Roch Jim Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 OK, I can obsess about minutiae when it comes to the Bills, but I'm thinking Steve Wilks' hiring as HC in Zona hurts us. He knows, has a relationship with, and will likely pursue some of the same Carolina talent base McD might, specifically our hoped-for DT Star Lotulelei. If nothing else, it may exacerbate any bidding war for him. Anyone else concerned that another Carolina DC is now a HC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Ill only be concerned if "Believe the Method" starts appearing out of Phoenix. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Should I know what this means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Roch Jim said: OK, I can obsess about minutiae when it comes to the Bills, but I'm thinking Steve Wilks' hiring as HC in Zona hurts us. He knows, has a relationship with, and will likely pursue some of the same Carolina talent base McD might, specifically our hoped-for DT Star Lotulelei. If nothing else, it may exacerbate any bidding war for him. Anyone else concerned that another Carolina DC is now a HC? If our talent acquisition plan is limited to "poach off Carolina talent base" it might But if that's our talent acquisition plan, we're in trouble anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, Roch Jim said: OK, I can obsess about minutiae when it comes to the Bills, but I'm thinking Steve Wilks' hiring as HC in Zona hurts us. He knows, has a relationship with, and will likely pursue some of the same Carolina talent base McD might, specifically our hoped-for DT Star Lotulelei. If nothing else, it may exacerbate any bidding war for him. Anyone else concerned that another Carolina DC is now a HC? If this was the case then I'd be more concerned with Gettleman being the Giants new GM. He basically groomed Beane, so they probably have similar thought processes and evaluation methods when it comes to talent. This could also work for us. The giants stated they want Eli back, and like Webb. So they could be a trading partner possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I thought about this too, but to be honest I think people are reading too much into the Carolina connection and thinking it's automatic that some of their pending FA's will end up in Buffalo (or now AZ). But if anything this hire shows that the Ron Rivera coaching tree is legit or it might end up like Belichik if McD and Wilks don't end up having long term success away from Carolina. I still tend to believe that McD's success was more the biproduct of Rivera who is a legit defensive guru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 This is a good question. They also draft in front of us. But I will say they have a lot of talent on their defense. Chandler Jones, Haason Reddick, Deone Bucannon and a really good secondary. Maybe he can get something out of Robert Nkemdiche. I'm assuming the would transition into a 4-3. I think where we need to worry is at the linebacker spot as they will be looking for the same type of talent as us. I suppose they could play Reddick at the Mike and Bucannon at the Will, but they would be very undersized there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 This happens every year in the NFL.. This is pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) I'm not worried if we don't get Star or any carolina free agent this year. I don't think McDermott is going to bank on that connection as his only way to find players. Poyer, Hyde, his drafted players...I really think this is a non-story. Edited January 25, 2018 by Buffalo30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said: I'm not worried if won't don't get Star or any carolina free agent this year. I don't think McDermott is going to bank on that connection as his only way to find players. Poyer, Hyde, his drafted players...I really think this is a non-story. 100% agreed. McD has proven he can find talent or make it work with what little he has. We’ll be fine. I can’t wait for next season already. This team is only going to get better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, SaviorPeterman said: I thought about this too, but to be honest I think people are reading too much into the Carolina connection and thinking it's automatic that some of their pending FA's will end up in Buffalo (or now AZ). But if anything this hire shows that the Ron Rivera coaching tree is legit or it might end up like Belichik if McD and Wilks don't end up having long term success away from Carolina. I still tend to believe that McD's success was more the biproduct of Rivera who is a legit defensive guru. You've officially gone coo coo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Nothing to see here.....move along. GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Roch Jim said: OK, I can obsess about minutiae when it comes to the Bills, but I'm thinking Steve Wilks' hiring as HC in Zona hurts us. He knows, has a relationship with, and will likely pursue some of the same Carolina talent base McD might, specifically our hoped-for DT Star Lotulelei. If nothing else, it may exacerbate any bidding war for him. Anyone else concerned that another Carolina DC is now a HC? If the Cards offer what Star wants...he will sign there. If someone offers something better...he won't. Really simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If our talent acquisition plan is limited to "poach off Carolina talent base" it might But if that's our talent acquisition plan, we're in trouble anyway Agreed. But, the reality of Star and a specific need four our defense (I think is important). But, time will tell! Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: If the Cards offer what Star wants...he will sign there. If someone offers something better...he won't. Really simple as that. It's not all about money for all players. Family comes into consideration as well as other factors for many players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Buffalo30 said: It's not all about money for all players. Family comes into consideration as well as other factors for many players. Didn't say money. Said if they offer what he wants. Could be anything. Coaching. Chance to win a ring. Close proximity to a Cracker Barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I don't see it effecting us much at all. The only Panthers player coming into FA this year worth considering is Star, and there are quite a few good DTs available aside from him. From a coaching staff perspective McD seems to care more about the Reid tree than the Carolina connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: Didn't say money. Said if they offer what he wants. Could be anything. Coaching. Chance to win a ring. Close proximity to a Cracker Barrel. Gotcha. I assumed you meant money. My apologies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Sounds pretty glass half empty. We now have familiar relationships with not just the Chiefs, but the Giants and the Cardinals as well. I see that as a positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Star had 26 tackles and one and a half sacks this year. Are we really going to give him a big contract just because he's from Carolina? I would like a bit more production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Really? like Carolina is the only team who can draft players? geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Do they need DTs or more defense? Suspect they will concentrate on offense as that is where the need is for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 There is little doubt that Wilks accepting the AZ job is a complete disaster for the Bills. Not sure why its bad but I'm certain that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 18 hours ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: If the Cards offer what Star wants...he will sign there. If someone offers something better...he won't. Really simple as that. i hope they do. that's one step closer we get to vita vea.....now if we can get him past jerry jones...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, billsredneck1 said: i hope they do. that's one step closer we get to vita vea.....now if we can get him past jerry jones...... Honestly, no reason we can't have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: Honestly, no reason we can't have both. i wouldn't argue against both, but if i could only sign one free agent and have one rookie on the line it would be vea and ansah. i have been hoping that adolphus would come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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