PromoTheRobot Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Entercom owns Radio.com Well, their platform is crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well, their platform is crap. That's the least of their problems.  ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Funny how most of the people complaining in this thread also support net neutrality.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, GG said: Funny how most of the people complaining in this thread also support net neutrality.   Why does one have anything to do with the other? Are you saying that Verizon should throttle down Radio.com? You are also jumping to the conclusion that data availability is the only issue here, not whether the app is designed to work efficiently. Edited July 16, 2018 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:  Why does one have anything to do with the other? Are you saying that Verizon should throttle down Radio.com? You are also jumping to the conclusion that data availability is the only issue here, not whether the app is designed to work efficiently. I don't think the app is all that bad. I never listen live, only on demand. I like the download feature..and have no issue with the stream starting over when using the downloaded content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:  Why does one have anything to do with the other? Are you saying that Verizon should throttle down Radio.com? You are also jumping to the conclusion that data availability is the only issue here, not whether the app is designed to work efficiently.  Just the nature of this response is proof enough that you're clueless about net neutrality.   The claim is that the ISPs would somehow block content (for reasons that don't make sense in the real world). Yet in practice, it's the content owners who exercise greater control. But why let that get in the way of horrific rulemakings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Now it is off Tunein I think that is it for me as a foreign based Bills fan as far as WGR is concerned. Real shame. I used to enjoy listening to Sal's slots on the morning show and the drive time show on catch up when I was in the gym.   If anyone does work out ways that it can still be accessed abroad grateful if you drop me a PM.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Now it is off Tunein I think that is it for me as a foreign based Bills fan as far as WGR is concerned. Real shame. I used to enjoy listening to Sal's slots on the morning show and the drive time show on catch up when I was in the gym.   If anyone does work out ways that it can still be accessed abroad grateful if you drop me a PM.  It works fine for me, listening to Murph and Tasker right now, see if this works for you: http://player.radio.com/listen/station/wgr-sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, T&C said: It works fine for me, listening to Murph and Tasker right now, see if this works for you: http://player.radio.com/listen/station/wgr-sports  Nope I just get the "you are trying to stream this station from a location outside of north america" recorded message. I always got that when trying to access live content. Now I get it when trying to access on demand audio too.... if the page even opens without saying I am from a banned GB IP address.   Where are you based? Edited July 16, 2018 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:  Nope I just get the "you are trying to stream this station from a location outside of north america" recorded message. I always got that when trying to access live content. Now I get it when trying to access on demand audio too.... if the page even opens without saying I am from a banned GB IP address.  Well that sucks. Where are you located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, T&C said: Well that sucks. Where are you located? Â London, UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Â London, UK. In this day and age there HAS to be a way to be able to listen. You want to know what I'd do, I'd call WGR and present it directly to them. Never know, they might have a solution or an alternate for Bills fans living out of the country. Worth a shot, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShipUPride Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I too hate this migration to the Radio.com app. I am an iPhone user and I drive a lot. This means I also use Waze as my nav solution. Unfortunately, when I launch the Radio.com app and launch a stream (say WGR), then start Waze, the Radio.com app crashes within 10 seconds.  My work around, in case anyone else has this problem, is to start Waze first, then the radio.com app. After streaming has started, hit the home button and (no lie) sit at the home screen for 10 seconds, then open Waze again. 90% of the time, that works and it "holds". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: I don't think the app is all that bad. I never listen live, only on demand. I like the download feature..and have no issue with the stream starting over when using the downloaded content.  My main issues with the app is the apparent demand for data when it starts. It also has a habit of stopping on demand audio when data runs low but it doesn't restart. You have to hit the play button again. 1 hour ago, GG said:  Just the nature of this response is proof enough that you're clueless about net neutrality.   The claim is that the ISPs would somehow block content (for reasons that don't make sense in the real world). Yet in practice, it's the content owners who exercise greater control. But why let that get in the way of horrific rulemakings?  I get that you feel pity for poor picked on mega-corporations, but you seem fairly flip about giving power to ISP to control the flow of data. I mean what could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Â Â I get that you feel pity for poor picked on mega-corporations, but you seem fairly flip about giving power to ISP to control the flow of data. I mean what could possibly go wrong? Â Yes, I feel lots of pity for Google and Facebook who were the leading proponents of net neutrality. Â Learn the facts first, then post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Â London, UK. Try this, the UK is listed: Â http://onlineradiobox.com/us/wgr550/app/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, GG said:  Yes, I feel lots of pity for Google and Facebook who were the leading proponents of net neutrality.  Learn the facts first, then post  Maybe you can educate me, being such an expert on the matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:  Maybe you can educate me, being such an expert on the matter? Search function is your friend.   In a nutshell, net neutrality is a fake issue invented by the large tech firms who don't want to pay their share of internet transit. It has nothing to do with ISPs blocking websites. The tech firms exercise far more control over content than ISPs.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, GG said: Search function is your friend.   In a nutshell, net neutrality is a fake issue invented by the large tech firms who don't want to pay their share of internet transit. It has nothing to do with ISPs blocking websites. The tech firms exercise far more control over content than ISPs.   As someone who works in the Product department of a major ISP, you are wrong. Be ready to pay for individual fast lanes, on top of what you are already paying for subpar speeds.  Net Neutrality wasnt started by large tech firms. It is not a "fake" issue. It is a consumer issue that goes down to the We the People level.  Content creators can do what they like, and their subscribers will react accordingly. ISPs mostly have a monopoly, or duopoly at best, in local areas. There is no competition or choice, or path unhappy consumers can take.  Unless you own an ISP you are on the wrong side of this argument and against your own best interests. I would benefit greatly (to the tune of six-figure bonuses) if my company is allowed to do this. And I'm still against it because I know what it means in the bigger picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Please keep this discussion on net neutrality separate from one on WGR. Â This has been hashed over many times in Off the Wall forum until political sabre rattling occurred and moved to PPP limbo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Please keep this discussion on net neutrality separate from one on WGR. Â This has been hashed over many times in Off the Wall forum until political sabre rattling occurred and moved to PPP limbo. Â Good call, Im out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 One more app complaint: when you click a breaking news alert, nothing loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:  As someone who works in the Product department of a major ISP, you are wrong. Be ready to pay for individual fast lanes, on top of what you are already paying for subpar speeds.  Net Neutrality wasnt started by large tech firms. It is not a "fake" issue. It is a consumer issue that goes down to the We the People level.  Content creators can do what they like, and their subscribers will react accordingly. ISPs mostly have a monopoly, or duopoly at best, in local areas. There is no competition or choice, or path unhappy consumers can take.  Unless you own an ISP you are on the wrong side of this argument and against your own best interests. I would benefit greatly (to the tune of six-figure bonuses) if my company is allowed to do this. And I'm still against it because I know what it means in the bigger picture.  There’s a lot of wrong in this post. Just because you work in product development doesn’t mean you know the history of internet transport.  What you’re describing is exactly what critics of net neutrality have been warning for a decade.  Because the tech firms don’t want to pay for wholesale transit, the increased costs of maintaining the networks will eventually get passed on to the consumers.  Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 9 hours ago, GG said:  There’s a lot of wrong in this post. Just because you work in product development doesn’t mean you know the history of internet transport.  What you’re describing is exactly what critics of net neutrality have been warning for a decade.  Because the tech firms don’t want to pay for wholesale transit, the increased costs of maintaining the networks will eventually get passed on to the consumers.  Good job.  They already do, and pay special wholesale rates (Google and Facebook are two of my customers). Net Neutrality wont change that or make those charges go away for them. They need the connectivity.  Getting rid of NN will simply allow the ISPs to double-dip, and charge the end user for costs the wholesale customers are already paying for. Not to mention control content, which is a whole other can of worms.  Again, unless you own an ISP there is no reason you should be against Net Neutrality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrage Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 New app sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 18 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: One more app complaint: when you click a breaking news alert, nothing loads.   Me too and I find both bizarre and irritating. Complete garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 WGR is run by a bunch of amateurs. Cheapens the city. Need new competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhalen26 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Not working through Apple CarPlay for me  I wish they’d go back to what worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 7:44 PM, GunnerBill said:  Nope I just get the "you are trying to stream this station from a location outside of north america" recorded message. I always got that when trying to access live content. Now I get it when trying to access on demand audio too.... if the page even opens without saying I am from a banned GB IP address.   Where are you based? Hey Gunner, I am in Europe for vacation , Italy specifically, and had no issues downloading episodes. I have not tried to listen live though.  V2 App has has been working fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Hey Gunner, I am in Europe for vacation , Italy specifically, and had no issues downloading episodes. I have not tried to listen live though.  V2 App has has been working fine for me.  V2 app? Never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:  V2 app? Never heard of it. The app updated itself about 10 days ago. Easier interface, trash icon to delete downloads. The downloads have worked great once this version came out. Maybe if you delete what you have and re install from App Store. Some of the issues will go away.  BtW I used  EXpressVPN to watch game pass for the Panthers game. Worked great Friday morning in Rome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Never had issues with this thing until this morning. Incredibly irritating, to the point where I just shut it off. Not worth the hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShipUPride Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 We drove up from southern PA for the bills game thursday night. In years past, the entire drive up and the entire drive back would have had the WGR app (or tunein) playing. With this new app, we don't even bother trying. It's a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: The app updated itself about 10 days ago. Easier interface, trash icon to delete downloads. The downloads have worked great once this version came out. Maybe if you delete what you have and re install from App Store. Some of the issues will go away.  BtW I used  EXpressVPN to watch game pass for the Panthers game. Worked great Friday morning in Rome.  I have googled for a v2 app and all I got on google play was some vine type short video sharing thing. Is it apple only? Or is v2 app a VPN thing as well?  I don't need VPN for the games I get everything on my gamepass subscription but I confess I am missing WGR a bit. Not getting Sal's kinda daily round up does make me feel less connected. I have been listening to the cover 1 guys but I do miss the WGR chat. I might get a cheap VPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetar Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) I hate this new app, every now and again it just stops working or strings ad's on forever and you miss the show that is on the air. Â Edited August 13, 2018 by Magnetar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Magnetar said: I hate this new app, every now and again it just stops working or stings ad's on forever and you miss the show that is on the air.   That happened yesterday afternoon when McDermott was meeting with the media just before practice.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:  I have googled for a v2 app and all I got on google play was some vine type short video sharing thing. Is it apple only? Or is v2 app a VPN thing as well?  I don't need VPN for the games I get everything on my gamepass subscription but I confess I am missing WGR a bit. Not getting Sal's kinda daily round up does make me feel less connected. I have been listening to the cover 1 guys but I do miss the WGR chat. I might get a cheap VPN. Apologies for the confusion. Meant to say version 2 of the Radio.com, and those are my words. The user interface has changed, so I am calling it V2. I assume it is the one available in the App Store now  Works just fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 So is the app fixed? I don't want to download and delete it Again... been around 4 times, and that's just a drag. Listening to WGR on the laptop and in the commercials they are touting a new updated app. Fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, T&C said: So is the app fixed? I don't want to download and delete it Again... been around 4 times, and that's just a drag. Listening to WGR on the laptop and in the commercials they are touting a new updated app. Fixed?   I wish they'd mention a fix to Alexa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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