2019 Mock Drafts and top prospects

[Buffalo Barbarian]

11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have not seen so much as one throw of his. The numbers are not exactly spectacular. 2 weeks ago I hadn't even heard of him. Now good people like Matt Miller have him in the top 25 of their big board. 

 

They need clicks.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

They need clicks.

 

 

I think there is some Ryan Nassib factor too. This is not a good class at all in my opinion so finding this unheralded guy to suddenly point to at least generates conversation. 

 

I would hate to be a team that needs a QB from this class. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

36 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think there is some Ryan Nassib factor too. This is not a good class at all in my opinion so finding this unheralded guy to suddenly point to at least generates conversation. 

 

I would hate to be a team that needs a QB from this class. 

 

Agreed 110% , this class is terrible.

 

I'm surprised Eric Dungey and Trace McSorley aren't getting more attention because of it.

 

Really hope we get Dungey and use him like Taysom Hill.

 

 

I want McSorley as our Edelman

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13 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think there is some Ryan Nassib factor too. This is not a good class at all in my opinion so finding this unheralded guy to suddenly point to at least generates conversation. 

 

I would hate to be a team that needs a QB from this class. 

You don't think someone will want Lock or Herbert? I think that's the best case scenario. Dropping down 10 spots and taking Marquise Brown. There will be at least 2-3 high quality OL prospects available in the 2nd. Elgton Jenkins or one of those Wisconsin boys. This is the year to trade down for sure, the 2nd round is where we need as many picks as possible. Trade down twice if you have to.

[Coach Tuesday]

17 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

If he is right about this then I have no business even trying to be an armchair scout.  I look at Haskins and see a UDFA.

[NewEraBills]

CB to keep an eye on especially if he tests/times well is JoeJuan Williams, Vanderbilt.  Was at the game last night and found out he's going pro.  I love his game and frame for the position.  Doesn't give up a lot of big plays, staggers WR's at the line with length and is tough to pass the football over at 6'3.  

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57 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:

CB to keep an eye on especially if he tests/times well is JoeJuan Williams, Vanderbilt.  Was at the game last night and found out he's going pro.  I love his game and frame for the position.  Doesn't give up a lot of big plays, staggers WR's at the line with length and is tough to pass the football over at 6'3.  

There's good free agent CBs we can sign, same can't be said for G, C and RT, three of our biggest needs. Bare cupboard for this FA OL class. Got to draft at least 3.

 

I think there are also a couple of decent FAs at WR as well. Tavon Austin on a cheap prove it type of deal and go after John Brown hard, offer him Robert Woods money. 

 

Yeah CB and WR should be addressed in FA, there's decent options there. Take the rest of our needs to the draft.

Edited November 25, 2018 by NewDayBills

[26CornerBlitz]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

If he is right about this then I have no business even trying to be an armchair scout.  I look at Haskins and see a UDFA.

 

FWIW, he also loved Nathan Peterman whom he believed would become an good NFL starting QB. 

[GunnerBill]

52 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

There's good free agent CBs we can sign, same can't be said for G, C and RT, three of our biggest needs. Bare cupboard for this FA OL class. Got to draft at least 3.

 

I think there are also a couple of decent FAs at WR as well. Tavon Austin on a cheap prove it type of deal and go after John Brown hard, offer him Robert Woods money. 

 

Yeah CB and WR should be addressed in FA, there's decent options there. Take the rest of our needs to the draft.

 

I don't agree with your assessment of the FA class. I think there are multiple good interior offensive line options (it is thinner at RT) and almost nobody worth signing at Wide Receiver. 

 

In terms of interior OL options there are:

 

Top End

Ramon Foster - G - PIT

Matt Paradis - C - DEN

Billy Turner - G - DEN

Quinton Spain - G - TEN

Ryan Kalil - C - CAR (though likely to retire)

 

Mid range upgrades

Nick Easton - C/G - MIN 

Mitch Morse - C - KC

Tom Compton - G - MIN

AJ Cann - G - JAX

Ben Garland - G - ATL

 

Older vets who can do 1/2 years

Roger Saffold - G - LAR

Andy Levitre - G - ATL

Mike Iupati - G - ARI

 

[JohnC]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't agree with your assessment of the FA class. I think there are multiple good interior offensive line options (it is thinner at RT) and almost nobody worth signing at Wide Receiver. 

 

In terms of interior OL options there are:

 

Top End

Ramon Foster - G - PIT

Matt Paradis - C - DEN

Billy Turner - G - DEN

Quinton Spain - G - TEN

Ryan Kalil - C - CAR (though likely to retire)

 

Mid range upgrades

Nick Easton - C/G - MIN 

Mitch Morse - C - KC

Tom Compton - G - MIN

AJ Cann - G - JAX

Ben Garland - G - ATL

 

Older vets who can do 1/2 years

Roger Saffold - G - LAR

Andy Levitre - G - ATL

Mike Iupati - G - ARI

 

What's your assessment of the Bills's RG John Miller. I thought he was going to be anchored as a guard for us for a long time. It just seems that he hasn't solidified his position and his long term prospects with us is very precarious. Is he a system player who was affected by a system change? Does he have slow feet which is a death trait in this league? What's his problem. Sometimes I see him make a clean sturdy block and then other times I see him completely miss as if he is blocking a phantom. 

 

If the Bills can draft a player such as Bama's  Williams who is a plug and play player and add another interior lineman from free agency our OL can significantly be improved. If Teller can develop then a line that is currently obvious deficient can become better than average. And if you factor in that the qb play can be much better in Allen's sophomore year then the play of the OL should naturally improve. .

[BuffaloHokie13]

On 11/23/2018 at 8:46 PM, the skycap said:

UVa has some outstanding DBs

No

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't agree with your assessment of the FA class. I think there are multiple good interior offensive line options (it is thinner at RT) and almost nobody worth signing at Wide Receiver. 

 

In terms of interior OL options there are:

 

Top End

Ramon Foster - G - PIT

Matt Paradis - C - DEN

Billy Turner - G - DEN

Quinton Spain - G - TEN

Ryan Kalil - C - CAR (though likely to retire)

 

Mid range upgrades

Nick Easton - C/G - MIN 

Mitch Morse - C - KC

Tom Compton - G - MIN

AJ Cann - G - JAX

Ben Garland - G - ATL

 

Older vets who can do 1/2 years

Roger Saffold - G - LAR

Andy Levitre - G - ATL

Mike Iupati - G - ARI

 

This is a rather good draft for OL. I'd rather draft a bunch of elite prospects in a deep draft than to spend money there. Trade down not only once but twice if you have to. Elgton Jenkins should be our 1st pick and hopefully at the bottom of RD1. Too many good OL prospects RDS1-4 to mention. Load up. Sign LeVeon Bell to run behind our elite OL. Go after John Brown and Tavon Austin to go with Zay at WR. I'd offer EJ Gaines a contract to come back but Buffalo could also look to Bradley Roby perhaps. Definitely bring back Matt Barkley on a 2 yr deal and draft a midround QB to develop behind them.

[NewEraBills]

2 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

There's good free agent CBs we can sign, same can't be said for G, C and RT, three of our biggest needs. Bare cupboard for this FA OL class. Got to draft at least 3.

 

I think there are also a couple of decent FAs at WR as well. Tavon Austin on a cheap prove it type of deal and go after John Brown hard, offer him Robert Woods money. 

 

Yeah CB and WR should be addressed in FA, there's decent options there. Take the rest of our needs to the draft.

Williams should be a 2nd/3rd rounder, not a first.  So I still think he's someone to look at.

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

This is a rather good draft for OL. I'd rather draft a bunch of elite prospects in a deep draft than to spend money there. Trade down not only once but twice if you have to. Elgton Jenkins should be our 1st pick and hopefully at the bottom of RD1. Too many good OL prospects RDS1-4 to mention. Load up. Sign LeVeon Bell to run behind our elite OL. Go after John Brown and Tavon Austin to go with Zay at WR. I'd offer EJ Gaines a contract to come back but Buffalo could also look to Bradley Roby perhaps. Definitely bring back Matt Barkley on a 2 yr deal and draft a midround QB to develop behind them.

 

John Brown is a complimentary piece at best and Tavon sucks. On the OL I think we need some guys who can come in and be upgrades immediately. Not rookies who will have growing pains and a learning curve. 

 

I would try and sign at least two OL in FA and take one in the first 3 rounds. 

[Kirby Jackson]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

John Brown is a complimentary piece at best and Tavon sucks. On the OL I think we need some guys who can come in and be upgrades immediately. Not rookies who will have growing pains and a learning curve. 

 

I would try and sign at least two OL in FA and take one in the first 3 rounds. 

This is EXACTLY where I’m at. Paradis and Saffold in FA and another guy that can play OT in the draft.

[Buffalo716]

On 11/23/2018 at 4:01 PM, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Probably because they lost and it’s gonna be his last game 

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Probably because they lost and it’s gonna be his last game 

 

Nope. He injured his knee again and has been set back two-three weeks pre Applewhite. 

[Buffalo716]

17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Nope. He injured his knee again and has been set back two-three weeks pre Applewhite. 

And that will probably end his college career.

 

they aren’t playing in the AAC championship and he might not play in the bowl.

 

makes a lot more sense than crying over an injury during the game... which literally NEVER happens in college or the pros

 

guys making weird faces and swearing and shouting? Yes... actually crying, not really ... thats rare

Edited November 26, 2018 by Buffalo716

[YoloinOhio]

On 11/24/2018 at 4:49 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

I have not seen so much as one throw of his. The numbers are not exactly spectacular. 2 weeks ago I hadn't even heard of him. Now good people like Matt Miller have him in the top 25 of their big board. 

You are tough to impress Gunner! Haskins numbers are 4082 yards, 46 TDS (42 passing), 7 INT. 314/355, 169 passer rating, 69% completion percentage in his first season. He’s second in the country in passing yards. He lit up the #1 D in the country for 6 TDs 0 picks.

Edited November 26, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

You are tough to impress Gunner! Haskins numbers are 4082 yards, 46 TDS (42 passing), 7 INT. 314/355, 169 passer rating, 69% completion percentage in his first season. He’s second in the country in passing yards. He lit up the #1 D in the country for 6 TDs 0 picks.

 

The post you are quoting was not about Haskins - it was about the Duke kid.

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The post you are quoting was not about Haskins - it was about the Duke kid.

Lol thought it was Haskins. I have not watched Duke either. What do you think of Clayton Thorson at Northwestern 

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Lol thought it was Haskins. I have not watched Duke either. What do you think of Clayton Thorson at Northwestern 

 

I haven't watched him in 2018. I did look at a couple of his 2017 games when there were rumours he might declare last year. I wasn't particularly impressed. Shades of Nate Peterman.

[JohnC]

17 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is EXACTLY where I’m at. Paradis and Saffold in FA and another guy that can play OT in the draft.

If you add Bama's Jona Williams to the mix and then do what you suggest in adding to two  free agents to the unit you not only are building a good line but also depth. Look what happened with Jacksonville and their mounting injuries on the line? Their depleted line was being overwhelmed with the combo of Hughes/Williams. 

 

I don't see Miller returning next year. He seems to be in the McDermott doghouse. After a penalty that cost us a first down he was taken out and replaced by Groy. He didn't return after that. 

 

With a season under his belt Josh Allen should be able to more quickly make his reads and be more decisive in releasing the ball. That in itself should elevate the play of the line. An example of the opposite notion is Bortles's atrocious play. When your qb can't throw the ball down field it creates a tremendous amount of pressure for the OL playing in a one-dimensional offense. 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[DCOrange]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I haven't watched him in 2018. I did look at a couple of his 2017 games when there were rumours he might declare last year. I wasn't particularly impressed. Shades of Nate Peterman.

 

His arm is significantly stronger than Peterman's though, which is one of, if not the biggest issue Peterman has.

 

Having said that, as much as I wanted to like Thorson, I don't really see it either. He has some tools and has some mobility, but he seems like a pretty blah prospect to me. He's supposedly pretty renowned for his leadership/personality though; I remember the stuff I was reading a year or two ago about him made him sound like someone that I could see McDermott being interested in.

 

Don't think that's an issue at this point with Allen in the fold though.

[GunnerBill]

26 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

 

His arm is significantly stronger than Peterman's though, which is one of, if not the biggest issue Peterman has.

 

Having said that, as much as I wanted to like Thorson, I don't really see it either. He has some tools and has some mobility, but he seems like a pretty blah prospect to me. He's supposedly pretty renowned for his leadership/personality though; I remember the stuff I was reading a year or two ago about him made him sound like someone that I could see McDermott being interested in.

 

Don't think that's an issue at this point with Allen in the fold though.

 

I didn't like almost anything about Peterman's game.

[BuffaloHokie13]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

The post you are quoting was not about Haskins - it was about the Duke kid.

His tape is pretty good and David Cutcliffe speaks highly of him both publicly and privately to FOs. He's rising because of the latter. I like him, especially compared to the 2019 crop in general. He's come a long way in his time at Duke.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

His tape is pretty good and David Cutcliffe speaks highly of him both publicly and privately to FOs. He's rising because of the latter. I like him, especially compared to the 2019 crop in general. He's come a long way in his time at Duke.

 

I haven't seen a single play. I think the poor class always left the possibility of late risers.

[DCOrange]

New mock from Benjamin Solak, one of my favorite draft writers:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/11/26/solak-mock-draft-3-0/

 

Bills picks:

9. Buffalo Bills

D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss

Last time I did a mock draft on this here site, I got shredded by #BillsMafia for mocking them a potentially elite DT in Ed Oliver. Well, my dear Buffalonians, Oliver is still on the board — but I’m a good listener.

As the news broke earlier this week that D.K. Metcalf would indeed declare for the 2019 NFL Draft, I wondered how high his ceiling was. This is probably it: working his way into Top-10 consideration with a clean bill of health and stellar Combine testing. Metcalf’s density-adjusted athleticism will top the charts, and his tape beats that of teammate A.J. Brown when put under the microscope. Buffalo needs WR help and shouldn’t shy away from any fit/style of play — so Metcalf unseats Kelvin Benjamin, thank the good Lord in heaven.

 

40. Buffalo Bills: Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State

 

Other notable stuff:

• Two tight ends from the same college (Iowa) going in the top 8.
• 10 WRs going in the first two rounds
• Dwayne Haskins (#5 to the Giants) is the only QB in the first two rounds (this assumes Herbert returns to school).

[Victory Formation]

FA:

1.) LeVeon Bell, RB to 3yrs 54m.

2.) John Brown, WR 4yr 32m

3.) Matt Barkley, QB 2yr 4m

4.) John Miller, OG 1yr 1m

5.) EJ Gaines, CB2 2yrs 8m

 

 

Draft:

Trade down

1.) Elgton Jenkins, OC, Mississippi State

2.) Bryce Love, RB, Stanford

2.) David Edwards, RT, Wisconsin

3.) Beau Benzschawel, OG, Wisconsin

4.) TE

4.) Defense

5.) Defense

5.) Defense

6.) Defense

6.) Defense

7.) WR

7.) WR

[thunderingsquid]

Here's my first shot at Fanspeak so far for 2019.  

 

There are so many good DLinemen in this draft it's hard not to land one.

 

8: R1P8

 

OT JONAH WILLIAMS

ALABAMA

40: R2P8

 

DL DERRICK BROWN

AUBURN

71: R3P7

 

WR KELVIN HARMON

NC STATE

110: R4P8

 

CB KRISTIAN FULTON

LSU

133: R4P31

 

LB DEVIN BUSH

MICHIGAN

147: R5P8

 

G GARRETT BRUMFIELD

LSU

168: R5P29

 

RB MYLES GASKIN

WASHINGTON

[Kirby Jackson]

I was inspired by @thunderingsquid so here it is (with the disclaimer that I have no idea on the value of some of these guys). Leo Lewis is one of my favorite picks and in hindsight I might have done some things differently. Anyways:

 

8: R1P8

 

CB GREEDY WILLIAMS

LSU

40: R2P8

 

WR N'KEAL HARRY

ARIZONA STATE

71: R3P7

 

WR DEEBO SAMUEL

SOUTH CAROLINA

110: R4P8

 

RB BRYCE LOVE

STANFORD

133: R4P31

 

TE JACE STERNBERGER

TEXAS A&M

147: R5P8

 

EDGE LEO LEWIS

MISSISSIPPI ST

168: R5P29

 

G DARRYL WILLIAMS

MISSISSIPPI ST

183: R6P8

 

LB T.J. EDWARDS

WISCONSIN

224: R7P8

 

S JORDAN FULLER

OHIO ST

239: R7P23

 

C JAKE HANSON

OREGON

 

[TheBeaneBandit]

Drafttek way off as usual.....not knocking anybody, just their rankings.

[CookieG]

I got what I wanted in the 1st 4 rounds. Banogu is worth a shot at the bottom of the 4th.

 

8: R1P8

OT JONAH WILLIAMS

ALABAMA

40: R2P8

WR KELVIN HARMON

NC STATE

71: R3P7

WR DEEBO SAMUEL

SOUTH CAROLINA

110: R4P8

G BOBBY EVANS

OKLAHOMA

133: R4P31

EDGE BEN BANOGU

TEXAS CHRISTIAN

147: R5P8

DL DONTAVIUS RUSSELL

AUBURN

168: R5P29

TE MITCHELL WILCOX

SOUTH FLORIDA

183: R6P8

RB TRAVIS HOMER

MIAMI (FL)

224: R7P8

S JORDAN FULLER

OHIO ST

239: R7P23

C SEAN KREPSZ

NEVADA

[thunderingsquid]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I was inspired by @thunderingsquid so here it is (with the disclaimer that I have no idea on the value of some of these guys). Leo Lewis is one of my favorite picks and in hindsight I might have done some things differently. Anyways:

 

8: R1P8

 

CB GREEDY WILLIAMS

LSU

40: R2P8

 

WR N'KEAL HARRY

ARIZONA STATE

71: R3P7

 

WR DEEBO SAMUEL

SOUTH CAROLINA

110: R4P8

 

RB BRYCE LOVE

STANFORD

133: R4P31

 

TE JACE STERNBERGER

TEXAS A&M

147: R5P8

 

EDGE LEO LEWIS

MISSISSIPPI ST

168: R5P29

 

G DARRYL WILLIAMS

MISSISSIPPI ST

183: R6P8

 

LB T.J. EDWARDS

WISCONSIN

224: R7P8

 

S JORDAN FULLER

OHIO ST

239: R7P23

 

C JAKE HANSON

OREGON

 

That would be a great draft.  Lotta weapons.

1 hour ago, CookieG said:

I got what I wanted in the 1st 4 rounds. Banogu is worth a shot at the bottom of the 4th.

 

8: R1P8

OT JONAH WILLIAMS

ALABAMA

40: R2P8

WR KELVIN HARMON

NC STATE

71: R3P7

WR DEEBO SAMUEL

SOUTH CAROLINA

110: R4P8

G BOBBY EVANS

OKLAHOMA

133: R4P31

EDGE BEN BANOGU

TEXAS CHRISTIAN

147: R5P8

DL DONTAVIUS RUSSELL

AUBURN

168: R5P29

TE MITCHELL WILCOX

SOUTH FLORIDA

183: R6P8

RB TRAVIS HOMER

MIAMI (FL)

224: R7P8

S JORDAN FULLER

OHIO ST

239: R7P23

C SEAN KREPSZ

NEVADA

Love Bangou

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

I think the Bills are going to win a few and not pick in the top 10.  If that is the case count me in for trying to trade back and targeting Anthony Johnson in the early to mid 20's.  I am no expert but I know a star when I see one.  Anthony Johnson has good speed, very good hands, run routes well and is a beast after the catch.  He is going to take short passes in the NFL and run over undersized defenses like Moulds and Boldin used to do. 

 

Also very important that he plays for UB and would be more likely to re-sign here at the going rate than most.  Mack wanted us to draft him but we were too stupid to see the advantage of drafting a player with star potential that went to college here and wanted to play here.  Markets like Buffalo have to take advantage of that. 

 

Be late to the party if you want but Johnson is going to be a star.  I'm sure many of you are ready to pounce but go back and look at who was beating the drum for Baker Mayfield in his college thread.  I don't care about those who say he isn't a top 10 WR in the draft, I know a star when I see one and Anthony Johnson is going to shine.

Edited November 27, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12

[Victory Formation]

1. Jonah Williams, OL, Alabama

2. Bryce Love, RB, Stanford

3. Elgton Jenkins, OL, Mississippi State

4. Tyler Biadasz, OL, Wisconsin

4. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 27, 2018 by NewDayBills

[Victory Formation]

1. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU

2. Greg Little, OT, Mississippi

3. Elgton Jenkins, OL, Mississippi State

4. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma

4. Tyler Biadasz, OL, Wisconsin

[thunderingsquid]

43 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

1. Jonah Williams, OL, Alabama

2. Bryce Love, RB, Stanford

3. Elgton Jenkins, OL, Mississippi State

4. Tyler Biadasz, OL, Wisconsin

4. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks great but I have a feeling Brown will be gone in the top half of the 2nd round.    Or are those your top 4 with a tie for fourth? 

By the way, do we really have two 4th rounders?  Tankathon.com has us with just 2 5ths and two 7ths.  

 

My non-Fanspeak mock:

 

1st:  Little OT

2nd: Tillery DT

3rd:  Samuel WR

4th:  Scharping OT/G

5th:  Arnette CB

5th:  Banogu OLB

Edited November 27, 2018 by thunderingsquid

[Victory Formation]

11 minutes ago, thunderingsquid said:

 

Looks great but I have a feeling Brown will be gone in the top half of the 2nd round.    Or are those your top 4 with a tie for fourth? 

By the way, do we really have two 4th rounders?  Tankathon.com has us with just 2 5ths and two 7ths.  

 

My non-Fanspeak mock:

 

1st:  Little OT

2nd: Tillery DT

3rd:  Samuel WR

4th:  Scharping OT/G

5th:  Arnette CB

5th:  Banogu OLB

Not sure I used Fanspeak.