HappyDays Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Even when one costs way more than the other? As you said there are no sure things. An extra 1st and 2nd to get Darnold over Rosen or Mayfield is nuts If I'm the Bills I don't assume any one of those 3 makes it past Denver. So I'm trading up to at least 4 and taking the best one. I've grown more wary of Mayfield and Rosen over the past couple weeks. Mayfield comes from a spread system and Rosen is a statue in the pocket with an injury history. So I personally would pay the extra cost for Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Has anyone listened to his Podcast “Season of Sam”? He sounds exactly like McDermott. McD probably has to hold back on how much he would trade for him. That's how I see it as well. Darnold is a perfect fit for the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 If the Bills want Darnold, they need to get to 1. If Beane does everything he can to get that pick and Cleveland says 'No we just can't pass on Darnold' there is nothing that can be done. As long as the Bills take their best shot, that matters most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Early on in the process, I didn't know what to think about Darnold. Rosen is more polished as a passer, and so I gravitated toward him. The more you watch Darnold, though, the more you get it. He reminds me of Roethlisberger. Great pocket presence, ability to make steps here and there to avoid the rush. Definitely got moxie. I think he'll pan out. Right now I have 4 tiers: Darnold/Rosen Mayfield Allen/Jackson (way down yonder on the Chattahoochee) Everyone else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 44 minutes ago, mannc said: Relax, Darnold has a high football IQ. And he’s coming from a school that reliably produces great NFL QBs. Oh, wait... Im a big Rosen fan but have been warming up to Darnold. Just curious what schools do reliably produce great nfl qb's? Personally I cant think of any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, Wsam4031 said: Im a big Rosen fan but have been warming up to Darnold. Just curious what schools do reliably produce great nfl qb's? Personally I cant think of any Not great NFL QBs per se, but highest rates appear to be Michigan State & NC State. MSU had Stanton, Cousins, and Hoyer all start in the same week a few times. NC State had Rivers, Glennon, and (kind of) Russ Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Darnold was originally recruited as a LB. Play him both ways. Is that true??? Hey... know what other QB Bills fans are pretty fond of who was recruited by Joe Paterno as an LB...? Sounds like Darnold would fit right in in Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: Is that true??? Hey... know what other QB Bills fans are pretty fond of who was recruited by Joe Paterno as an LB...? Sounds like Darnold would fit right in in Buffalo Yes it’s true. He has a LB build too And it does remind me of 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Not great NFL QBs per se, but highest rates appear to be Michigan State & NC State. MSU had Stanton, Cousins, and Hoyer all start in the same week a few times. NC State had Rivers, Glennon, and (kind of) Russ Wilson. my point is when you look at the nfl over the past 20 years there is not a school that consistently pops out qbs. To be negative on a guy because of past players from a certain school is just a bad way to look at things. No school is putting out great qbs consistently that's why its such a crap shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Wsam4031 said: my point is when you look at the nfl over the past 20 years there is not a school that consistently pops out qbs. To be negative on a guy because of past players from a certain school is just a bad way to look at things. No school is putting out great qbs consistently that's why its such a crap shoot. I don't think it's the best way to look at things at all. But on one sunday last year 6 of the 32 teams starters went to 2 colleges. That's pretty good I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said: Im a big Rosen fan but have been warming up to Darnold. Just curious what schools do reliably produce great nfl qb's? Personally I cant think of any Well, there are a few, but my point is USC is infamous for producing overhyped busts who stink as soon as they are removed from the Trojan bubble. It’s happened often enough that I doubt it’s a coincidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, mannc said: Well, there are a few, but my point is USC is infamous for producing overhyped busts who stink as soon as they are removed from the Trojan bubble. It’s happened often enough that I doubt it’s a coincidence. Only the two that played for Cheatey Petey and came from Mater Dei Edited April 20, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I agree. We will sohow end up with Darnold and next year we will have roughly $100million in salary cap to use in Free Agency with a rookie QB contract. The AFC East will be very different in the next 5-8 years. Cmon McBean figure it out and make it happen please for all Bills Mafia!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wsam4031 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, mannc said: Well, there are a few, but my point is USC is infamous for producing overhyped busts who stink as soon as they are removed from the Trojan bubble. It’s happened often enough that I doubt it’s a coincidence. I think you just look at who busted and where they were and thall say a lot about why they busted. That's not just usc qbs its all early qbs. Like I said im onboard for rosen first but would not be upset with Darnold at all. Im not at all skeptical or worried about him because leinhart and sanchez were bums. FOr every Jim Kelley there is a Ken Dorsey or gino toretta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Mayfield has tiny hands, Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I may cry if we get Darnold. It's been a while since we have had a legit franchise QB. Rosen and Mayfield would excite me but I just think Darnold is everything we want. His anticipation is off the charts. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Lol what? The Browns are a mess. These 2 players are TOTAL OPPOSITES. How can you be deciding between 2 completely different players? Josh Allen: Tall, big hands, poor college stats Baker Mayfield: Short, small hands, amazing college stats What do they value? How can they be zeroing in on polar opposites? If they value big strong players then that imediately disqualified Mayfield. If they value completion percentage then Allen is off the board. This is bizarre even for Cleveland Edited April 20, 2018 by kdiggz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If I'm the Bills I don't assume any one of those 3 makes it past Denver. So I'm trading up to at least 4 and taking the best one. I've grown more wary of Mayfield and Rosen over the past couple weeks. Mayfield comes from a spread system and Rosen is a statue in the pocket with an injury history. So I personally would pay the extra cost for Darnold. But then you need to think about how people are saying Darnold is a turnover machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: But then you need to think about how people are saying Darnold is a turnover machine He is. So was/is Deshaun Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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