Kirby Jackson Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 12:21 PM, Foxx said: Tyrod throwing to Beckham and Landry? hmmmm.. what could go wrong with that picture. Expand He’s already throwing to Landry and Gordon. Beckham is going to be a whiny diva no matter where he goes.
Foxx Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 12:25 PM, Kirby Jackson said: He’s already throwing to Landry and Gordon. Beckham is going to be a whiny diva no matter where he goes. Expand there are not enough balls to go 'round for that situation. nevermind the fact Tyrod will sit on the majority of those footballs.
May Day 10 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 If I were a Giants fan, I would be hoping beyond hope that the Giants can pull off a good deal and get rid of this guy, IMO he is trouble and will lead to more trouble, not worth the headache and the cap money. If he is a clown now, how will he be with unlimited guaranteed money to set him up for several lifetimes? I know NYC and Giants fans though and they will riot.
Boatdrinks Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 5:42 AM, Big Blitz said: To recap the great WR class of 2014: Watkins: Traded; not resigned; now on 3rd team Landry: Not resigned; headcase; now in Cle Cooks: Traded. Demanded one. Fantastic decoy now in New England Robinson: Hurt. Not resigned. Now in Chi Benjamin: Traded. Jordan Matthews: Traded. Will soon be on 3rd team Martavis Bryant: likes weed John Brown: Injury plagued Lee: Resigned. He's meh. Moncrief: Near bust status OBJ: Now on trading block. Also, headcase. Davante Adams: New no.1 in GB. We'll see. Evans---the best of all of them imo. Staying with Bucs locked up with extension. Expand And yet lots of these WRs are getting paid. Big $$$. These NFL people must not know what they are watching.
Boatdrinks Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 10:15 AM, Bill_with_it said: I didnt miss anything. Watkins pay has nothing to fo with actual production. Its still based on potential; thats rich and synonymous with bust and unemployed gms. OBJ will continue to clearly outperform the disappointing underachieving Watkins. The Rams knew exactly what Watkins was and are now going after someone else.. Expand Nothing? Lol, I'm sure they hated the 8 TDs ( on a mere 70 targets) and his YPC was also tops among Rams WRs . If SW had a decent QB his whole career and an OC that fed him the ball he'd have much better overall " production". That's why he got paid. NFL types know what they are seeing. And " busts" generally don't end up getting lucrative second contracts in the NFL. If they get a second contract at all. The Rams are looking for a replacement that's less expensive right now. OBJ fits that , even if he ends up being a rental. Nothing the Rams are doing right now is for the long term. They're going all in to win now. They couldn't pay Watkins and do much else. They have weapons, but not a WR with SWs skill set.
26TrapDraw Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) On 3/26/2018 at 8:14 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand Yep. Good for the Giants for not letting this AssClown hold them hostage if this report is true. What a giant bag this guy is becoming. Edited March 27, 2018 by BeefCurtns
Real McClappy Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 8:53 PM, SouthNYfan said: Christ I forgot Landry was there. That's very true IF they love Darnold, which this would give them Fair points Expand OBJ, Landry and Gordon, Ohh MY What will Tyrod do?
billsfan5121 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 4:19 PM, Real McCoy said: OBJ, Landry and Gordon, Ohh MY What will Tyrod do? Expand Hold onto the ball too long and take a sack or scramble for a few yards? Just kidding. Sort of. 1
SouthNYfan Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 4:19 PM, Real McCoy said: OBJ, Landry and Gordon, Ohh MY What will Tyrod do? Expand Run around like a chicken with his head cutoff and not throw it. Or just check down to Landry, who will finish the season with 285 receptions for 325 yards.
DefenseWins Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 I'm just glad that the Bills won't be one of the teams paying these two (Watkins & OBJ) the ridiculous amounts of money they are asking for. Mike Evans was clearly the class of that years draft. His production speaks for itself. Don't be surprised when both these head cases are with new teams again in a couple of years. "Skill Sets" don't win football games. Players that PRODUCE win football games...
Big Blitz Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 3:08 PM, Boatdrinks said: And yet lots of these WRs are getting paid. Big $$$. These NFL people must not know what they are watching. Expand That wasn't the point of my post....not saying they were "busts." No they're (most of them) are very good. 2 of them are elite. Just found it crazy. That half on that list are still with the team that drafted them (those teams know them best). And OBJ might be dealt and Bryant was almost released. Still might.
Boatdrinks Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 4:44 PM, Big Blitz said: That wasn't the point of my post....not saying they were "busts." No they're (most of them) are very good. 2 of them are elite. Just found it crazy. That half on that list are still with the team that drafted them (those teams know them best). And OBJ might be dealt and Bryant was almost released. Still might. Expand I think this might be the new normal at the skill positions. FA WR salaries are escalating. Windows of opportunity to win championships are shrinking. Drafted players are cost controlled and you get 5 years at a decent rate for 1st rounders. Then you start the cycle again with new drafted skill guys. QBs , elite pass rushers, elite pass protecting OLs and the top few WRs will be retained. The rest are rotated through every few seasons. On 3/27/2018 at 4:44 PM, DefenseWins said: I'm just glad that the Bills won't be one of the teams paying these two (Watkins & OBJ) the ridiculous amounts of money they are asking for. Mike Evans was clearly the class of that years draft. His production speaks for itself. Don't be surprised when both these head cases are with new teams again in a couple of years. "Skill Sets" don't win football games. Players that PRODUCE win football games... Expand Evans may be the most productive, but that doesn't make everyone else JAG. If you hit on a pick like Evans , you keep him if you can. I don't think Tampa has a great winning tradition while they've had Evans, though. Other WRs can win games too.
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 5:42 AM, Big Blitz said: To recap the great WR class of 2014: Watkins: Traded; not resigned; now on 3rd team Landry: Not resigned; headcase; now in Cle Cooks: Traded. Demanded one. Fantastic decoy now in New England Robinson: Hurt. Not resigned. Now in Chi Benjamin: Traded. Jordan Matthews: Traded. Will soon be on 3rd team Martavis Bryant: likes weed John Brown: Injury plagued Lee: Resigned. He's meh. Moncrief: Near bust status OBJ: Now on trading block. Also, headcase. Davante Adams: New no.1 in GB. We'll see. Evans---the best of all of them imo. Staying with Bucs locked up with extension. Expand Agree with you. Mike Evans is a monster. Last year was disappointing but IMO he's still the most dependable of the bunch.
TheFunPolice Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 He'll get traded to New England for a 2019 conditional 6th round pick probably
Boatdrinks Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 5:11 PM, TheFunPolice said: He'll get traded to New England for a 2019 conditional 6th round pick probably Expand The Giants aren't looking to do NE or Beckham any big favors.
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 5:18 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand Y'know, pick No. 22 is higher than pick No. 23... Just saying...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 5:18 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand I wanna say this is all posturing by the Giants to knock some $$ off the contract OBJ feels like he deserves. However, they may just see his departure as inevitable if they don't feel like he is worth being the highest paid player in the league. He can change an entire team, for better or worse. Would it be unreasonable to think the Giants could've been behind these recent pictures of doobie smacks and booger sugar being leaked? Are NFL teams so dubious that they'll throw another player under the bus to save some cash? How would Eli feel knowing the Giants are trading away their best player with unlimited potential, who is in his prime as Eli's window begins to close? Questions that circle my mind as this saga begins. Idk man... I just don't know.
whatdrought Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 I think the rams are making a big mistake by going all in to buy a "window" of superbowl contention. How much of winning the superbowl is actually, at the end of the day, just luck? You want to be able to contend year after year and then hope one year that the luck falls in your lap.
Victory Formation Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 8:21 PM, BillsEnthusiast said: The Rams seem to have infinite cap space, I swear. First they're going after Suh and now OBJ? Expand They can keep kicking the can down the road but eventually they're going to have to eat that equity.
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