Is Tom Brady better than Jordan?

[Romie]

He's no Jordan but I do believe it's what the NFL wants.  You wanna turn the rest of the world onto your product, you need a mega superstar 

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

I believe Brady is the better of the 2 but nobody even comes close to Wayne Gretzsky.

[MiltonWaddams]

No. Jordan won his rings via fierce determination and competitiveness like the world has never seen. Brady is good, but the black marks surrounding him tar his legacy immensely. Jordan was a jerk, but he was phenomenal at every level. And, let's be honest, his athletic talents far surpass any qb to play the game. 

[Augie]

I don’t think Brady can evolve from a slasher/intense defender to a fall away jump shooter. And I doubt Jordan would do kale. 

[MiltonWaddams]

5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

LOL...talk about the wrong crowd to ask this question too.  This board is far too biased to give this question a fair answer.  Its going to be overwhelmingly no due to biased hate and disgust of everything Pats.  

 

But the truth is, Brady's 5 SB's are more impressive than than Jordan's 6 rings.  Its way easier to win multiple championships in the NBA than the NFL.  The NFL has so much more violence and volatility than the NBA.  There are only 5 guys on the court at a time in the NBA, compared to 11 in the NFL.  So if you are dominant on the court, you are 20% of your team and much easier to overcome weaker players.  In the NFL, a QB is impacted by the OL, receivers, etc, so its a lot harder for a QB to always be great the way Tom has because he has so many moving parts around him.  

 

This won't be a popular answer here, and I get it, and its cool and all.  But if we are being honest, the answer is Brady.  And lets not forget Brady is still playing at an Elite level and still among the 5 best players in the NFL at 40 in a much more VIOLENT game and Jordan was a shell of himself at 40 when he retired for good.

You aren't entirely wrong as it is incredible the dominance of this Pats team under Brady. However, look at the coaching and players that have surrounded Brady and look at who Jordan played with and, perhaps more importantly, against, and you will see the difference. Jordan didn't play in a watered down NBA. He had Bird, Isaiah, Magic, Ewing, Drexler, Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Price, Penny and Shaq to contend with to win those titles. That's a murderers row. Brady is the greatest QB of all time, and that should not be argued, but Jordan is the GOAT and I hate that the two have been and wiil be compared.

[napmaster]

Tom Brady is the GOHE - Greatest of his Era.  He's playing in the entertainment era NFL where the QB can't be touched and you can't mug receivers.  That takes nothing away from his greatness, but I have a hard time believing he'd have been this successful in the 80s era NFL.  On the flip side, seeing Montana or Marino in today's game would be amazing.

[reddogblitz]

 Michael Jordon is better at basketball and Tommy is better at football.

 

Maybe we could settle it with a bake off.

[KD in CA]

Just make it stop.   

[Lfod]

In basketball you don't have dudes running at you full speed ready to wreck your life. Football is a more complex and dangerous sport. Just my opinion on it. 

 

I respect all sports but like golf, basketball, baseball and bowling I'll never want to just watch that boring stuff. Hockey and Football are real gladiator battles.

 

I hate Tom Brady but the dude is ancient playing a more intense sport so I voted better than Jordan. 

Edited January 23, 2018 by Lfod

[KD in CA]

8 hours ago, Steve O said:

For all of the "cheating" the patriots have done over the years, the thing they have benefitted most from is perfectly legal. Brady was the 15th highest paid qb in 2017. This allows NE to sign free agents to contracts that other teams can't match because of salary cap and having big bucks invested in their quarterbacks. While perfectly legal, not having huge $ tied up in their franchise quarterback has given NE a big advantage in free agency.

 

Why do you assume that's perfectly legal?

 

I'd bet my kids Brady has a side deal with Kraft for post-retirement income that allows them to circumvent the cap now.

[Fred Clause]

9 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

I'm not "worshiping." 

I just want to know, from an unbiased standpoint, how people feel in comparison to Jordan. Seriously, we can be mature about this, even on a Bills board. 

There are tons of non-Bills related posts every day discussing various topics. This is no worse.

 

That very well could be true, but in terms of accomplishments what is your opinion?

Jordan didn’t have to cheat to win his championships....

[oldmanfan]

Hard to compare between sports.  Gretzky, Brady, Jordan all clearly the best in their sports.  But let me throw out two other names:  Federer and Serena.  Both dominant and did it on their own.  No Messier.  No Belicheat.  No Pippin.

[hemma]

Not even close.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said:

No. Jordan won his rings via fierce determination and competitiveness like the world has never seen. Brady is good, but the black marks surrounding him tar his legacy immensely. Jordan was a jerk, but he was phenomenal at every level. And, let's be honest, his athletic talents far surpass any qb to play the game. 

 

I dunno...Vick might have a case to be made

[Ol Dirty B]

9 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Jordan was great because he was great at all aspects of the game. Offense, defense, handling, shooting... and overall one of the most incredible athletes on the court. 

 

A team of 5 Jordan’s would have been tough to stop. 

 

A team of 11 Brady’s beats no one. He’s very good at one position and would likely be useless at just about any other spot on the field. But because the team and system is built around him doing that 1 thing well.. they win loads of games  

 

 

 

A team of 5 Jordan's gets destroyed in the post in that era.

 

I'm not really a fan of these cross sport comparisons. They really make no sense. It's hard enough to compare QB's from the 80s and 90s to QBs today, now we are going to start comparing a 2 guard from the 90s to a QB?

 

No thanks, I don't even know where to begin. Go figure ESPN would be the place that creates a conversation that really can't be had. 

1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said:

You aren't entirely wrong as it is incredible the dominance of this Pats team under Brady. However, look at the coaching and players that have surrounded Brady and look at who Jordan played with and, perhaps more importantly, against, and you will see the difference. Jordan didn't play in a watered down NBA. He had Bird, Isaiah, Magic, Ewing, Drexler, Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Price, Penny and Shaq to contend with to win those titles. That's a murderers row. Brady is the greatest QB of all time, and that should not be argued, but Jordan is the GOAT and I hate that the two have been and wiil be compared.

 

So Jordan is the GOAT of what? Being a human being? You sound retarded.

[Needle]

My answer would be Babe Ruth. Hands down the most dominate player in his sport. Nobody was better in their respective era. No one is old enough to remember but the stats and history back it up.

 

 

[Big Turk]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

I believe Brady is the better of the 2 but nobody even comes close to Wayne Gretzsky.

Based on what? Jordan had 6 championships in an 8 year period including 1 year where he was playing baseball. He had 3 more years where he retired before coming back for 2 more seasons where he averaged over 20 points a game again playing for the Wizards.

 

Jordan was an all time offensive player AND potentially the greatest defensive player ever as well.  Brady has no comparison to that. Hed have to be the best QB and the best defnsive player at the same time. That doesnt even exist in football. That puts Jordan several rungs higher than Brady by itself. Brady has 5 Super Bowl wins in 17 seasons now? Went 9 years between Super Bowl wins at one point? Jordan won 6 titles in less than that time span and was playing baseball for a year in there...

 

 

[Success]

Where is all of this “likable Jordan” stuff coming from?  Anyone catch his HOF speech?

 

They’re the same.  Goats.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

12 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Nope. I'd still take Joe Montana over TB every time. He's not even close to being a Jordan. 

I agree and mof i can't put the Pats on any great lists because of the blemishes on there record as far as cheating is concerned.  They have been caught and always have the favor of the officials.  Just like Baseball no one doubts the talents of Bonds, Maguire, Sosa, Rose and Clemens but there not in the Hof for a reason.  I'm gonna do the same for the Pats i acknowledge they are the first MANUFACTURED DYNASTY IN SPORTS HISTORY!

[Lionel Hutz]

What would ESPN talk about if there never was a Tom Brady or Michael Jordan?