SouthNYfan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, JTown said: My hat is off to you and your wife. That is exactly what I meant by a hand up vs. A hand out. I personally would never give a pan handler money on the street but I will assist them if they are interested in improving their lives. I am a veteran and was homeless myself. I volunteer regularly through several organizations. I find that most people today look the other way when they see a desperate human, but go out of their way to help an animal. Just my opinion. Of course. You ain't wrong. Regarding vets, a lot of the older ones, like Nam, didn't get the services they deserved, including mental health services. It's much better today, but for much of the older guys, like Nam era, they are past the point of helping, sadly. Mental health still carries a huge stigma in this country, and we need to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 So, assuming he is not too seriously injured and recovers, does he have any trade value? Can we package him in with other picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Right I am agreeing with this. So many people like Kyle Williams on team ask for help. But I do feel him noone helps out. Gets you so alone. Yea it's easy to say that a person could just ask for help. I know it doesn't work like that. A lot of people cannot just carry the weight of a persons problems along with thier own. Sometimes people are not even really aware until it is already to late. I know the feeling of wanting to be understood and not being heard. It does have a possibility to push you over the edge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Helpmenow said: Chronic, smoking the stuff Looks like mental illness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Are we ever going to really find out happened? I’m not sure that any of this information is required to be released. It’s not as if he was arrested for the possession of drugs. His people could simply deny any drug use, and blame mental illness, whether or not that’s the case . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Sounds like a psychotic break, whether it was bad drug induced, a deep psychological problem, or both is a ? Really glad he didn't jump out the window or kill anyone and I hope he gets the help he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Can we wait? I'm glad he's alive. Let's wait till the story emerges from the b.s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, HalftimeAdjustment said: So, assuming he is not too seriously injured and recovers, does he have any trade value? Can we package him in with other picks? Are you suggesting that McBeane package him up with the trade we offered to the Giants? Never mind I know you are't suggesting that. I think this stuff always seems like it will never go away when it happens. But I think if he regains his senses and it becomes one very bad but single episode, people will kind of forget about it eventually. Something else will come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzReaper Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 If he did mess up... Broke the substance abuse policy. Do you really think he gets booted? I mean maybe a harsh suspension? I suppose his less than stellar rookie year won't help him. His actions were bad for a drunk or drugged guy but people in the NFL have done worst. He may be able to keep playing idk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Iiiiiiiiiiiiiii got a feeeeeling, that Buffalo is going to the Super Bowl; thiiiiiiiiisssss is not the lassst time, that buffalo is going to the SUPER BOWL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Another successful trade up in the draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, GrizzReaper said: If he did mess up... Broke the substance abuse policy. Do you really think he gets booted? I mean maybe a harsh suspension? I suppose his less than stellar rookie year won't help him. His actions were bad for a drunk or drugged guy but people in the NFL have done worst. He may be able to keep playing idk This is the reason I felt so critical of the situation. Very bad timing for that situation. Now it's out in the open for everyone to see and speculate on. Really wish the situation didn't get that out of control. Zay really could be under serious pressure that I couldn't understand. People can have bad days. People can get better. It's just that your in the NFL and your business is aired out. Now you have that not so great first year and this incident. Thats two points against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 What a dumb a** !! Just when you think we got a decent person to be a good player on the team they turn into a dumb a** !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBorBust2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Jack ass. Immediately displace this guy to the bottom of the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, QBorBust2018 said: Jack ass. Immediately displace this guy to the bottom of the depth chart. Do you want a do-over? Really? This is wrong on so many levels! He can play or he can’t. He has a problem or he doesn’t. Different issues. Will you move him down on the depth chart if he had a mental breakdown or a bad drug reaction? Knee jerk reactions are so pitiful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Best route I've seen him run. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 And the biggest need and hole STILL remains QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: And the biggest need and hole STILL remains QB Well, I think there are some big holes in the thread here also . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Best route I've seen him run. Exactly what I said! -Physical AF at the LOS!... Great acceleration... They told me I was out of "likes" today, but 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And the biggest need and hole STILL remains QB Who's he gonna throw to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, #34fan said: Exactly what I said! -Physical AF at the LOS!... Great acceleration... They told me I was out of "likes" today, but Who's he gonna throw to? Lets see the WR they traded for last year??? not that the Last QB threw to WRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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