SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) With Wood's departure cutting Glenn leaves 2 big holes to fill on the OLine. 2017 was his 2nd year of his 5 year contract and the cap hit would be costly. $14,450,000 Sammy didn't have a cap hit with 2018 being his new contract season. (If there was one it was for peanuts) Edited February 19, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 For those wanting to trade Shady. Why? Cap figure is $8,950,000 trading him nets - Dead $ Incurred: $5,250,000 Cap $ Saved: $3,700,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Release TT, restructure a player or 2 and cut some 3rd string type players and the Bills could have close to $50 Mil in cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 8:03 PM, Manther said: Virgil....I usually agree with you. Don’t agree with cutting Glenn. To me this is the key ingredient in all of this regarding Glenn If Glenn is truly healthy....he and Dawkins would make great bookends. If he is not....hes gtg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 In favor of Tyrod Taylor, Savings: $10.4 million if traded before March 16, $9.4 million if released before March 16 Dead cap: $7.6 million if traded before March 16, $8.64 million if released before March 16 Tyrod Taylor is the most obvious candidate to be cut if the Bills are trying to trim some salary John Miller, guard Savings: $1.95 million Dead cap: $170,000 John Miller fell out of favor with the Bills last season, getting benched four games into the season in favor of Vlad Ducasse Luke warm Lorenzo Alexander, linebacker Savings: $2.75 million Dead cap: $850,000 Not in favor of Cordy Glenn, offensive tackle Savings: $4.85 million if traded before March 18, $3.4 million if released before March 16 Dead cap: $9.6 million if traded before March 18, $11.1 million if released before March 16 Richie Incognito, guard Savings: $6.425 million Dead cap: $1.15 million Jerry Hughes, defensive end Savings: $6.5 million if released after June 1 Dead cap: $3.9 million if released after June 1 Jerry Hughes is still playing at a high level. He's the Bills' only reliable edge rusher, so cutting him would take a toll on the depth chart Colton Schmidt, punter Savings: $1.15 million Dead cap: $300,000 The Bills stashed punter Cory Carter on the practice squad last season. That doesn't mean he's the successor to Colton Schmidt, but he could provide some competition http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/02/buffalo_bills_salary_cap_2018_7_players_team_could_cut_or_trade_to_save_money.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: In favor of Tyrod Taylor, Savings: $10.4 million if traded before March 16, $9.4 million if released before March 16 Dead cap: $7.6 million if traded before March 16, $8.64 million if released before March 16 Tyrod Taylor is the most obvious candidate to be cut if the Bills are trying to trim some salary John Miller, guard Savings: $1.95 million Dead cap: $170,000 John Miller fell out of favor with the Bills last season, getting benched four games into the season in favor of Vlad Ducasse Luke warm Lorenzo Alexander, linebacker Savings: $2.75 million Dead cap: $850,000 Not in favor of Cordy Glenn, offensive tackle Savings: $4.85 million if traded before March 18, $3.4 million if released before March 16 Dead cap: $9.6 million if traded before March 18, $11.1 million if released before March 16 Richie Incognito, guard Savings: $6.425 million Dead cap: $1.15 million Jerry Hughes, defensive end Savings: $6.5 million if released after June 1 Dead cap: $3.9 million if released after June 1 Jerry Hughes is still playing at a high level. He's the Bills' only reliable edge rusher, so cutting him would take a toll on the depth chart Colton Schmidt, punter Savings: $1.15 million Dead cap: $300,000 The Bills stashed punter Cory Carter on the practice squad last season. That doesn't mean he's the successor to Colton Schmidt, but he could provide some competition http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/02/buffalo_bills_salary_cap_2018_7_players_team_could_cut_or_trade_to_save_money.html Jerry Hughes had 4 sacks last season. That’s over 1.5 million a sack.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Sacks were down for every member on Defense . Restructuring could help if both parties are willing Restructured Jerry Hughes could save $2,717,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 7:35 AM, Bray Wyatt said: Here is my initial reaction Wow, you let like every WR walk. I think we should probably keep one or two of those guys. They'll be cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, MJS said: Wow, you let like every WR walk. I think we should probably keep one or two of those guys. They'll be cheap. If we had to keep one it would probably be Thompson, but even then he was cut from the Bears and a mid season pick up, not like he cant be replaced. Same with the others, Id rather bring in some rookies (draft and UDFA) and see who is out there in FA as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said: If we had to keep one it would probably be Thompson, but even then he was cut from the Bears and a mid season pick up, not like he cant be replaced. Same with the others, Id rather bring in some rookies (draft and UDFA) and see who is out there in FA as well. I’d keep KB too. For at min one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I’d keep KB too. For at min one more year. Well yes I want to keep KB but he’s not on the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 7:50 AM, atlbillsfan1975 said: I believe the Bills are going to take the same approach to Glenn as they did with Watkins. Show he is healthy and then trade him in August for picks and a player. This is the biggest savings. I also believe we will get a tip on this being possible with Henderson. IF Henderson is healthy look for him to be brought back as a swing tackle. Making Glenn the odd man out. Glenn’s contract is also one where trading him post June 1stake the most financial sense. I think this is probably the plan, athough I'd really enjoy getting to see Dawkins and Glenn as our bookends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: If we had to keep one it would probably be Thompson, but even then he was cut from the Bears and a mid season pick up, not like he cant be replaced. Same with the others, Id rather bring in some rookies (draft and UDFA) and see who is out there in FA as well. But Thompson was as close as our WRs come to being a proven playmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: I think this is probably the plan, athough I'd really enjoy getting to see Dawkins and Glenn as our bookends. In a perfect world this would be the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 6:35 AM, Bray Wyatt said: Here is my initial reaction The only thing I'd change is keep Deonte Thompson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: But Thompson was as close as our WRs come to being a proven playmaker. He did play well when thrown to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: If we had to keep one it would probably be Thompson, but even then he was cut from the Bears and a mid season pick up, not like he cant be replaced. Same with the others, Id rather bring in some rookies (draft and UDFA) and see who is out there in FA as well. Call me crazy, but Jordan Matthews is a quality WR. He has had a solid career before coming to Buffalo. He had to deal with one of the worst passing QB's in the league and had injuries, but he is good. Also, we traded for him. I would be happy if we brought him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 9 hours ago, John from Hemet said: To me this is the key ingredient in all of this regarding Glenn If Glenn is truly healthy....he and Dawkins would make great bookends. If he is not....hes gtg Sort of agree. If Glenn is truly healthy....he and Dawkins make great bookends. If not AND he can recover you keep him because trading a broken Glenn does not yield much in return. So keep him till he recovers. If he is not healthy and most likely can't recover to almost 100% then you trade him for anything you can get for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 10 hours ago, MJS said: Call me crazy, but Jordan Matthews is a quality WR. He has had a solid career before coming to Buffalo. He had to deal with one of the worst passing QB's in the league and had injuries, but he is good. Also, we traded for him. I would be happy if we brought him back. I dont think you're crazy and I do like Matthews. I just dont think we will be able to afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: I dont think you're crazy and I do like Matthews. I just dont think we will be able to afford him. How often do teams trade for a player with the expectation of only 1 season? Other than say the Pats*** I don't recall it happening frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: How often do teams trade for a player with the expectation of only 1 season? Other than say the Pats*** I don't recall it happening frequently. I looked at the trade as more for the draft pick, and matthews to fill the wr hole made by the sammy trade until teh off season. If we bring him back at reasonable price I wouldnt hate it, him zay and kb is a decent wr core i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 20 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said: I think this is probably the plan, athough I'd really enjoy getting to see Dawkins and Glenn as our bookends. At some pt McBeane has to stop the cap savings routine. There are creating to many holes to fill . Unless they sign a good tackle in free agency for less and then trade Cordy this does not make any sense. Btw i would love to see those bookends also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Cordy has 3yrs 30mil left on his deal. That's very good compared to other tackles in the league and where the cap is headed. 10mil per plus Dawkins at 2mil that's 12mil per for your bookends. The purge needs to stop . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 7:30 AM, Virgil said: Trade/Cut TT Trade Glenn - Dawkins did fine, save money, get picks The rest - Trust the process Oh yeah....keep Tolbert off the field! Freakin' A Right!!! 26 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Cordy has 3yrs 30mil left on his deal. That's very good compared to other tackles in the league and where the cap is headed. 10mil per plus Dawkins at 2mil that's 12mil per for your bookends. The purge needs to stop . Cordy has 3 yrs left 30 mil left on his deal... and "0" years left on his body. Lose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Socal-805 said: Freakin' A Right!!! Cordy has 3 yrs left 30 mil left on his deal... and "0" years left on his body. Lose him. I guess McBeane was being optimistic when they said he was looking really good for OTAs and that he's working very hard to get bk. We can't keep creating more holes to fill for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/22/2018 at 1:53 AM, NastyNateSoldiers said: I guess McBeane was being optimistic when they said he was looking really good for OTAs and that he's working very hard to get bk. We can't keep creating more holes to fill for this team. Agreed that we don’t need more holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I released everyone from the roster and we had 100 million in cap space. That's plenty for FA! On the con side we did have 180 million in dead cap so there's that. All in all trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, JinxedBill1 said: I released everyone from the roster and we had 100 million in cap space. That's plenty for FA! On the con side we did have 180 million in dead cap so there's that. All in all trust the process. You don’t have to release every one. Release TT and restructure 3 or so and you could have ~$50 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: You don’t have to release every one. Release TT and restructure 3 or so and you could have ~$50 mil I did it just to do it. It's more of joke really. You know, what if we just release everyone. We'd have much more dead cap than actual cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, JinxedBill1 said: I did it just to do it. It's more of joke really. You know, what if we just release everyone. We'd have much more dead cap than actual cap. Yeah I guess I missed the point there. Ive read posts where people actually want to basically gut the online of quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 WR Deonte Thompson WR Brandon Tate CB EJ Gaines CB Leonard Johnson or CB Shareece Wright S Colt Anderson - decent backup S Shamarko Thomas - Good ST player Exclusive Rights Free Agents TE Nick O’Leary - Time to part ways. Replace him with Ladarius Green. TE Logan Thomas - Does he have untapped potential? DE Eddie Yarbrough - solid backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, GreggTX said: WR Deonte Thompson WR Brandon Tate CB EJ Gaines CB Leonard Johnson or CB Shareece Wright S Colt Anderson - decent backup S Shamarko Thomas - Good ST player Exclusive Rights Free Agents TE Nick O’Leary - Time to part ways. Replace him with Ladarius Green. TE Logan Thomas - Does he have untapped potential? DE Eddie Yarbrough - solid backup I’d keep O’Leary for at least another season. Need to see what they do at qb first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Cutting Taylor and signing sign Kirk for $25 (2018) leaves $10 mil cap space Restructure Jerry Hughes >> $13 mil cap space Restructure Charles Clay >> $14.8 mil cap space Restructure Shady McCoy >> $17.4 mil cap space Cut Lo Alexander >> $19.16 mil cap space TRANSACTIONS LOG (HIDE) Kirk Cousins signed as a free agent (Cap: $25,000,000) Released Tyrod Taylor(Saved: $4,440,000) Restructured Jerry Hughes (Saved: $2,717,500) Restructured Charles Clay (Saved: $1,792,500) Restructured LeSean McCoy (Saved: $2,580,000) Released Lorenzo Alexander(Saved: $1,750,000) $19.16 mil cap space seems doable to still make a splash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Cutting Taylor and signing sign Kirk for $25 (2018) leaves $10 mil cap space Restructure Jerry Hughes >> $13 mil cap space Restructure Charles Clay >> $14.8 mil cap space Restructure Shady McCoy >> $17.4 mil cap space Cut Lo Alexander >> $19.16 mil cap space TRANSACTIONS LOG (HIDE) Kirk Cousins signed as a free agent (Cap: $25,000,000) Released Tyrod Taylor(Saved: $4,440,000) Restructured Jerry Hughes (Saved: $2,717,500) Restructured Charles Clay (Saved: $1,792,500) Restructured LeSean McCoy (Saved: $2,580,000) Released Lorenzo Alexander(Saved: $1,750,000) $19.16 mil cap space seems doable to still make a splash What's the plan to make Cousins' hit $25M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: What's the plan to make Cousins' hit $25M? Send him a bouquet of flowers and a 5 year deal. $100 Mil, $50 guaranteed and "The Process". Playoff Caliber (Calibre) mentality, a rising defense, HC and ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Send him a bouquet of flowers and a 5 year deal. $100 Mil, $50 guaranteed and "The Process". Playoff Caliber (Calibre) mentality, a rising defense, HC and ownership. I mean, there are ways for his AAV to be 29-30 but his 2018 hit is kept low. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I mean, there are ways for his AAV to be 29-30 but his 2018 hit is kept low. Just curious. I'm sure there are. I'm not a capologist so I'll leave it to the experts to figure out. Keep it reasonable in 2018 and a nice bump up in 2019 when they have more cap room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 On 2/21/2018 at 5:21 PM, NastyNateSoldiers said: Cordy has 3yrs 30mil left on his deal. That's very good compared to other tackles in the league and where the cap is headed. 10mil per plus Dawkins at 2mil that's 12mil per for your bookends. The purge needs to stop . According to Spotrac, if I am reading it correctly, it is 3 yrs for 39.6 Million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 5 hours ago, richardb1952 said: According to Spotrac, if I am reading it correctly, it is 3 yrs for 39.6 Million. Cordy becomes a UFA 2012. He is entering his 3rd season of the 5 yr(s) contract. currently his dead cap is $19,600,000 http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cordy-glenn-9851/ POTENTIAL OUT: 2019, 3 YR, $41,250,000; $6,400,000 DEAD CAP So if they go with McCarron TRANSACTIONS LOG (HIDE) AJ McCarron signed as a free agent (Cap: $18,000,000) Released Tyrod Taylor(Saved: $4,440,000) Restructured Jerry Hughes (Saved: $2,717,500) Restructured Charles Clay (Saved: $1,792,500) Restructured LeSean McCoy (Saved: $2,580,000) Released Lorenzo Alexander(Saved: $1,750,000) $26.16 mil cap space seems doable to still make a splash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 What are peoples 2018 cap figure guesses for the following? (we've discussed KC and TT) Case Keenum 2017 AVV $2 Mil AJ McCarron 2017 AVV $.6 Mil Sam Bradford 2017 AVV $18 Mil Josh McCowen 2017 AVV $6 Mil T Bridgewatrer 2017 AVV $2 Mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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