Chicken Boo 430 Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) Please tell me what anyone has seen from Beane/McDermott thus far that makes them believe they will draft a 6' QB with maturity issues? Let alone, moving up to grab him. Ain't happening! Edited February 9, 2018 by Chicken Boo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4merper4mer 1,126 Posted February 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Zebrastripes said: I don't get why everybody says Johnny Manziel 2.0 in terms of Mayfield. The only thing they have in common is their height. And punkishness. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColdFront_USAF 121 Posted February 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Bring it said: Imo we won’t need to move up to draft Mayfield! I wish you were right, but I can't see how that happens. Drafting before us, the Browns, Giants, Broncos, Jets, and Cardinals are likely drafting qbs. That's 5 teams right there. There's also the questionable teams, like the Colts if they move on from Luck, and I wouldn't be entirely shocked to see the Dolphins grab one, or the Redskins to have someone to groom behind Smith. One team will get Cousins, and if the Colts decide to move Luck someone would grab him. Thats potentially 6-7 teams. Obviously I don't think there will be 7 qbs taken in the first round, but the lowest I've seen Mayfield ranked is 4th, behind Darnald Rosen and Allen. If even half of qb needy teams take one, Mayfield will absolutely be gone before 21. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay_Fixit 1,209 Posted February 9, 2018 If this was top 3 spots, sure, I’d consider it something. But this guy is talking about 1/3 of the league. Top 10 spots.. Hell even SaviorPeterman could do that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Batman1876 432 Posted February 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: And punkishness. Manziel was always flashing his money sign bragging about his success and violating NCAA rules for monetary gain. When Mayfield brags it’s that his team will beat or just beat your team. One is focused on individual success the other is focused on the team. One is the kind of guy who would celebrate throwing for 300 and 3 TDS even if his team lost, the other is only celebrating a win. One got drunk and in trouble a single time (pretty common for college kids)and his friends say he is a homebody the other got in trouble with the law lots of times and was always at the club or a casino, and needed to go to rehab for his substance problems. The concerns are are only the slightest bit similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4merper4mer 1,126 Posted February 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: Manziel was always flashing his money sign bragging about his success and violating NCAA rules for monetary gain. When Mayfield brags it’s that his team will beat or just beat your team. One is focused on individual success the other is focused on the team. One is the kind of guy who would celebrate throwing for 300 and 3 TDS even if his team lost, the other is only celebrating a win. One got drunk and in trouble a single time (pretty common for college kids)and his friends say he is a homebody the other got in trouble with the law lots of times and was always at the club or a casino, and needed to go to rehab for his substance problems. The concerns are are only the slightest bit similar. Didn't he fire a football at someone's head in a pregame? he isn't on Maziel's level but he is a punk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Batman1876 432 Posted February 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Didn't he fire a football at someone's head in a pregame? he isn't on Maziel's level but he is a punk. No doubt but he does not seem like the type to get suspended or derail his career partying. He’ll need to tone it down in the NFL. I think it comes down to the fact that he’s super compedative and it comes out in immature ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4merper4mer 1,126 Posted February 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Batman1876 said: No doubt but he does not seem like the type to get suspended or derail his career partying. He’ll need to tone it down in the NFL. I think it comes down to the fact that he’s super compedative and it comes out in immature ways. I think that is about it. I can see him growing out of it, but the sooner the better. No pun intended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnBonhamRocks 522 Posted February 9, 2018 He should go undrafted because he tweeted to a HS commit for Texas... Actually though, trade up to #3 and guarantee one of Rosen/Darnold/Mayfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Domdab99 1,509 Posted February 9, 2018 or, "let me name 10 teams that need a QB so I can get more clicks." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yungmack 233 Posted February 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Ittakestime said: The guy is going top 6. It's not even a debate. Overall or among QBs? 1 hour ago, The_Dude said: Bro, are you for serious? You think Baker Mayfield falls to 21?! Bro, at the latest he’s gone at 6. He’s very much in the mix for #1 overall. Mrs. Mayfield, you are deranged. But you are a loyal mom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zebrastripes 211 Posted February 9, 2018 If Mayfield were a couple inches taller I think there would be a legit debate about him going first overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John from Riverside 3,053 Posted February 9, 2018 3 hours ago, horned dogs said: He'll be gone in the Top 7 picks. If he makes it to 10 I will be shocked but it would cost a lot less to move up to that area of the draft then it would be to move to 2 or 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulus 422 Posted February 9, 2018 Lmao, top ten all-time worst off season articles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MJS 1,414 Posted February 9, 2018 If he is still there at 10, I think the Bills should trade up and get him. 2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Please tell me what anyone has seen from Beane/McDermott thus far that makes them believe they will draft a 6' QB with maturity issues? Let alone, moving up to grab him. Ain't happening! You have a point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NastyNateSoldiers 121 Posted February 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Zebrastripes said: If Mayfield were a couple inches taller I think there would be a legit debate about him going first overall. There already debating this in Cleveland. He ain't passing the Jets at #6. Most if not all draft experts have been pretty consistent talking about Mayfield skills on the field. He's actually across the board the beat QB in this class. We hear bout Darnold mechanics, Rosen can't handle pressure, Allen he's a project but Mayfield they talk bout height but we all know he can see he was that ability that other great short QBs have like Brees or Russ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffaloboyinATL 820 Posted February 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Domdab99 said: or, "let me name 10 teams that need a QB so I can get more clicks." Yeah, way to go out on a limb and name 1/3 of the league, most of whom draft early in round one and need QB’s. #journalism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRONG JOSH 2,340 Posted February 9, 2018 he will be really good...in the XFL. him vs Johnny Football in the championship in 2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dneveu 326 Posted February 9, 2018 10 hours ago, ColdFront_USAF said: I wish you were right, but I can't see how that happens. Drafting before us, the Browns, Giants, Broncos, Jets, and Cardinals are likely drafting qbs. That's 5 teams right there. There's also the questionable teams, like the Colts if they move on from Luck, and I wouldn't be entirely shocked to see the Dolphins grab one, or the Redskins to have someone to groom behind Smith. One team will get Cousins, and if the Colts decide to move Luck someone would grab him. Thats potentially 6-7 teams. Obviously I don't think there will be 7 qbs taken in the first round, but the lowest I've seen Mayfield ranked is 4th, behind Darnald Rosen and Allen. If even half of qb needy teams take one, Mayfield will absolutely be gone before 21. Cousins goes to one of them. Giants may not draft one, as they could love barkley, or trade down to address other holes (terrible O-line). Cardinals pick at 15, which is much easier to jump than 5 or whatever - and they also have tons of holes and are a solid candidate to bottom out. There's also Bradford, Keenum, Bridgewater, McCarron available. As well as Allen, Jackson, Rosen, and Darnold. There's always a chance he falls more than people think. He's a tad over 6', which will turn some people off. He's had some issues. I don't think we're willing to trade up to like 2 or 3, but i think like 9, or 10 might be in play if we like a certain guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billsredneck1 572 Posted February 9, 2018 we have to get in front of the jets if we want him....period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring it 83 Posted February 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Zebrastripes said: If Mayfield were a couple inches taller I think there would be a legit debate about him going first overall. Definetly! His accuracy is very good. Watch his tape not just highlights. He routinely hits receivers in stride. But, he isn’t taller. If he makes it past pick 10 and I feel he might then he is going to fall probably all the way to us!! Along with a huge chip on his shoulder to add to the one already there! I also would add that he has plenty of arm strength too. When he sets he can drive the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dneveu 326 Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bring it said: Definetly! His accuracy is very good. Watch his tape not just highlights. He routinely hits receivers in stride. But, he isn’t taller. If he makes it past pick 10 and I feel he might then he is going to fall probably all the way to us!! Along with a huge chip on his shoulder to add to the one already there! I also would add that he has plenty of arm strength too. When he sets he can drive the ball. I think if he makes it past 6, he's got to be at least in play. Depends who they like though. 21+22 for pick 9 with SF might do it. Edited February 9, 2018 by dneveu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring it 83 Posted February 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, dneveu said: Cousins goes to one of them. Giants may not draft one, as they could love barkley, or trade down to address other holes (terrible O-line). Cardinals pick at 15, which is much easier to jump than 5 or whatever - and they also have tons of holes and are a solid candidate to bottom out. There's also Bradford, Keenum, Bridgewater, McCarron available. As well as Allen, Jackson, Rosen, and Darnold. There's always a chance he falls more than people think. He's a tad over 6', which will turn some people off. He's had some issues. I don't think we're willing to trade up to like 2 or 3, but i think like 9, or 10 might be in play if we like a certain guy. I’m also thinking that Foles might be available too. Will Philly really keep him and Wentz? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hindsight 359 Posted February 9, 2018 11 hours ago, somnus00 said: I'm having trouble seeing what so many like about Mayfield. Not trying to be a jerk here. He was fun to watch. He made things happen...at the college level. But, to me, he made a lot of throws that would've been picked off in the NFL. The improvisational style can work great in college. It doesn't work as consistently in the pros. Watch more tape. This kid is going to be an absolute stud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dneveu 326 Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bring it said: I’m also thinking that Foles might be available too. Will Philly really keep him and Wentz? Yeah - thats a good point. If the Jets sign Cousins i think they drop McCown too. He's not a viable starting option, but he'd be a solid backup if we drafted someone. Glennon also probably gets shipped out. Edited February 9, 2018 by dneveu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites