Thurman#1 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Uh what? With all the new FA contracts on the books, including Lotulelei, the Bills have $26M left. Subtract around $5m for rookie contracts and the Bills have $21M left. That's a fair chunk of money. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ Rookie allocation these days is around $9 mill. That's around how much it generally costs. Not $5 mill. 22 minutes ago, Magox said: That's more than I thought and I hope that you are right And you are right, sometimes or for that matter often times you can't fix all your holes in one year. And yikes, I typed "there" rather than their. I don't see Murphy on that list Yup. No Murphy. No Kyle Williams. No Logan Thomas. No - lemme check the spelling - Owamagbe Odighizuwa. Edited March 16, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I don't think we can get Darnold away from the Browns, Giants, Broncos or Jets. I would rather see if one of the top 5 QB's lands to us at #12, and if not, then take a second tier guy in the second round and restock the team with quality players. Maybe even swap #12 for a second this year and a 1st for 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Rookie allocation these days is around $9 mill. That's around how much it generally costs. Not $5 mill. Right but rounds 4, 5 and 6 players are likely to not be Top 51, if they make the team at all. Sportrac has it projected with Top 51 & rookie pool at about $6M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Looking at the "number of holes" is not a way to build a roster. 1. Quarterback is the most important position on the team by a mile. We need to get this pick right. Not wait for the scraps to fall to us. 2. Zay Jones was a top prospect last year. His rookie year was disappointing, but I doubt the Bills have totally given up on him yet. 3. With the blocking scheme change, I'm optimistic that John Miller can come back and claim that spot at Right Guard. 4. I have no interest in bringing back Preston Brown. We can do better. Based on the estimates I've seen, we should have enough cap space to sign a few more guys. The second wave of players is significantly cheaper than the last. We should have plenty to bring in another Cornerback, a Linebacker, an Offensive Lineman and maybe another Wide Receiver. The key at this point is finding the diamonds in the rough, not the guys asking for $7-10 million per year. We can probably move up to #2 or #3 by trading away our extra 1st Round Pick and a 2nd Rounder. After a QB is picked, that would still leave us with a 2nd Round Pick and two 3rd Rounders this year, along with our entire draft next year. Three Day 2 picks to fill out the additional roster holes. I'm perfectly comfortable with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Right but rounds 4, 5 and 6 players are likely to not be Top 51, if they make the team at all. Sportrac has it projected with Top 51 & rookie pool at about $6M. The spotrac site has the Draft Pool Cap @ $9,766,222 All of this is detailed in the 2018 Cap thread. The Rookie #'s, the broadcast #'s of the players just signed and other assumptions. Edited March 16, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) When I look at Sportac, I see 26 million including 9.7 million for Draft. 26 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Rookie allocation these days is around $9 mill. That's around how much it generally costs. Not $5 mill. Yup. No Murphy. No Kyle Williams. No Logan Thomas. No - lemme check the spelling - Owamagbe Odighizuwa. When I look at Sportac, I see 26 million remaining including 9.7 million for Draft. Plus some amount for above players. I would guess there is about 15 million left after signing those 3 since I believe Kyle's contract is 6 Million for 1 year. Just guessing other two contracts will be around 5 million this year. Edited March 16, 2018 by richardb1952 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: I don't think we can get Darnold away from the Browns, Giants, Broncos or Jets. I would rather see if one of the top 5 QB's lands to us at #12, and if not, then take a second tier guy in the second round and restock the team with quality players. Maybe even swap #12 for a second this year and a 1st for 2019. are you high? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Nothing else matters till we find a franchise arm and I personally don't want the Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen at all .......Rudolph would be palletable but he would be the 4th best QB in this draft.. The holes will get filled just like last year 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 As far as the final 53-man roster goes, I see 12 spots that need to be filled by players not currently under contract: QB1 WR2 WR5 (assuming one of Reilly or Streater wins the WR6 job) RG competition RT competition C2 DT3 Mike LB Sam LB2 Slot CB1 Boundary CB3 S4 They've got a lot of work left to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Thing is every team has some major hole. You can either have depth at some spots with holes, or no holes with absolutely no depth. I think we are definitely lacking in depth at dline and o line and LB. Preston brown would be a wise signing. Essentially he would be a bridge MLB just like a bridge QB until we can get that elite MLB in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said: Every team has "major holes" and this comes up every year. You know where the most gapping, massive, dark black hole is? QB. And it's been like that for 20 years. The Bills have tried every other way possible. Build a stout defense - Failed Build a ground and pound - Failed build up with WR talent - Failed The only option left is to find a QB, once that is found, then you focus on the "Other holes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: QB WR2 RG RT OLB MLB CB3 Beane could fill all 7 by re-signing P. Brown, keeping the six picks in the top 100, and taking best available QB at #12. If he trades 12, 22, and 65 for a QB, we'll still have 2-3 major holes left. I'm not sure we have the money to address those remaining holes in FA. And we’ll probably get the leftover QBs that no one wanted. One may slip and we could get lucky......but is it worth the risk? This is the year that we get our Franchise QB. McCarron is not that. You’ve done such a great job so far, don’t screw this up Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: The Bills have tried every other way possible. Build a stout defense - Failed Build a ground and pound - Failed build up with WR talent - Failed The only option left is to find a QB, once that is found, then you focus on the "Other holes" Build a stout defense - Failed - Not quite true - Rebuilding back to a top 10 is happening after Wrex ruined it. Build a ground and pound - Failed - true but because of the near bottom ranked passing game build up with WR talent - Failed - true but because of the near bottom ranked passing game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Build a stout defense - Failed - Not quite true - Rebuilding back to a top 10 is happening after Wrex ruined it. Build a ground and pound - Failed - true but because of the near bottom ranked passing game build up with WR talent - Failed - true but because of the near bottom ranked passing game I'm talking as a whole during the drought. The Bills have tried every which way possible. Your last two points, prove my point. They built up the team that way but the team failed, because of lack of QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: QB WR2 RG RT OLB MLB CB3 Beane could fill all 7 by re-signing P. Brown, keeping the six picks in the top 100, and taking best available QB at #12. If he trades 12, 22, and 65 for a QB, we'll still have 2-3 major holes left. I'm not sure we have the money to address those remaining holes in FA. We're on the same page Blog!! The Bills can re-sign Gaines and take CB3 off the table. I did a Fanspeak draft last night and I picked: 1a) Lamar Jackson 1b)Vita Vea 2a) DJ Chark 2b) Mike Gesicki 3a) Tim Settle 3b) Billy Price 4) Shaquem Griffin @MLB 5) Dorance Armstrong 6) Siran Neal This draft would get me GM of the year with the other acquisitions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I would not term all of them as major holes. Defensive tackle was a major hole before Star Lotulelei was signed and Kyle Williams resigned. I'll grant you that they are holes or places where Buffalo should try to upgrade. I think linebacker is still a pretty significant hole as well as QB, but Buffalo could line up and play with what they have on the oline and have a chance to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Do we really have a big hole at CB3? It's not expected that you have a starting caliber CB at CB3. I think out starting secondary is good enough that I don't see CB3 as a glaring weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 So...you’re saying we have a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: I'm talking as a whole during the drought. The Bills have tried every which way possible. Your last two points, prove my point. They built up the team that way but the team failed, because of lack of QB. my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I guess the definition of 'hole' has become more severe over the years. In my mind, Colin Brown, Cyril Richardson, TJ Graham, Kelvin Sheppard, Chris Williams, Erik Pears (as a Guard) .... now those guys were holes. In fact, Brown and Richardson were enormous pits of doom. We certainly need to get better in the mentioned positions, but QB is the big one, followed by LBs(need several). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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