The Now Moment Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Red King said: Agreed. Don't misread my posts. I think/hope the Browns are turning things around. Like the Bills I see them potentially being a dangerous team in the 2019 season. I just think a lot of people, OP included, are a little too optimistic about the Browns this season. Turnarounds take time...especially from 1-15 and 0-16. I expect to see improvement from them, but they're not going to go "Zero to Hero" in just one season. Agreed, rebuilding takes time and I see it taking 2-3 year before these teams truly become contenders if they continue the upward trend. I'm excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: We have a very solid run game though and that is what this team is, a run first team. So many on here compare this team to other teams that pass the ball way more than us and compare the weapons. We win by strong defense and a solid run game with a few plays here and there from the QB. Once Allen develops, I think they expect and hope that will change but we have a roster that doesn't need the QB to win every game for us. Last year was evidence of that. I don't know what our record will be this year with such a big roster turnover again but I'm not going to go against this coaching staff who proved so many wrong last season. HAD a very strong run game. Past tense. Quick, name the 3 interior starting OL from our pack of backups who are going to step in and step up to keep our once strong run game effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: browns will have an easier schedule, and if they are starting TT and we are starting Allen, I can see the browns. I think this is a coin flip tbh Schedule and QB is my reasoning. Beane and McDermott won't look good this year, fans have to think long-term. Bills will improve the offense a lot next offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: HAD a very strong run game. Past tense. Quick, name the 3 interior starting OL from our pack of backups who are going to step in and step up to keep our once strong run game effective. It's understandable to think we will take a step back from last year but the scheme/philosophy has changed as well as the players. We have no idea what will happen up front next year. You can point to past performances all you want to say they will be bad but what happened to Poyer and Hyde last year when they joined a different scheme? I remember the grumbling over how we had the worst safeties in the league and yet...they became one of the best in a different scheme. It's not as cut and dry as fans make it. We will see how the group plays together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Notwithstanding my Buffalo rimmed glasses, it is not clear hue Jackson is a good enough coach in my mind to pick the Browns here. McD, on the other hand made the playoffs with a lot less last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 The Browns have 4 wins in three seasons, Seriously 4 wins in three years! They shocked the nfl by going Mayfield 1 and passing on Chubb at 4. I'd saying if you gave 31 other teams the number 1 and 4 pick in this years draft they don't end up with Mayfield and Ward. Now perhaps the Browns are smarter then every other team in the NFL or perhaps they are still the Browns. I'll even say that the Bills ended with up the Better QB and better Defensive player in the first round when its all said and done. I do think they are improved but I also think they blew this draft big time. I'd say the Browns are a 4 win team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Cleveland has the more talented offense. Buffalo has the better defense. This all comes down to AJ and his level of play. It's a push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Ah yes, the “bum fight” of the NFL, Cleveland vs Buffalo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) LMAO - what a thread. This will define the men from the boys. Buffalo Bills baby!! Buffalo will double the Browns victories good thing you didn't you make it public. Edited May 14, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Both teams go 16-0 and meet in the AFC championship game where of course the Bills will win 51-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) Just now, ddaryl said: Both teams go 16-0 and meet in the AFC championship game where of course the Bills will win 51-3 LOL Edited May 14, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: I don't think it will be close. Bills 3-4 wins and the Browns 8-9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 If Tyorld Taylor starts they will have more wins than we will. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Hue still the coach in Cleveland? I take the Bills, but not by much. I think both teams coupd be at the 7 win range, but coaching makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 40 minutes ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: The Browns have 4 wins in three seasons, Seriously 4 wins in three years! They shocked the nfl by going Mayfield 1 and passing on Chubb at 4. I'd saying if you gave 31 other teams the number 1 and 4 pick in this years draft they don't end up with Mayfield and Ward. Now perhaps the Browns are smarter then every other team in the NFL or perhaps they are still the Browns. I'll even say that the Bills ended with up the Better QB and better Defensive player in the first round when its all said and done. I do think they are improved but I also think they blew this draft big time. I'd say the Browns are a 4 win team. Of course not every team would choose the same players. Need and team fit come into play here. Mayfield has the type of swagger that John Dorsey likes and thinks fits what they are trying to do. It's the same reason why Buffalo took Allen over Rosen, it was a better fit for this team and what this coaching staff is trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 There are two things in the NFL that you should never try to go against the grain on: 1. Always assume the Patriots will win. 2. Always assume the Browns will lose. Until proven otherwise, I'll go with the Bills to win more games simply because it's the Browns. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Maybe Cleveland's got the right managment now... MAYBE, but no way to confirm today. All they've done is signed a bunch of Fantasy Football names and I don't buy that it will actually work. You don't go from 0-16 to winning >6 games w/o major changes to the culture of an organization. There's also more to the game than just skill players. Going with the Bills at 7 to 9 wins vs Cleveland getting 3-6 wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Cleveland has just signed Brogan Roback. I change my vote. They are a force now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: I don't think it will be close. Bills 3-4 wins and the Browns 8-9. I love how this board every year predicts 3 or 4 wins and yet every year we double that. Next year, we are going to be "awful" again and yet we never are. On the flip side, this same board always says the Browns will be good and a team on the rise...and then they win 1 game in last 32 games. Hilarious. There wont be a 9 win gap again this year between Browns and Bills, but I still think the Bills will win at least 8 games and could challenge for the playoffs again IF...and this is a key IF...either AJ or Allen (or both) can be solid or better. D will be even better than last year IMO and I think it has the potential to be a top 10 unit this year. I think the offense is not going to drop off much, if at all, like so many of the usual doom and gloomers predict. So with a better D and what I expect to be similar or better production from the offense, this team shouldn't fall off much and could even improve. DISCLAIMER: If both AJ and Allen struggle a lot, then I don't think the D will be good enough to keep this team at or above .500 this year. However, I am also in the camp that the offense shouldn't fall off much and could actually be better under AJ than TT. In the event Allen beats AJ out for the job in preseason or sometime during the season, then I would expect Allen to be able to do the same or better. So, I will still take the Bills in this scenario, but I am also optimistic at QB this year. I am concerned about OL turnover and WR health though, so hopefully we see some positive signs in preseason in those areas. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I just dont get some people.....negative nancies The browns annually suck....I mean suck BAD We just made the playoffs.....and even when we dont we are in the 8-8 range every year. Can we let the Browns actually win a couple of games a season before we actually put the tail between the legs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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