BuffaloRush Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Listening to the John Murphy Show today and #89 is in the studio for Donald Jones. IMO he did a far superior job providing analysis and has a very good rapport with Murphy. I'd love it is Tasker could be a permanent fixture but I'm sure the job doesn't pay enough and I think Steve has job duties for CBS toward the end of the week. Tasker starts of the show with an idea that I thought was ridiculous at first but as he explained it - it made a lot of sense. He talks about how the Bills probably will move on from Tyrod and need to look for a replacement. He suggested Trevor Simian and said "has done some nice things in the NFL and is surprise guy" to which Murphy audibly groaned LOL....but then he starts talking about Josh McCown and says that McCown has stated many times that he wants to go into coaching. So given this information his solution is this: Sign McCown to a medium QB contract (1-3 years for around $10M per year) as a backup with incentives so if he starts, he'll be compensated as a starting QB. But he will be brought in as a backup and the Bills will play their young QB - whether it's Nate Peterman or a rookie QB they end up drafting (if they go that route). But McCown's deal is also incentivized for him to be a mentor/tutor to the young QB - essentially and active player/QB Coach. If the young QB plays well - McCown makes more money from his backup. He'd get paid when the QB he is mentoring plays well. Then if things go well for the QB protege - the coaching staff offers McCown a spot as a coach on the staff which would allow him the opportunity to bypass some of the bottom level positions needed to get a start in coaching. It's an interesting idea - because McCown would actually have an incentive to coach up a young QB. If he does that - he gets paid. If things go bad with the QB, he gets an opportunity to start and will be paid as a starter. Plus he has a spot on the staff as coach, which essentially guarantees he won't do something stupid like sabotage the rookie. It's an idea that makes a lot of sense. He believe there are a number of QB's that would fit this position, mentioned Simiam again, but it sounds like McCown would be the best option. Hear it for yourself - starting at around the 8 minute mark: http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/02-22-john-murphy-show-hr-1 Edited February 23, 2018 by BuffaloRush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, BuffaloRush said: Listening to the John Murphy Show today and #89 is in the studio for Donald Jones. IMO he did a far superior job providing analysis and has a very good rapport with Murphy. I'd love it is Tasker could be a permanent fixture but I'm sure the job doesn't pay enough and I think Steve has job duties for CBS toward the end of the week. Tasker starts of the show with an idea that I thought was ridiculous at first but as he explained it - it made a lot of sense. He talks about how the Bills probably will move on from Tyrod and need to look for a replacement. He suggested Trevor Simian and said "has done some nice things in the NFL and is surprise guy" to which Murphy audibly groaned LOL....but then he starts talking about Josh McCown and says that McCown has stated many times that he wants to go into coaching. So given this information his solution is this: Sign McCown to a medium QB contract (1-3 years for around $10M per year) as a backup with incentives so if he starts, he'll be compensated as a starting QB. But he will be brought in as a backup and the Bills will play their young QB - whether it's Nate Peterman or a rookie QB they end up drafting (if they go that route). But McCown's deal is also incentivized for him to be a mentor/tutor to the young QB - essentially and active player/QB Coach. If the young QB plays well - McCown makes more money from his backup. He'd get paid when the QB he is mentoring plays well. Then if things go well for the QB protege - the coaching staff offers McCown a spot as a coach on the staff which would allow him the opportunity to bypass some of the bottom level positions needed to get a start in coaching. It's an interesting idea - because McCown would actually have an incentive to coach up a young QB. If he does that - he gets paid. It's an idea that makes a lot of sense. He believe there are a number of QB's that would fit this position, mentioned Simiam again, but it sounds like McCown would be the best option. Hear it for yourself - starting at around the 8 minute mark: http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/02-22-john-murphy-show-hr-1 Steve Tasker is a horrible analyst and this only makes it more apparent. McCown has had a mostly horrid career and is injury prone. Peterman is barely an NFL prospect as backup. Siemian? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Steve Tasker is a horrible analyst and this only makes it more apparent. McCown has had a mostly horrid career and is injury prone. Peterman is barely an NFL prospect as backup. Siemian? So, you’re for it??? Don’t make us read the tea leaves! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: So, you’re for it??? Don’t make us read the tea leaves! Sorry for the ambiguity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Sorry for the ambiguity. I consider myself the winner - I didn’t even read what Steve had to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Augie said: I consider myself the winner - I didn’t even read what Steve had to say. I didn't listen to the show at all today with him on. Glad I didn't if this is indicative of his contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Steve Tasker is a horrible analyst and this only makes it more apparent. McCown has had a mostly horrid career and is injury prone. Peterman is barely an NFL prospect as backup. Siemian? Disagree with your thoughts on Tasker. As far as his work on CBS - he's average. Certainly not one of the best but he does ok. I used to think he purposefully tried to make it look like he was impartial by talking up whatever team the Bills were playing. On the John Murphy show - he is hands down better than Donald Jones. He makes the show sound more professional. His insight is good too - I think you are underestiming #89 here. As far as his idea - you can easily make an argument for or against it. I give him credit for approaching the situation differently than others 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdue Bill Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Sorry for the ambiguity. Aaagh...horrible idea. We would be better off sticking with Tyrod than bringing in a QB who is on his last legs. Everyone fantasizes over the next great "savior". Sometimes it is better to be patient...Draft a good prospect to go with Peterman and let those two sit behind Tyrod to get some experience. Edited February 23, 2018 by Overdue Bill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 If they are able to trade Tyrod I am not against getting McCown in a mentor role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Overdue Bill said: Aaagh...horrible idea. We would be better off sticking with Tyrod than bringing in a QB who is on his last legs. Everyone fantasizes over the next great "savior". Sometimes it is better to be patient...Draft a good prospect to go with Peterman and let those two sit behind Tyrod to get some experience. What constitutes a "good prospect?" Are you talking trading up for one of the big 4 or 5? Or taking a second-tier QB in rounds 2 and 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Disagree with your thoughts on Tasker. As far as his work on CBS - he's average. Certainly not one of the best but he does ok. I used to think he purposefully tried to make it look like he was impartial by talking up whatever team the Bills were playing. On the John Murphy show - he is hands down better than Donald Jones. He makes the show sound more professional. His insight is good too - I think you are underestiming #89 here. As far as his idea - you can easily make an argument for or against it. I give him credit for approaching the situation differently than others Tasker is on the CBS F team year after year for a reason. He mostly babbles and makes obvious points while he talks in circles. If that's your idea of professional, then have at it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Tasker is on the CBS F team year after year for a reason. He mostly babbles and makes obvious points while he talks in circles. If that's your idea of professional, then have at it. Right - He's not on the F team. He's actually on their 3rd or 4th team and I believe they wanted him as a sideline reporter for the playoff games. Regardless, I said his work at CBS is average and nothing amazing. But he's not as bad as you make him out to be. I'm guessing you don't listen to John Murphy Show. If you did - you'd notice what an improvement he is from Donald Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Right - He's not on the F team. He's actually on their 3rd or 4th team and I believe they wanted him as a sideline reporter for the playoff games. Regardless, I said his work at CBS is average and nothing amazing. But he's not as bad as you make him out to be. I'm guessing you don't listen to John Murphy Show. If you did - you'd notice what an improvement he is from Donald Jones That's a low bar to clear and doesn't mean much to me. Tom McCarthy and Tasker are the G team. Even worse. Here is the complete least of announcer pairings: Jim Nantz, Tony Romo and Tracy Wolfson Ian Eagle, Dan Fouts and Evan Washburn Greg Gumbel, Trent Green and Jamie Erdahl Kevin Harlan and Rich Gannon Andrew Catalon and James Lofton Spero Dedes and Adam Archuleta Tom McCarthy and Steve Tasker and Steve Beuerlein Beth Mowins and Jay Feely Edited February 23, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I enjoy Romo, occasionally listen to Collinsworth and generally manage to not hear the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: I enjoy Romo, occasionally listen to Collinsworth and generally manage to not hear the rest. I really like Romo - but Collinsworth is absolutely brutal for me. He's one of the worst IMO. It was on full display at the Super Bowl - I loved how he was beside himself that Pederson took chances on 4th down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloRush said: I really like Romo - but Collinsworth is absolutely brutal for me. He's one of the worst IMO. It was on full display at the Super Bowl - I loved how he was beside himself that Pederson took chances on 4th down. I like guys who call out when people are stupid, refs or coaches. As I said, I listen very little so I may miss some idiot talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Ok. So here's maybe a better idea. Instead of paying a QB $10 million dollars (much of which I'm guessing would count against the cap) to be a QB coach and possible part time player... How about we just hire a real QB coach? One with some...I don't know EXPERIENCE working with QBs and not WRs? Maybe that's the best kind of guy to mentor a young QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 When Collinsworth is on I mute the tv and give my 5 year old control of Alexa. Taylor Swift and JoJo Siwa are much easier to listen to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I heard Tasker had moved to Chicago, true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: I heard Tasker had moved to Chicago, true ? I don't think so - he seems to be in Buffalo all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Steve's taken too many hits to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 i heard a portion of it on my way to UPS to drop something off. these idiots said we should sign JOSH MCCOWN and we should stay at 20 and see who falls to us and just take them and see what happens. yea, let's put the future of our team in the hands of 39 yr old Josh McCown and whatever leftover QB is available after everyone else gets their franchise QB. great plan guys! Tasker is a former player and doesn't want to admit that if the Bills didn't have Jim Kelly nobody would know who the crap Steve Tasker is. Also Andre Reed wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame and Tasker wouldn't be mentioned as a possible future HOF'er. The only reason anyone has ever heard of these guys is because of what Kelly did in leading them to the Super Bowls all of those years. Look at Andre Reed's stats and tell me he deserves to be in the HOF if it weren't for the postseason and Super Bowl stats. QB is the most important position in ALL OF SPORTS. you really aren't going to make it a priority because you need a new LB or a DT? give me a break 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Riddle me this rush — why don’t we just roll with QBs that don’t intentionally sabotage each other but are highly competitive and then go ahead and hire a great qb coach? seems like a more straightforward plan than signing a qb and paying him to coach up the rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Someone should tell Steve we didn't draft Eric Flowers and Kyle Williams in the same draft. John McCargo was the 1st round DT when we took Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 If our QB situation is Josh McCown or Trevor Simiean + Nate Peterman I don't think I'll watch any games next year. True story. But how exciting, we got 2 defensive players in the 1st round that will eventually be traded away in 3 yrs when we get new coaches and change our scheme. Derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I think McCown would be a great fit if we drafted a 1st round QB. McCown was much better than Tyrod last year imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I love how McCown gets a participation ribbon for 5 wins this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 39 minutes ago, kdiggz said: i heard a portion of it on my way to UPS to drop something off. these idiots said we should sign JOSH MCCOWN and we should stay at 20 and see who falls to us and just take them and see what happens. yea, let's put the future of our team in the hands of 39 yr old Josh McCown and whatever leftover QB is available after everyone else gets their franchise QB. great plan guys! Tasker is a former player and doesn't want to admit that if the Bills didn't have Jim Kelly nobody would know who the crap Steve Tasker is. Also Andre Reed wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame and Tasker wouldn't be mentioned as a possible future HOF'er. The only reason anyone has ever heard of these guys is because of what Kelly did in leading them to the Super Bowls all of those years. Look at Andre Reed's stats and tell me he deserves to be in the HOF if it weren't for the postseason and Super Bowl stats. QB is the most important position in ALL OF SPORTS. you really aren't going to make it a priority because you need a new LB or a DT? give me a break So you are spot about QB But I will say, Tasker would be all for the Bills moving up and drafting a QB. It was Murphy who wanted them to stay at 21 and 22 and draft the best player available. He did not want a trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 It is an option to keep on the table. Obviously, if the Bills want a top QB in this draft (in which Mike Mayock says there is no top QB) they are going to have to give up draft picks to get there. The alternative is to plan on a veteran starting in 2018.There are a bunch of veterans who will be playing for new teams next season, but there will also be teams throwing money at several of them. I don't necessarily think that Josh McCown should be their top target, but it is a reasonable option if Buffalo is unable to sign one of the higher priced veterans. Backup QBs do tend to make solid coaches too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: So you are spot about QB But I will say, Tasker would be all for the Bills moving up and drafting a QB. It was Murphy who wanted them to stay at 21 and 22 and draft the best player available. He did not want a trade. Thanks. Murph gets on my nerves. He is such a homer. Everything the Bills do is amazing. Yea John, that's why we have been a .500 team for my entire adult life and have a different coaching staff every 3 years. Get a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Thanks. Murph gets on my nerves. He is such a homer. Everything the Bills do is amazing. Yea John, that's why we have been a .500 team for my entire adult life and have a different coaching staff every 3 years. Get a clue You are 100% correct about John Murphy being a homer. He is being paid by the Bills to be just that and his conservative way of thinking is exactly the reason that the Bills missed the playoffs for 17 years because the Bills front offices of the past thought this way too. Sometimes if you need something important like a QB you have to go out there and get one. You cant just sit back and wait to see if something good will happen because you afraid things will go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffahoper Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Nathan Peterman represents some of the worst NFL production in recent history, he is Jeff Tuel level, not even Levi Brown level. I shall bronze my hand and let it smack my forehead if he ever becomes more than a clipboard holder for the Buffalo Bills... McProcess needs a total purge, or less dramatic, mostly wholly new bodies. I love Tyrod. I think Tyrod is an athlete of the best kind, a la LeSean.. But that combo on the ground gets NFL defenses predicting right too often. Buh-Bye. My thought is that this FO should get over finding Brady in the sixth round and just start getting fellas who work. Kirk works, the man does his job.Foles already has a scheme, work that shiz.. Sam works, but the man is made of paper, so is Teddy. Case is unknown, McCarron is unknown, and all the rest of these young guys are complete guesses, pick one (done). Maybe we pick Lamar at 21, or Mayfield... who gives a darn. Lets exchange Peterman with Tyler Bray. The man is just as useless as an NFL QB, probably a ****-ty clipboard holder, but he can huck the rock. Get another useless guy that can bomb it downfield, and train him... The NFL is a bunch of stupid refs that call PI every chance they get, just keep doing that instead of going 3 and out. Now I am a successful Head Coach, and I'm worth millions. Goood Day Buffalonians! Your next QB is named Chad Kelly, and he is a gunslinger, a regular Joe, and a savior...... Hey .. listen to me, I'm an armchair GM.. And my vision is worth a hell of a lot more than Rex Ryan's, Doug Whaley's, and Buddy Nix combined. And yes, I believe that Baker could set records as Bills QB. Sit Pretty and draft your slots Buffalo... Now back to my whiskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Here's the thing. I actually really like the "outside the box" idea of a high-value QB2 when you have an uncertain QB1. This has been one of the most maddening things about the Bills QB carousel — when EJ struggled, we had no other viable option (until we brought in Orton for that one season). When Tyrod struggled, we had no other viable option. When Tyrod was not getting it done, would've rather seen a bit more experienced coming into games like Ryan Fitzpatrick/Brian Hoyer type at QB instead of throwing Nate "i won the chance to QB for a day" Peterman to the wolves. If you're not certain about QB1, you'd better invest in a solid QB2. Seems obvious and yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I think McCown would be an a good bridge and a better fit for this offense.I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I hate the Simeon idea, but McKown makes sense. If we draft someone, I like the veteran for a back up, and keep three with Peterman. As far as Tasker on the show, i’d Love it even if just a couple days a week that wouldn’t conflict with CBS. Local radio show hosts don’t make a ton, but hopefully enough for him to be a part time host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 The Bills already have a QB coach , the last thing I want is McCowen coaching up some rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahbonas Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Tasker is on the CBS F team year after year for a reason. He mostly babbles and makes obvious points while he talks in circles. If that's your idea of professional, then have at it. Tasker is the king of saying nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Loved Tasker as a player. As an analyst/broadcaster he's absolutely terrible. His take is pretty absurd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: The Bills already have a QB coach , the last thing I want is McCowen coaching up some rookie Except the Bills DON'T have a QB coach. They have a WR coach running around with the QB coach title. Not the best person to mold up a rookie QB we will likely be investing heavily in. McCown is extremely well thought of as a future QB coach. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/Report-Browns-offered-QB-coach-job-to-Josh-McCown-112387469 https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/jets-josh-mccown-coach-1.15456058 Edited February 23, 2018 by KelsaysLunchbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's a low bar to clear and doesn't mean much to me. Tom McCarthy and Tasker are the G team. Even worse. Here is the complete least of announcer pairings: Jim Nantz, Tony Romo and Tracy Wolfson Ian Eagle, Dan Fouts and Evan Washburn Greg Gumbel, Trent Green and Jamie Erdahl Kevin Harlan and Rich Gannon Andrew Catalon and James Lofton Spero Dedes and Adam Archuleta Tom McCarthy and Steve Tasker and Steve Beuerlein Beth Mowins and Jay Feely Do you think we could get Steve Beuerlein to play QB?? He's got about as much left in the tank that McCown does, and has a lot of veteran knowledge!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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