26CornerBlitz Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 An offering from CBS Sports. Agent’s Take: 10 players under contract who could be on new teams next seasonJob security in the NFL isn't as great as it is in the NBA and MLB because player contracts aren't fully guaranteed as they are in those sports. NFL players are released and occasionally traded every offseason because their performances aren't deemed to measure up to their pay.Here's a look at 10 players who could be in different uniforms next season because of their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) On 2/13/2018 at 5:29 PM, Binghamton Beast said: I think it’s time to say goodbye to LorAx. Better a year too early than a year too late. That axiom is more about expensive, key personnel than guys who might save you $2M if you cut them($3.5 - .8 dead - replacement salary). He was the Bills best defender in the wildcard game and played out of position all season..........they may cut him for all I know but IMO he's plenty of pass rusher for a little over $2M in cap room. Edited February 16, 2018 by BADOLBILZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Freddie's Dead Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 2:31 PM, Mr. WEO said: I was thinking Ray Carruth, but then I remembered he was in the NFC.... You blew the joke when you misspelled Rae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: You blew the joke when you misspelled Rae. not on you I didn't.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 2:31 PM, Mr. WEO said: I was thinking Ray Carruth, but then I remembered he was in the NFC.... His name is Rae. 16 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: That axiom is more about expensive, key personnel than guys who might save you $2M if you cut them($3.5 - .8 dead - replacement salary). He was the Bills best defender in the wildcard game and played out of position all season..........they may cut him for all I know but IMO he's plenty of pass rusher for a little over $2M in cap room. and with Wood gone one of the few locker room leaders we have left, I'm sure we'll keep him but wouldn't be shocked to see a decrease in playing time on 1st and 2nd downs this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) On 2/13/2018 at 2:55 PM, White Linen said: Tyrod isn't a bridge QB though and you certainly don't want any young QB to be groomed by him. That's not his game. He's a tough athletic freak that figures out a way to play NFL QB despite having little idea how to technically play the position. WR's, TE's and O lineman don't learn how to play their position better when he's under center. Yes, TT likely has minimal ability to be a great teacher to a young pocket passer. Besides, the entire “grooming a starter” thing is vastly overrated imo. Very few elite QB’s have had the chance to sit behind great QB’s early in their careers. There is a reason you get drafted highly as a QB. Chances are you either get thrown into the fire, or sit behind a bum QB prior to being called upon to start. What can a mediocre QB offer to a young starter? I don’t doubt the importance of a veteran player to share their knowledge, but these guys can be found a dime a dozen. There is no need to keep a specific QB to groom the future starter. Grooming a starter is great when you have a franchise QB. The rest of us need to have our rookie QB ready to play immediately. Edited February 17, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 12:14 PM, K-9 said: Right, his body of work will determine his value for whatever team signs him and for whatever they choose to sign him for, he regardless how much or how little that value ends up being. He and his agent were given permission to “go to the market” last year before they decided to take the Bills’ new deal. That spoke volumes at the time. I’m interested to see how much league perception has shifted since. How did Mike Glennon's body of work command 18m or whatever he got? How did Rob Johnson's body of work command 25m twenty years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 12:16 PM, Fadingpain said: I have mentioned this fact 100 times on this forum, but a lot of folks don't seem to remember that little point. Show me 10 Tyrod Taylor fans and I will show you 10 Buffalo Bills fans. I think it’s more the opposite. Show me 10 Tyrod Taylor fans and I will show you 10 fans that don’t watch any Bills games, just highlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I'd be all over Juwan James if MIA lets him go. He's good just overpaid. Robert Quinn would be amazing. Tavon Austin on the cheap could be fun. If we cut Hughes, which I think could be possible given his salary, I could see either Micheal or Charles Johnson here as a stop gap at DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 12 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: How did Mike Glennon's body of work command 18m or whatever he got? How did Rob Johnson's body of work command 25m twenty years ago? That’s just it, isn’t it? A player’s value is solely in the eye of the beholder. There is little rhyme or reason it seems. I think a lot of it has to do with sheer desperation to fill the most important position in sports. Often, a small sample size can work to a player’s advantage, too; not enough examples of crappy play to dissuade a team from making rash decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 12:30 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: That might just be because the media beyond Buffalo does not pay close attention. Maybe the media just notices wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Maybe the media just notices wins? What does that say? That they don’t pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 1:58 PM, billsfan_34 said: Hey 26, I know this has been discussed but I am going to go on the record now. - I dont want to over pay for a FA QB- Cousins worries me when the game is on the line - Keeping TT and drafting our guy makes much more sense to me. Let a rook sit a year and learn. Heck, and if he beats out TT so be it, then we have a solid 2 while Peterman develops into a 2. - We have a ton of holes, I would rather sit tight at 21 and take the best QB available wether it is Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph. Use the rest of our picks for the many holes we have and we all know what they are. Go Bills odds are good that peterman beats out tyrod in camp so save the 18 mil. On 2/13/2018 at 1:58 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: I believe Alexander will be around for 2018. i hope so and i think he'll do a team friendly deal. if not, i hope he retires and takes donald jone's spot on wgr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, billsredneck1 said: odds are good that peterman beats out tyrod in camp so save the 18 mil. That’s if TT makes to past “June1”” cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 2:21 PM, LABILLBACKER said: TT has absolutely no NFL value to any other team other than as a backup. Last year his agent looked and found no interest. The only way I'd agree to keep Tyrod as a 2 yr bridge qb would be for him to agree to 14M and groom our 1st round qb @ 21. i totally am against tyrod as a bridge. you can't run an offense based on tyrod's skills or lack thereof when your new qb needs to learn a completely different system. just a waste of money and time. On 2/15/2018 at 9:38 AM, MDFan said: It is a two year deal and not big money. He still has great value as a situational player, special teamer, and locker room leader. Not going anywhere. didn't know that. i too thought he was ufa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: That’s if TT makes to past “June1”” cuts true, i don't see him making it to draft day. something being trade or release will be made sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 1:45 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Tyrod Taylor, DeMarco Murray among AFC cut candidatesKirk Cousins is the belle of the free-agency ball. Alex Smith already found his new team. And the trio of Vikings quarterbacks set to hit free agency are being discussed to death -- all of which leaves Tyrod Tayloras the forgotten man in this offseason's quarterback puzzle.That's largely because Taylor is a member of the Buffalo Bills, at least for now. Taylor is one of the big names on my annual list of veterans who could be released before the start of free agency. Last year's listincluded a few future Hall of Famers and the Super Bowl LII MVP. Below is a quick look at some of the AFC names on the bubble that could become available in free agency this year.Strong Candidates for Release1) Tyrod Taylor, QB, Buffalo Bills: Taylor accepted a restructured contract to remain the Bills' starter last offseason. He's not playing that game this time around, so the Bills will have to either use $18 million in cap room on Taylor or set him free. I believe Taylor is worth that money as a mid-level starter, but it will be tough for the Bills to attract anything more than a late-round pick for Taylor in a potential trade after they benched him for rookie Nathan Peterman ahead of a Week 11 game against the Chargers. Taylor's 2018 status was all but written that day in Los Angeles, despite the fact that he was quickly reinstated as the starter and helped Buffalo end its long playoff drought. On the Bubble 3) Lorenzo Alexander, LB, Buffalo Bills: A fantastic story as a Pro Bowler in 2016, Alexander -- who will turn 35 in May -- came back to Earth last season. I’m not a Taylor hater, but the indignation that some of these national reporters express about Taylor’s benching is waaaaay over the top. In the 2 games right after his benching he threw for 164 yards and 0 TDS against KC and then 85 (eighty-five) yards against NE. Keep in mind that the much-maligned Peterman managed 92 yards and 2 TDS in a blinding snowstorm the next week. That doesn’t scream mid-level starter to me. I don’t think there will be a great bidding war for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said: true, i don't see him making it to draft day. something being trade or release will be made sooner. That’s why the “ “ s. He can be labeled a that but be gone earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 1:58 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: I believe Alexander will be around for 2018. Great locker room guy,but let's face the facts..he is only worthy of a back up role now..if that.His "let's go out and kick some ***" train of thought is awesome for sure. .but his legs are telling him otherwise..he is slow now and became a liability starting with the road night game at the jets and vs the saints..jmho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: Great locker room guy,but let's face the facts..he is only worthy of a back up role now..if that.His "let's go out and kick some ***" train of thought is awesome for sure. .but his legs are telling him otherwise..he is slow now and became a liability starting with the road night game at the jets and vs the saints..jmho Disagree. He was used in the proper role as an edge rusher late in the leason and looked great in the playoff game. That's how he's expected to be utilized in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Disagree. He was used in the proper role as an edge rusher late in the leason and looked great in the playoff game. That's how he's expected to be utilized in 2018. That's a mistake in coaching the position..why would you play him in the edge behind hughes? Alexander tried to lay off many,many times last year to cover a RB coming out on a expected pattern and he couldn't adapt.A upgraded is needed there..he does not display the role of a pure olb.The game is to quick for his style of play..face the facts..he is most likely gone. McD wants a tough in your face take no prisoners defense and he will get his way.OLB's should be your toughest,strongest and some of the most athletic players on the roster..Alexander no longer fits that mold. Edited February 18, 2018 by Misterbluesky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 5 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: odds are good that peterman beats out tyrod in camp so save the 18 mil. i hope so and i think he'll do a team friendly deal. if not, i hope he retires and takes donald jone's spot on wgr. Peterman isnt ready, not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gugny Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/17/2018 at 10:38 PM, billsfan_34 said: Peterman isnt ready, not even close. That's what many said about Goff, after the Rams WISELY let him play a full season. Unfortunately, we didn't do that with Peterman, so no one really knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Gugny said: That's what many said about Goff, after the Rams WISELY let him play a full season. Unfortunately, we didn't do that with Peterman, so no one really knows. Peterman isn’t Goff, not even close. This kid has a very long way to go and it starts by riding the pine and getting reps in practice. He cant read an NFL defense and his arm is just adequate. When the Bills grab a QB thru the draft or FA or both and if they keep TT Peterman may be the odd man out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Peterman isn’t Goff, not even close. This kid has a very long way to go and it starts by riding the pine and getting reps in practice. He cant read an NFL defense and his arm is just adequate. When the Bills grab a QB thru the draft or FA or both and if they keep TT Peterman may be the odd man out. How do you know any of this? He played 30 minutes of totally unprepared football against a solid defense who ate him alive; then played a game in 8 feet of snow. No one knows how good or bad he is. Nobody. Because we'd rather end a drought for nothing than evaluate the one QB who will be on the team next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Gugny said: How do you know any of this? He played 30 minutes of totally unprepared football against a solid defense who ate him alive; then played a game in 8 feet of snow. No one knows how good or bad he is. Nobody. Because we'd rather end a drought for nothing than evaluate the one QB who will be on the team next year. It is his job to be prepared which he was not. 5 picks in one half- puke Chad Pennington type arm in Buffalo doesnt work it wasnt 8 feet of snow lol I was there but it was crummy nonetheless I hope he proves me wrong I really do but doubt it. There is a reason why the Bills are heavy in the QB hunt right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: It is his job to be prepared which he was not. 5 picks in one half- puke it wasnt 8 feet of snow lol I was there but it was crummy nonetheless I hope he proves me wrong I really do but doubt it. There is a reason why the Bills are heavy in the QB hunt right now. Did you hear the post game presser from the Chargers D? “The guy didn’t even try to block me”. Nate was bad as well as the Oline that game, as well as tbe Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: It is his job to be prepared which he was not. 5 picks in one half- puke Chad Pennington type arm in Buffalo doesnt work it wasnt 8 feet of snow lol I was there but it was crummy nonetheless I hope he proves me wrong I really do but doubt it. There is a reason why the Bills are heavy in the QB hunt right now. You owe an apology to Chad Pennington's arm. Edited February 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 8: Inches of snow that fell between 12 noon and 4:00 pm during Sunday's Bills-Colts game. 16: The approximate number of inches of snow that fell throughout the day and night in Orchard Park on Sunday. 15 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: wasnt 8 feet of snow lol I was there but it was crummy nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: 8: Inches of snow that fell between 12 noon and 4:00 pm during Sunday's Bills-Colts game. 16: The approximate number of inches of snow that fell throughout the day and night in Orchard Park on Sunday. Ya I was there 42 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Did you hear the post game presser from the Chargers D? “The guy didn’t even try to block me”. Nate was bad as well as the Oline that game, as well as tbe Defense. Yeah, that accounts for all 5 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 This has been difficult discussed. 3 for sure 2 were bobbled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 1:58 PM, billsfan_34 said: Hey 26, I know this has been discussed but I am going to go on the record now. - I dont want to over pay for a FA QB- Cousins worries me when the game is on the line - Keeping TT and drafting our guy makes much more sense to me. Let a rook sit a year and learn. Heck, and if he beats out TT so be it, then we have a solid 2 while Peterman develops into a 2. - We have a ton of holes, I would rather sit tight at 21 and take the best QB available wether it is Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph. Use the rest of our picks for the many holes we have and we all know what they are. Go Bills I'm sorry but I so, so hate this thinking, "sitting tight" to get what likely is a worse QB for some other meaningless position like LB or CB that won't help the bills in the least is dumb, Taylor was a completely terrible QB last season and you're letting down ever other player if you don't upgrade away from him. The only answer to the 2018 draft is spend as many assets as you need to get the QB you think will be the most successful and start him on day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/17/2018 at 5:46 PM, OldTimer1960 said: I’m not a Taylor hater, but the indignation that some of these national reporters express about Taylor’s benching is waaaaay over the top. In the 2 games right after his benching he threw for 164 yards and 0 TDS against KC and then 85 (eighty-five) yards against NE. Keep in mind that the much-maligned Peterman managed 92 yards and 2 TDS in a blinding snowstorm the next week. That doesn’t scream mid-level starter to me. I don’t think there will be a great bidding war for him. First off........your stats are wrong......Peterman was 5 of 10 for 50 yards and threw 1 TD and had 1 fumble in the Colts game and failed to finish the game(again).........it was the Colts.......almost inarguably the least talented team in the entire NFL........a dome team on the road in the snow. KC and NE were actual playoff teams.........Taylor won the game on the road in KC.........and kept the Bills in the game against the would-be AFC champions for 3 quarters in Foxboro. Peterphiles would have been going insane with excitement if they got that kind of performance from Nate.......and lamenting the overturned TD pass to Benjamin. Bottom line........Taylor was solid in those two games........which was what they needed.........that well managed KC win absolutely salvaged McD from a mountain of criticism that could have undermined his future in Buffalo after the debacle in Los Angeles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 3 hours ago, greeneblitz said: I'm sorry but I so, so hate this thinking, "sitting tight" to get what likely is a worse QB for some other meaningless position like LB or CB that won't help the bills in the least is dumb, Taylor was a completely terrible QB last season and you're letting down ever other player if you don't upgrade away from him. The only answer to the 2018 draft is spend as many assets as you need to get the QB you think will be the most successful and start him on day one. Cool, the only position that matters now is QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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