whatdrought Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:19 PM, Kirby Jackson said: To get a sense for their personality but most importantly to test their football knowledge on the whiteboard. Expand Right. But what I am saying is that (right or wrong) they chose to do that that way for a reason. On 3/8/2018 at 5:19 PM, Kirby Jackson said: They learned that they came across as a-holes as they’ve been getting destroyed publicly for about a week. Expand Yep. And if it is revealed who it was, they will likely pay for that question. On 3/8/2018 at 5:22 PM, CountDorkula said: Guice has an open and shut case if he wants to sue. The nfl has come out and said that it violated their conduct rules and was illegal. Expand Suing would be hard because it would have to violate anti-discrimination laws. If it's illegal in the leagues standard, the team is open to discipline.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:23 PM, whatdrought said: Right. But what I am saying is that (right or wrong) they chose to do that that way for a reason. Yep. And if it is revealed who it was, they will likely pay for that question. Expand Totally agree on all points. I think that this will be the last year for this line of questioning. I’ll be really surprised if it isn’t addressed. It’s putting yet another black eye on the NFL.
HappyDays Posted March 8, 2018 Author Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:19 PM, Chuck Wagon said: Even if it's only 1 team crossing the line, how is that ok? And why would you want to be that one team. If you want Guice when he hits FA, isn't that going to make it an uphill negotiation? Expand Well my point is if this is really such an important question, why does only one team ask it? That team is out of touch. I highly doubt it's the Bills, thankfully.
GunnerBill Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:18 PM, section122 said: It would be very interesting to see. If say Guice slips unexpectedly, or the team drafts a different player at the position that asked, or even if he felt like it played a role in his draft position, I wonder what the courts would decide if he chose to sue. It is illegal to make an employment choice based on numerous things including sexual orientation. Two years ago the NFL reminded its clubs in a memo that questions about sexual orientation are against league policy as well as employment discrimination laws. So seeing as teams were already told not to do it and it is illegal it seems like a slam dunk case. However it would be interesting to see it play out in the courts. Expand Good find section. As you say - that looks pretty open and shut. It is a breach of the competition rules and teams were warned it is prima facie unlawful. 1
LB3 Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) On 3/8/2018 at 5:17 PM, whatdrought said: Different approaches for different people. Obviously the questions that they asked him bothered him. They learned something because of that. Expand The Dan Patrick Show just played a clip of Guice talking about this. The interviewer asked what the weirdest questions he got. He laughed and answered and then went on to say teams ask questions like that to see if they can get a rise out of you. He seemed more amused than bothered by the questions. Edited March 8, 2018 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall
GunnerBill Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:19 PM, Chuck Wagon said: Even if it's only 1 team crossing the line, how is that ok? And why would you want to be that one team. If you want Guice when he hits FA, isn't that going to make it an uphill negotiation? Expand I think that is happy days point. Most teams know it's not okay which takes away the defense that this is "just how it works"
whatdrought Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:28 PM, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: The Dan Patrick Show just played a clip of Guise talking about this. The interviewer asked what the weirdest questions he got. He laughed and answered and then went on to say teams ask questions like that to see if they can get a rise out of you. He seemed more amused than bothered by the questions. Expand Okay, my bad. Thanks for the correction. Seems like the media is blowing it up in that case. Glad he played it off, not sure it's that big a deal, all things considered.
Jobot Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 3:39 PM, TheTruthHurts said: I think questions that are sensitive should be fair game. NFL players are public figures and will experience much worse as a player. How they respond should be important. Expand Well I'm sure there are NFL employers that would love to know this information, yet there are laws against discrimination... and this is definitely in violation.
Heitz Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 The NFLPA and the NFL itself are not too happy: NFLPA chief says team that asked about prospect's sexuality should be banned from combine http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/ct-spt-nfl-combine-player-sexuality-question-20180308-story.html
Kirby Jackson Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:31 PM, Heitz said: The NFLPA and the NFL itself are not too happy: NFLPA chief says team that asked about prospect's sexuality should be banned from combine http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/ct-spt-nfl-combine-player-sexuality-question-20180308-story.html Expand Didn’t take long... It is a terrible look for the NFL (especially in the current climate). The NFL is so out of touch. They are so reactionary.
LB3 Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) On 3/8/2018 at 5:29 PM, whatdrought said: Okay, my bad. Thanks for the correction. Seems like the media is blowing it up in that case. Glad he played it off, not sure it's that big a deal, all things considered. Expand Yeah. After reading this thread, I thought that Guice was pissed based off of everyone's reactions. Then on my lunch hour i heard the clip. People are just outraged on his behalf. He came off really laid back. Edited March 8, 2018 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall
nucci Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 4:45 PM, Toledo Bill said: When asked that question (homosexual) in the movie "Stripes"... Harold Ramis... "No, but we would be willing to learn". Expand Yeah, will they send us someplace special?
teef Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) On 3/8/2018 at 5:33 PM, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Yeah. After reading this thread, I thought that Guice was pissed based off of everyone's reactions. Then on my lunch hour i heard the clip. People are just outraged on his behalf. He came off really laid back. Expand that's the way to be. i wouldn't ask the question of anyone, but if someone asked me, i'd take it lightly, probably make a joke about it, and move on. i don't getting get up and walking out of the interview comments. just respond and move on. Edited March 8, 2018 by teef 1
whatdrought Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:36 PM, teef said: that's the way to be. i wouldn't ask the question of anyone, but if someone asked me, i'd take it lightly, probably make a joke about it, and move on. i don't getting up and walking out of the interview comments. just respond and move on. Expand Is "ask your mother" an appropriate response? 3
teef Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:37 PM, whatdrought said: Is "ask your mother" an appropriate response? Expand i would love that response.
row_33 Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 always fun to see the "sue first" and "blame the refs" crowd come out with their virtue-signaling up front
GoBills808 Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:36 PM, teef said: that's the way to be. i wouldn't ask the question of anyone, but if someone asked me, i'd take it lightly, probably make a joke about it, and move on. i don't getting up and walking out of the interview comments. just respond and move on. Expand That's ONE way to be. Another appropriate reaction would be to examine whether that question violated your civil rights and respond accordingly.
Misterbluesky Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:36 PM, teef said: if someone asked me, i'd take it lightly, probably make a joke about it, and move on. i don't getting up and walking out of the interview comments. just respond and move on. Expand Well...are you gay?
IDBillzFan Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 5:29 PM, whatdrought said: Seems like the media is blowing it up in that case. Glad he played it off, not sure it's that big a deal, all things considered. Expand It doesn't matter if Guice thinks it's a big deal. The sports media will run this because you must care as they do. (In fact, why do you still call the Redskins by their name, you offensive fool!) And then the rest of the media will play it up. And by tomorrow afternoon a team will be fined and have to issue an apology, followed by countless Michael Sam interviews, and before it's all done, the NFL will make the offending team wear rainbow colors for their Thursday Night Football Color Rush. Mark it.
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