly to free and enable the most vulnerable Central and South Americans, who have no one else to champion them or their freedom and dignity. Which is exactly what Hitler did to the Jews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 It's amazing to hear someone who's never cared a whit about protecting the constitutional right to due process of Americans cry about protecting the right to due process for non citizens. They think you're stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's amazing to hear someone who's never cared a whit about protecting the constitutional right to due process of Americans cry about protecting the right to due process for non citizens. They think you're stupid. He's also completely incorrect. Aliens are being detained FOR HEARINGS, to determine their status. That is due process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, westside said: Do you think he's (Trump) going to gas those poor innocent mexicans? So everything up to gassing them is ok? Scapegoating people is demonizing them for political gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: So everything up to gassing them is ok? Scapegoating people is demonizing them for political gain. Have you been taking extra stupid pills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: He's also completely incorrect. Aliens are being detained FOR HEARINGS, to determine their status. That is due process. That's not what he said. He was quoting the president saying these people should not have due process rights. And you are also wrong to say that because a part of due process is granted, then all due process has been granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: That's not what he said. He was quoting the president saying these people should not have due process rights. And you are also wrong to say that because a part of due process is granted, then all due process has been granted. I agree with the President, they should not have due process rights for illegal entry. That law needs to be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Thank God for the Trump administration's policy of separating children from the adults that may have been taking them across the border to sell them into sex slavery. Why do the dems want to promote this disgusting and immoral activity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: I agree with the President, they should not have due process rights for illegal entry. That law needs to be changed. I understand the position. What I don't get is how the so-called religious right can side with him. They are always crying about loving the unborn and how Christ died for ALL our sins but they are eating up this hateful rhetoric and supplying this disgusting person the political power to try and smother these poor human beings who are simply seeking freedom. Didn't the religious right just grow out of the anti-Civil Rights movement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Why do the dems want to promote this disgusting and immoral activity? They're the party that supports every kind of deviant behavior imaginable and you're asking THIS question? 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: I understand the position. What I don't get is how the so-called religious right can side with him. They are always crying about loving the unborn and how Christ died for ALL our sins but they are eating up this hateful rhetoric and supplying this disgusting person the political power to try and smother these poor human beings who are simply seeking freedom. Didn't the religious right just grow out of the anti-Civil Rights movement? You're an idiot. The left cares about these children because they care about their parents voting for the left. When it comes to giving two metric !@#$s about children, the left just doesn't. See the tens of thousands they celebrate being aborted each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I understand the position. What I don't get is how the so-called religious right can side with him. They are always crying about loving the unborn and how Christ died for ALL our sins but they are eating up this hateful rhetoric and supplying this disgusting person the political power to try and smother these poor human beings who are simply seeking freedom. Didn't the religious right just grow out of the anti-Civil Rights movement? Why are you supporting child sex slavery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You're an idiot. The left cares about these children because they care about their parents voting for the left. When it comes to giving two metric !@#$s about children, the left just doesn't. See the tens of thousands they celebrate being aborted each year. No, that's all you guys care about, hence the hissing of "Build the Wall" and "Deport Them" during the last campaign. Your guy is abusing children. Abusing children. And you are defending him. So go ahead and cry that the Liberals are bad and make you hurt inside, but the truth is you guys are the corrupt ones who live off of hate, scapegoating, destroying families, etc. And then move on and tell us how you cry every night for the aborted fetus. Because you seem about as sincere as a Trump University advertisment Your guy is abusing children and he can stop it but won't. Child Abuser in Chief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Ted Cruz has a bill in the senate to allow detained families to stay together providing that there aren't any major criminal charges against the parents, but I haven't heard of anything coming from the house yet. Once there's something he can sign, Trump says he'll do it. We'll see. In the meantime, if Trump ends the separation of children from their detained, illegal immigrant parents via executive order, any bets on who will be the first news outlet to show a photograph of Trump's cruel policy of throwing children behind bars just because their parents committed a crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 If Democrats are so concerned about the Immigration controversy......................... Why don't they sit down with the President and don't leave the room until they FIX IT? Oh, that's right............ Dems are more concerned about keeping up their hateful rhetoric towards the President so they can get votes in the Mid Terms. Keep up the hate, don't fix anything whatsoever and resist at all costs until after November. Then, THEN, we can work on impeaching Trump if we secure the House and the Senate. That's all the Dems have. Again, in short.............. the Dems will just CRY CRY CRY about immigration until the mid terms. FACT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Azalin said: Ted Cruz has a bill in the senate to allow detained families to stay together providing that there aren't any major criminal charges against the parents, but I haven't heard of anything coming from the house yet. Once there's something he can sign, Trump says he'll do it. We'll see. In the meantime, if Trump ends the separation of children from their detained, illegal immigrant parents via executive order, any bets on who will be the first news outlet to show a photograph of Trump's cruel policy of throwing children behind bars just because their parents committed a crime? This is why I'm so anti-"free press." They're benefiting from a system that allows them to lie, to bribe, to cheat and to hide those they deem important sources while working to undermine that system. It's kind of a joke that anyone defends them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: This is why I'm so anti-"free press." They're benefiting from a system that allows them to lie, to bribe, to cheat and to hide those they deem important sources while working to undermine that system. It's kind of a joke that anyone defends them. These people care more about illegal immigrants than American citizens. American citizens come first and foremost, but Democrats are too stupid to care or realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: These people care more about illegal immigrants than American citizens. American citizens come first and foremost, but Democrats are too stupid to care or realize this. Exactly. Why the hell should I support people who stand against everything I believe in? I've already ceased consuming their "journalism" years ago. But me doing that alone doesn't harm them in the least. Edited June 19, 2018 by joesixpack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Exactly. Why the hell should I support people who stand against everything I believe in? I've already ceased consuming their "journalism" years ago. But me doing that alone doesn't harm them in the least. A third of the country is on your side. A third of the country is against you. It's the final third that tells the story. Are they against America or for America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, njbuff said: A third of the country is on your side. A third of the country is against you. It's the final third that tells the story. Are they against America or for America? Depends on which way the wind's blowing. And that's yet another reason i have such disdain for the press. They run the wind, so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 Well, maybe even some of them are waking up to the moral repugnance of this grotesque man they put in the WH: Quote Franklin Graham. “It’s disgraceful, and it’s terrible to see families ripped apart, and I don’t support that one bit,” he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Edited June 19, 2018 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Well, maybe even some of them are waking up to the moral repugnance of this grotesque man they put in the WH: Trump is a hero for keeping these children out of the hands of sex slavers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I feel bad for the folks who want to live the American dream LEGALLY. The ones who want to go thru the process and become Americans, the right way. There are millions of those. But the left and their media sheep could care less about that? Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This place is a sewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: This is why I'm so anti-"free press." They're benefiting from a system that allows them to lie, to bribe, to cheat and to hide those they deem important sources while working to undermine that system. It's kind of a joke that anyone defends them. People are allowed to have opinions you don't like, Joe. And they're allowed to broadcast those opinions using platforms that they own. And they're allowed to be wrong, and they're allowed to spin things in a way that benefits their preferred political views. In fact, them being allowed to do so is the only reason that you're allowed to do so. The same laws and system which protect them, also protect you. You never answered my questions in regards to how your preferred scenario plays out in an adult way. You plugged your ears and pouted, and then suggested some sort of fairytale ending which completely ignores reality. So, in order to keep you honest, and to educate others, I'll again ask, for the third time, the questions you keep running away from: Do you think Donald Trump is going to be President forever? Perhaps King? Or do you think that at some point people who might disagree with you may hold office again, and use the powers you've assigned to this President against you to silence dissenters? Is this a tool you think President Obama or a Hillary Clinton Presidency should have had? Or will you pass a law which draws distinctions between different political ideologies, creating a political apartheid state where those with views differing from you don't enjoy having their rights protected? How does this play out in your warped dystopian world view? 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: This place is a sewer. I know. Lot's of folks down here, yourself included, seem to be supporting modern day slavery and the sex trafficking of children. Sewer indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: This place is a sewer. https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Had a chance to give this a read yet? Or nah? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: People are allowed to have opinions you don't like, Joe. And they're allowed to broadcast those opinions using platforms that they own. And they're allowed to be wrong, and they're allowed to spin things in a way that benefits their preferred political views. In fact, them being allowed to do so is the only reason that you're allowed to do so. The same laws and system which protect them, also protect you. You never answered my questions in regards to how your preferred scenario plays out in an adult way. You plugged your ears and pouted, and then suggested some sort of fairytale ending which completely ignores reality. So, in order to keep you honest, and to educate others, I'll again ask, for the third time, the questions you keep running away from: Do you think Donald Trump is going to be President forever? Perhaps King? Or do you think that at some point people who might disagree with you may hold office again, and use the powers you've assigned to this President against you to silence dissenters? Is this a tool you think President Obama or a Hillary Clinton Presidency should have had? Or will you pass a law which draws distinctions between different political ideologies, creating a political apartheid state where those with views differing from you don't enjoy having their rights protected? How does this play out in your warped dystopian world view? 1) no. 2) maybe. though i doubt it since the people who disagree with me are the overlords of the media. 3) They (especially Obama) did, and used it. 4) It'd be nice, but it'd never happen. the left is a disease rotting this country from within. unfortunately, it's a disease that's been left unchecked and will likely destroy us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, njbuff said: If Democrats are so concerned about the Immigration controversy......................... Why don't they sit down with the President and don't leave the room until they FIX IT? Because the president wants a wall, and he's not budging on any immigration change unless he gets the billions needed to fund it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: People are allowed to have opinions you don't like, Joe. And they're allowed to broadcast those opinions using platforms that they own. And they're allowed to be wrong, and they're allowed to spin things in a way that benefits their preferred political views. In fact, them being allowed to do so is the only reason that you're allowed to do so. The same laws and system which protect them, also protect you. You never answered my questions in regards to how your preferred scenario plays out in an adult way. You plugged your ears and pouted, and then suggested some sort of fairytale ending which completely ignores reality. So, in order to keep you honest, and to educate others, I'll again ask, for the third time, the questions you keep running away from: Do you think Donald Trump is going to be President forever? Perhaps King? Or do you think that at some point people who might disagree with you may hold office again, and use the powers you've assigned to this President against you to silence dissenters? Is this a tool you think President Obama or a Hillary Clinton Presidency should have had? Or will you pass a law which draws distinctions between different political ideologies, creating a political apartheid state where those with views differing from you don't enjoy having their rights protected? How does this play out in your warped dystopian world view? I don't know why that's so hard to understand. We can be governed by laws, or ruled by the whims of people. And far too many prefer the latter, even though those whims and people routinely change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: This place is a sewer. It's best to tune them out. Only about 25% of Americans support this policy: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/separating-families-at-the-border-is-really-unpopular/amp/?__twitter_impression=true It's easy to get caught up in the rage, but these opinions are not representative of our country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Tune out those sharing truth about crimes against children. That's what is suggested by people who claim to be outraged over the treatment of children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, TheElectricCompany said: Because the president wants a wall, and he's not budging on any immigration change unless he gets the billions needed to fund it. And the President is a 1,000,000,000% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: It's best to tune them out. Only about 25% of Americans support this policy: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/separating-families-at-the-border-is-really-unpopular/amp/?__twitter_impression=true It's easy to get caught up in the rage, but these opinions are not representative of our country. Then 75% of people don't understand the policy. How many people do you think will support putting children in prison? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Tune out those sharing truth about crimes against children. That's what is suggested by people who claim to be outraged over the treatment of children. A good percentage of them don't even come over with their parents. Where is the outrage over that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, njbuff said: A good percentage of them don't even come over with their parents. Where is the outrage over that? Details and facts are the enemy of those who are only interested in scoring partisan points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It's best to tune them out. Only about 25% of Americans support this policy: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/separating-families-at-the-border-is-really-unpopular/amp/?__twitter_impression=true It's easy to get caught up in the rage, but these opinions are not representative of our country. Because they haven't had the problem properly explained to them, Happy. Or do you believe that only 25% of the country is repulsed by the idea of children being sold into sex slavery? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: Because they haven't had the problem properly explained to them, Happy. By whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: This place is a sewer. PPP is the sewer and this thread is 2 feet of **** flowing on through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, njbuff said: And the President is a 1,000,000,000% correct. History tells us otherwise. Edited June 19, 2018 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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