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The Final Verdict On The Sammy Watkins Draft Day Trade?

What is the final verdict on The Sammy Watkins Trade  

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  1. 1. What is the final verdict on The Sammy Watkins Trade

    • FAIL. Doug Whaley gave up too much and Sammy under delivered
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    • SUCCESS. It was a good trade. Sammy wasn't utilized properly
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Ok it's been a full 4 years since the epic draft day deal that sent 2 draft picks to Cleveland to select Florida WR stand out Samual Watkins IV with the 4th overall selection in 2014.  Bills GM Doug Whaley called Watkins a "generational talent" and when discussing the trade he said this:

 

We thought it was a win for us now. We're building our roster now, and granted, you hate giving up No. 1 picks, but what we thought he brings us now is worth giving up a low (No. 1) that we'll be giving up next year."  

 

And then, he walked it back and uttered a phrase which Bills fans will remember forever ""That's not a guarantee; I'm saying we expect it to be low," he said. "I'm a competitor, call me crazy, I like those odds."

 

But the question remains, what is the final verdict on Sammy Watkins?   Was he truly the "generational" talent as promised?  His numbers wouldn't indicate that he was but you can argue that there were serious reasons for that.  

 

 

So let's make the call about Sammy Watkins

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If only we had given him just 2 more years. The second coming of Julio Jones was waiting just around the corner.

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It's pretty clear at this point that trading up for him was a mistake. If we had the 4th overall to begin with and we took Sammy - even considering we'd have taken him before Mack - I would not call it a fail because Sammy was seen as a once-in-a-generation type prospect at the WR position. But the fact that we traded up and lost our next year's first to do it makes it a fail, because he was not the game breaker we were expecting. 

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Don't think it's a case so much of what Sammy did or didn't do, the damming part was so many other WR went lower that have turned out just as good.  We could have had one of them and given up much less. 

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1 minute ago, FearLess Price said:

Who did they draft with the pick we used to trade up  for Watkins with

 

The Browns jumped back up one spot and took Justin Gilbert. The Vikings picked Anthony Barr at #9.

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I still remember the night. Draft party at a local bills bar. Lots of shots. Ended up in the strip club. Probably the best part of that trade. Maybe I should send him the bill from that night 

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12 minutes ago, Big C said:

It's pretty clear at this point that trading up for him was a mistake. If we had the 4th overall to begin with and we took Sammy - even considering we'd have taken him before Mack - I would not call it a fail because Sammy was seen as a once-in-a-generation type prospect at the WR position. But the fact that we traded up and lost our next year's first to do it makes it a fail, because he was not the game breaker we were expecting. 

 

All good points that I tend to agree with.  You might be surprised at how many fans defend Whaley and his decisions to trade up for Sammy, in a very rich WR draft 

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The trade up to draft Sammy was bad, but not the disaster it could have been. Luckily for us we our 2015 1st ended up at 19th overall, and there really wasn't much left in a pretty weak draft class. 

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How does one make a farting noise on TBD?

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Only not horrible if you are comparing it to the Losman trade.

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27 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

Who did they draft with the pick we used to trade up  for Watkins with

Justin Gilbert and Cameron Erving

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1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

The only success is getting a second round pick; Winning!!

 

 

Thanks to Sean McDermott cleaning up a mess Doug Whaley created.  Though anytime you are critical of Whaley, at least a few Bills fans in general will defend him.  

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41 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

Ok it's been a full 5 years since the epic draft day deal that sent 2 draft picks to Cleveland to select Florida WR stand out Samual Watkins IV with the 4th overall selection in 2014.  Bills GM Doug Whaley called Watkins a "generational talent" and when discussing the trade he said this:

 

We thought it was a win for us now. We're building our roster now, and granted, you hate giving up No. 1 picks, but what we thought he brings us now is worth giving up a low (No. 1) that we'll be giving up next year."  

 

And then, he walked it back and uttered a phrase which Bills fans will remember forever ""That's not a guarantee; I'm saying we expect it to be low," he said. "I'm a competitor, call me crazy, I like those odds."

 

But the question remains, what is the final verdict on Sammy Watkins?   Was he truly the "generational" talent as promised?  His numbers wouldn't indicate that he was but you can argue that there were serious reasons for that.  

 

 

So let's make the call about Sammy Watkins

4 years ago BRO.

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8 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

4 years ago BRO.

Is it against the rules to talk about major events in team history, which arguably impact the modern day Bills?

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

Is it against the rules to talk about major events in team history, which arguably impact the modern day Bills?

It’s against the rules to get your math wrong.

 

Anything else I can help you with?

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46 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

Who did they draft with the pick we used to trade up  for Watkins with

 

How does that matter?

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11 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

It’s against the rules to get your math wrong.

 

Anything else I can help you with?

Gotcha...my bad

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Another in a litany of blown, wasted picks, by Whaley, and his mentor, Buddy F-ing Nix!

 

Nix passed on Russel Wilson, because, and I quote him addressing me on WGR, "we thought he was too short, and besides, we had Ryan, and he was our guy."

 

Just be glad the idiocy at One Bills Drive is gone, and we have real football minds in control.

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Posted (edited)

I don't think the idea of the trade itself was that bad, or that the compensation for the move up was unfair. It simply is the case that Sammy Watkins explosive ability displayed in college only translated to the NFL in short intervals. He has been a persistently injured player. Even when healthy, he didn't live up to his billing. That's the risk you take when you move up to select your guy instead of choosing from those that are available to you. Nobody would be complaining if he met the consensus expectations held by the NFL scouting community.

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