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The Final Verdict On The Sammy Watkins Draft Day Trade?

What is the final verdict on The Sammy Watkins Trade  

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  1. 1. What is the final verdict on The Sammy Watkins Trade

    • FAIL. Doug Whaley gave up too much and Sammy under delivered
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    • SUCCESS. It was a good trade. Sammy wasn't utilized properly
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26 minutes ago, harv shitz said:

Another in a litany of blown, wasted picks, by Whaley, and his mentor, Buddy F-ing Nix!

 

Nix passed on Russel Wilson, because, and I quote him addressing me on WGR, "we thought he was too short, and besides, we had Ryan, and he was our guy."

 

Just be glad the idiocy at One Bills Drive is gone, and we have real football minds in control.

I love this quote....too funny

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I would've traded up to grab Khalil Mack.

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FAIL.....said it at the time........only really one position you move up in the draft and give away your next years first round draft pick....see this years draft..QB

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On 3/13/2018 at 10:07 PM, mileena said:

 

How does that matter?

 

 

It doesnt. I wanted to know who went with the pick we traded away cuz sometimes i wonder how it wouldve played out if we never traded up.  It didnt work out for us. The Browns didnt make much out of those picks either. 

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Posted (edited)

If only they used that top 5 pick on the second or third QB in that draft and picked up Manziel or Bridgwater, or moved up for Bortles. 

 

We would’ve watched our bills in like 3 Super Bowls by now

Edited by Over 29 years of fanhood
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Fail!!!!

Sammy will never become the elite receiver he was pumped up to be.

Still can’t believe what KC gave him😂😂😂

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Posted (edited)

Given how highly we think of deontr Thompson. We would have had several more play making with watkins. Loves Gaines, but are we keeping him?? We lack at the WR position

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The moral of the story is good wr's and rb's can be found in later picks. Only qbs are worth trading up for.

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Posted (edited)

It was clearly a fail, when judging by the results. He's not on the team anymore. I don't even understand why this is a thread. 

 

I wish it would have worked out better, and I love how now everyone knows Odell would have became what he is. The rest of the receivers in that draft aren't better than Sammy, or just as injury prone.

 

No one saw Odell being what he was and what he could become in that draft. It's annoying to read the people with 20/20 hindsight talk about receivers in that draft.

6 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Hey we could of had this clown

 

 

Could you imagine this fanbase dealing with that dude? It'd be so ugly.

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It's a lesson for NFL teams.

 

 NEVER trade up in the draft for a WR when you don't have a QB to get him the ball.

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On 3/13/2018 at 9:11 PM, BuffaloRush said:

Ok it's been a full 4 years since the epic draft day deal that sent 2 draft picks to Cleveland to select Florida WR stand out Samual Watkins IV with the 4th overall selection in 2014.  Bills GM Doug Whaley called Watkins a "generational talent" and when discussing the trade he said this:

 

We thought it was a win for us now. We're building our roster now, and granted, you hate giving up No. 1 picks, but what we thought he brings us now is worth giving up a low (No. 1) that we'll be giving up next year."  

 

And then, he walked it back and uttered a phrase which Bills fans will remember forever ""That's not a guarantee; I'm saying we expect it to be low," he said. "I'm a competitor, call me crazy, I like those odds."

 

But the question remains, what is the final verdict on Sammy Watkins?   Was he truly the "generational" talent as promised?  His numbers wouldn't indicate that he was but you can argue that there were serious reasons for that.  

 

 

So let's make the call about Sammy Watkins

 

Not even close to a generational talent and it was an idiotic trade.  You take those kinds of gambles for a QB not a WR.  The sad thing is that Sammy was not even close to being the best WR in the draft.  Not to mention he had a very poor attitude.  I guess we will see how he does in KC with a full training camp but it’s obvious the Rams did not see him as a generational talent. 

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Posted (edited)

Doug traded up the one year the WR crop was full of good prospects... He did the wrong thing all the time.

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You never trade a 1st rd pick for a WR, Whaley was a idiot. I'm so glad he is gone, worst GM in Bills history.

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Compare that bad Sammy trade to this one: Rams give us a 2nd and EJ Gaines for a 6th and Sammy in order to target him 70 times (39 catches for 8 TDs and 593 yards) then lose him to free agency.

 

Makes our trade-up to get Sammy look positively brilliant.

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32 minutes ago, Norwood for Wall of Fame said:

Compare that bad Sammy trade to this one: Rams give us a 2nd and EJ Gaines for a 6th and Sammy in order to target him 70 times (39 catches for 8 TDs and 593 yards) then lose him to free agency.

 

Makes our trade-up to get Sammy look positively brilliant.

And what the Chiefs gave him makes the Rams look brilliant by not resigning him.  It's amazing how guys with pedigree of draft position get the benefit of the doubt, while guys who prove themselves constantly but were low picks or UDFA have to fight that stigma most of their early careers.  NFL Executives get way too much credit for being extremely mediocre to bad at their jobs - its all relative to the other guys that we judge them - NFL guys are not as bad as NBA execs, but they aren't impressive.  Doug Whaley is a good case in point, but the funny thing is he truly is a middle of the road NFL exec - there are much worse still employed all around the NFL.

 

I knew that the trade for Watkins was a dumb move at the time it was made, just like I knew drafting Manuel was ludicrous in the 1st round (especially after the Bills had sat on their hands for many, many years waiting for the right time to pick a QB).  Everyone who watched college ball and paid attention to the draft projections of WRs knew that Watkins' class was full of talent.  It was a high rated draft for both QB and WR prospects before the draft.   Watkins skill set was great for the college game because WR screens are way more effective in college and that was Sammy's bread and butter.  Although he is physically gifted, he isn't particularly big to withstand constant abuse in running those types of plays and he isn't a great route runner and isn't particularly good at positioning himself and adjusting to throws (not as good as the best WRs in the game - Brown and Evans are really good at this).  He wasn't asked to do these things much at Clemson and that was why I thought it was ridiculous that he was considered a top 5 pick over Evans (who I also thought was a risk because of his temper and attitude), but Evans was a better receiver in almost all aspects if you watched them both play, especially when it came to throws beyond the line of scrimmage.  I didn't think Beckham would be that good, but LSU QBs were pretty bad (and Mettenberger was atrocious at times until Cameron joined the staff) - he also went into a good situation with an established QB.

 

The Nix-Whaley team spent a ton of picks on WR and the best pick was Woods - but even a monkey throwing crap at the wall will hit the target if you throw enough crap at it - TJ Graham, Goodwin, Dez Lewis, traded pick for Mike Williams, Woods, Watkins (three picks).  All that and by the time the Whaley era ends - the Bills with Beane and McDermott traded Watkins and started over spending a 2nd on Zay Jones, a 3rd and 7th on Benjamin, and traded a Darby (a starting CB) for Jordan Matthews.  Jones, Benjamin and Matthews didn't play much as a unit, but the WRs weren't exactly lighting it up.  We'll see if Benjamin can recover from his injury and if Jones makes a big leap from last year, but the WR position is still very questionable. 

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Watkins should be power slammed through a burning table.

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