The End of the Nathan Peterman Era...

[Teddy KGB]

40 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

None of this is right. McDermott was wrong. He threw 5 ints. You don't know who was consulted in the locker room and quite honestly, I don't care who was or of they were.

 

It's not lazy, it's a fact he was 100% wrong playing Peterman. Why we are still having this debate or someone would want to just clearly be wrong, I don't understand. 

 

They made the playoffs, he made a bad decision. Let's just move on. 

 

We can move on when you stop saying he made the wrong decision.  

 

He he is the coach, He made the decision and the Bills are in playoffs 

 

1 point for Coach, zero points for you.  

 

 

[BillsFan130]

8 minutes ago, teef said:

eric woods was on sirius nfl the other day talking about this.  i know you have to take it with a grain of salt when discussing something like this with the national media, but he claimed he, (and the team) were shocked by the move, but completely understood it.  he said he had respect for mcd because he was willing to shake things up to win.  i'm obviously paraphrasing, but this was the gist of it.  it ended in disaster, but we can understand why the move was attempted.  woods also specifically mentioned that fans don't see peterman play in practice like the other players/coaches do.  maybe peterman is fantastic in practice?

Wood kind of has to say that though. Especially being one of the leaders of the team 

 

What's he supposed to say? Mcd is an idiot who completely got it wrong? Haha

[twoandfourteen]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yes listening again......  Having fun about the 4 way tie-breaker (and Cleveland being the reason Buffalo is in according to them) and barely beating Fales......

 

About 10:30 minutes in, but you hate him.  I like him, a little too Boston-centric but he is a FAN.........

 

Oh and also considered Peterman's qb/performance as the worst of the year (maybe all time).......

 

14 year starter, future HOF QB, and 2 time Super Bowl Champion Ben Roethlisberger threw 5 INTs against the Jaguars this year. 4 of them were in one half. Bad games happen. 

 

But he didn't break the hearts of the #teamtyrod fangirls. 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

14 year starter, future HOF QB, and 2 time Super Bowl Champion Ben Roethlisberger threw 5 INTs against the Jaguars this year. 4 of them were in one half. Bad games happen. 

 

But he didn't break the hearts of the #teamtyrod fangirls. 

 

 

He threw two pick 6's in a span of 3 minutes.

[BillsFan130]

3 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

14 year starter, future HOF QB, and 2 time Super Bowl Champion Ben Roethlisberger threw 5 INTs against the Jaguars this year. 4 of them were in one half. Bad games happen. 

 

But he didn't break the hearts of the #teamtyrod fangirls. 

 

You can`t compare a future hall of fame QB who had a bad game, to a 5th round rookie who was put in when he wasn't ready...

 

It`s completely different.

 

If Nate Peterman had even half of Ben`s resume, he would have probably started the 2nd half that game, and would 100 percent be starting the week after

 

 

[prissythecat]

8 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

14 year starter, future HOF QB, and 2 time Super Bowl Champion Ben Roethlisberger threw 5 INTs against the Jaguars this year. 4 of them were in one half. Bad games happen. 

 

But he didn't break the hearts of the #teamtyrod fangirls. 

 

 

 

 

You are implying Nate Peterman is the next Big Ben?

[teef]

19 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Wood kind of has to say that though. Especially being one of the leaders of the team 

 

What's he supposed to say? Mcd is an idiot who completely got it wrong? Haha

i hear ya.  i even threw that idea in there.  

[billieve420]

17 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

56 yards passing in the Modern NFL. 

 

Not like any other QBs have had terrible games in the history of the NFL.

9/24 J. Flacco  8/18 28 yds 2 Ints

12/24 R. Wilson 14/21 93 yds 2 TDs

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

 He is the jets qb.   He went up 27 points with 5 mins left.    ??‍♂️

 

Simmons knows the bills offense is terrible.   He picked us to lose to the dolphins.  

 

Watching all the no shows vs the pats should make him formulate that opinion. 

Oh he was the reason with his 140 yards and 1 TD? So Tyrod curb stomped Carr and Matt Ryan then. Also McClown in the first game. Your logic. 

Edited January 3, 2018 by Scott7975

[twoandfourteen]

5 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

You can`t compare a future hall of fame QB who had a bad game, to a 5th round rookie who was put in when he wasn't ready...

 

It`s completely different.

 

If Nate Peterman had even half of Ben`s resume, he would have probably started the 2nd half that game, and would 100 percent be starting the week after

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

 

 

 

You are implying Nate Peterman is the next Big Ben?

 

Thank you to both of you, I was actually hoping for these responses. 

 

No, of course I'm not implying that Nate is the next Roethlisberger. That would be insane. Nate is most likely the next Drew Stanton, if anything. 

 

My point is that all of the scorching hottt "WORST PERFORMANCE BY A QB OF ALL-TIME, HAHAHA" or "MCDERMOTT IS SOOO STUPID!!!!! takes are ridiculous and incredibly lazy, and to use them to somehow excuse Tyrod Taylor's absolutely horrible performances this season and condemn McDermott as a coach is even more insane. 

 

Let's look at this objectively. 

 

In 2017, Nathan Peterman...

• Rookie QB
• Drafted in the 5th round
• 7 months into his NFL career
• Shouldn't have ever been put in that position, but the starter had been a tire fire in multiple games to that point. 
• Threw 5 INTs in a half in his first ever start on the road. 

In 2017, Ben Roethlisberger...

• Future first ballot HOF'er
• 14 years as a starter in the NFL
• 2 Superbowl Rings
• 50,000+ passing yards/300+ passing TDs
• Threw 5 INTs at home in the 190th game of his career.
• 4 of those INTs occurred in the second half.
• 2 were returned for TDs in a span of 3 minutes. 
• The Steelers were actually winning 9-7 when this all went down, and ended up losing 30-9. 

 

 

So what's the point? I'm glad you asked. 

 

The point is that bad games happen. If an all-time great like Ben Roethlisberger is susceptible to a total meltdown at QB, then a 5th round rookie playing in his first start is definitely capable of it.  

 

Peterman's game in LA was really unfortunate. It was an unmitigated disaster for the rookie QB and the rookie coach. 

But it's not as big of a deal as #teamtyrod and the empty-headed media are making it out to be. To say it's the "worst thing ever done by any QB ever" when it wasn't even the worst game by a QB in 2017 is ridiculous. 

 

Maybe I should make this it's own thread... hmmm.

17 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

 

Not like any other QBs have had terrible games in the history of the NFL.

9/24 J. Flacco  8/18 28 yds 2 Ints

12/24 R. Wilson 14/21 93 yds 2 TDs

 

Those are balanced out by Super Bowl rings, 300+ and 400+ yard performances, etc, etc. 

 

Do better.

[Billsfan1972]

2 hours ago, teef said:

i can honestly say that i've never heard a single minute of his show, so i don't like or hate him at all.  to even say that's absurd.  why are you trying so hard to discredit what this team has done?  are they playoff giants?  of course not, but you're acting like the bills don't deserved to be there at all because of how you feel about personnel decision this staff has made.  it's childish.  but hey, if stretching, (i can guarantee what you're saying isn't totally true...you have made things up in the past) what was said gets you through the day, have at it.

Geez passing on what is a very good podcast and someone I enjoy who is like it or not fairly prominent in the industry.

 

But of course Bills fans know better and told us so when Peterman was announced the starter.

 

Don't ever have a contrary view to a Bills fan.......

[suorangefan4]

12 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

You mean Joe Webb.

 

It's really a miracle we made the playoffs this year. I mean if Webb doesn't connect with Thompson late in that game we lose that game.

 

Wrong.

 

Peterman was the starter that game and the Bills were winning when he got injured. Webb nearly blew the game  throwing an INT that set the Colts up for a chance to win. 

Edited January 3, 2018 by suorangefan4

[twoandfourteen]

48 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

He threw two pick 6's in a span of 3 minutes.

 

I had no idea it was that bad until I saw your post -- thanks for adding that in. 

[Billsfan1972]

1 hour ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

Let's do this one more time. Pay attention. 

 

When evaluating a decision, you can only look at the information available at the time the decision was made. At the time, McD had a starting QB that was incapable of doing his job. To that point in the season, Taylor's body of work was poor and borderline terrible in multiple games. The Saints game was unacceptable by any measure and something had to be done. Period.

 

That is where he was when Peterman got the call. 

 

The result of the decision was an unfortunate disaster. However, that doesn't mean that he was stupid or incompetent for making it. Tyrod Taylor put them in the position where they had no other choice but to make a change. 

 

Now, maybe you knew for certain that Peterman was going to throw 5 picks. If that's the case, then it's on you for not taking your crystal ball down to OBD to give McD a heads up. All I ask is that you use your powers of clairvoyance for good, not evil. 

 

 

 

 

No it was the expected disaster and result 95% of professionals and those not with skin in the game (i.e. fans) predicted would happen.  A complete disaster/meltdown/5 Ints maybe not, but the best case scenario would have been a bad game, which is what one expectrs from a 5th round rookie in his first start.....

[teef]

1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Geez passing on what is a very good podcast and someone I enjoy who is like it or not fairly prominent in the industry.

 

But of course Bills fans know better and told us so when Peterman was announced the starter.

 

Don't ever have a contrary view to a Bills fan.......

what kind of argument is this?  a ****ty one.

 

hey 1972.  this bills made the playoffs without sammy watkins.  sammy watkins had another ok year, but isn't elite.  you mad bro?

[BillsFan130]

Just now, twoandfourteen said:

 

 

Thank you to both of you, I was actually hoping for these responses. 

 

No, of course I'm not implying that Nate is the next Roethlisberger. That would be insane. Nate is most likely the next Drew Stanton, if anything. 

 

My point is that all of the scorching hottt "WORST PERFORMANCE BY A QB OF ALL-TIME, HAHAHA" or "MCDERMOTT IS SOOO STUPID!!!!! takes are ridiculous and incredibly lazy, and to use them to somehow excuse Tyrod Taylor's absolutely horrible performances this season and condemn McDermott as a coach is even more insane. 

 

Let's look at this objectively. 

 

In 2017, Nathan Peterman...

• Rookie QB
• Drafted in the 5th round
• 7 months into his NFL career
• Shouldn't have ever been put in that position, but the starter had been a tire fire in multiple games to that point. 
• Threw 5 INTs in a half in his first ever start on the road. 

In 2017, Ben Roethlisberger...

• Future first ballot HOF'er
• 14 years as a starter in the NFL
• 2 Superbowl Rings
• 50,000+ passing yards/300+ passing TDs
• Threw 5 INTs at home in the 190th game of his career.
• 4 of those INTs occurred in the second half.
• 2 were returned for TDs in a span of 3 minutes. 
• The Steelers were actually winning 9-7 when this all went down, and ended up losing 30-9. 

 

 

So what's the point? I'm glad you asked. 

 

The point is that bad games happen. If an all-time great like Ben Roethlisberger is susceptible to a total meltdown at QB, then a 5th round rookie playing in his first start is definitely capable of it.  

 

Peterman's game in LA was really unfortunate. It was an unmitigated disaster for the rookie QB and the rookie coach. 

But it's not as big of a deal as #teamtyrod and the empty-headed media are making it out to be. To say it's the "worst thing ever done by any QB ever" when it wasn't even the worst game by a QB in 2017 is ridiculous. 

 

Maybe I should make this it's own thread... hmmm.

You’re missing your own point here. I understand you’re saying bad things can happen and great qbs can have bad games as well.

 

But when Ben has a bad game does anyone question whether he was ready to play?

 

Does anyone question the coach for starting him?

 

Does anyone question whether he will start the next week or the remainder of the year?

 

With all due respect, your analogy with Ben was not a good one at all.

 

You are comparing apples and oranges here .

 

Every single great QB has had terrible games. I don’t think anyone is arguing that if that’s your main point .

 

Theres a massive difference when a 5th round rookie gets thrown into a game in which he clearly wasn’t ready for vs. A future hall of famer who just had a bad game 

[Teddy KGB]

9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Oh he was the reason with his 140 yards and 1 TD? So Tyrod curb stomped Carr and Matt Ryan then. Also McClown in the first game. Your logic. 

 

I don’t care how you do the math.    

 

Ultimate result was a big F for the offense.   

 

 

Edited January 3, 2018 by Teddy KGB

[twoandfourteen]

52 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said:

 

You're really going to act like the first pick 6 was his fault? He threw a screen pass which hit Dimarco right in the hands and popped up for an INT.

 

No, he was talking about Roethlisberger against JAX. 

 

At 6:44 & 4:11 in the 3rd Quarter, the Jags took back-to-back INTs in for TDs. 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201710080pit.htm

Edited January 3, 2018 by twoandfourteen

[Billsfan1972]

Peterman wasn't ready and was pathetic.......  Maybe one day he'll be ready, like Fales was vs. the Bills......

 

You guys are pathetic in your defense of the decision and his play......

 

Please point out the 2 good passes he threw and that 3 of the Ints weren't his fault.  I need that one again.

 

And Teef I'm not arguing, you don't listen to Simmons and I simply pointed out the conversation.  Isn't this thread about the two old coots on PTI making fun of Peterman and they know nothing either?

[suorangefan4]

2 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

No, he was talking about Roethlisberger against JAX. 

 

At 6:44 & 4:11 in the 3rd Quarter, the Jags tool back-to-back INTs in for TDs. 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201710080pit.htm

 

Ah my bad. Thanks

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

7 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said:

 

Wrong.

 

Peterman was the starter that game and the Bills were winning when he got injured. Webb nearly blew the game by not scoring the rest of the game until OT and throwing an INT that set the Colts up for a chance to win. 

It sounds like you are blaming the near loss on our Special Teams specialist/back up WR? Shouldn't we blame Peterman for having the bright idea to dive headfirst into the defense with no back up QB on the roster?

[suorangefan4]

1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

It sounds like you are blaming the near loss on our Special Teams specialist/back up WR? Shouldn't we blame Peterman for having the bright idea to dive headfirst into the defense with no back up QB on the roster?

 

I'm just saying that it was Nathan Peterman's win against the Colts. He was the starter and they were winning when he went out. That guy is trying to act like Joe Webb won it more than Peterman did.

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Peterman wasn't ready and was pathetic.......  Maybe one day he'll be ready, like Fales was vs. the Bills......

 

You guys are pathetic in your defense of the decision and his play......

 

Please point out the 2 good passes he threw and that 3 of the Ints weren't his fault.  I need that one again.

 

And Teef I'm not arguing, you don't listen to Simmons and I simply pointed out the conversation.  Isn't this thread about the two old coots on PTI making fun of Peterman and they know nothing either?

 

You said you were going away...can it happen now?

[SaviorPeterman]

3 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said:

 

I'm just saying that it was Nathan Peterman's win against the Colts. He was the starter and they were winning when he went out. That guy is trying to act like Joe Webb won it more than Peterman did.

 

Yes this is true, the starter gets credit for the win even though NP didn't finish the game.

 

And I don't believe it would have come down to Joe Webbs play/overtime anyway had NP not left the game in the 3rd quarter.

 

Bottom line is that NP still showed a lot of promise this year despite the Chargers debacle.

Edited January 3, 2018 by SaviorPeterman

[Billsfan1972]

3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

You said you were going away...can it happen now?

I think I said after the Bills are eliminated.  

 

Again stating facts and you??????  

 

5 Ints in a half didn't happen?????

 

Please how about some McDermott speak or sideline clapping......

 

"I made the right decision, just the outcome wasn't what we expected".......

 

 

[teef]

8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Peterman wasn't ready and was pathetic.......  Maybe one day he'll be ready, like Fales was vs. the Bills......

 

You guys are pathetic in your defense of the decision and his play......

 

Please point out the 2 good passes he threw and that 3 of the Ints weren't his fault.  I need that one again.

 

And Teef I'm not arguing, you don't listen to Simmons and I simply pointed out the conversation.  Isn't this thread about the two old coots on PTI making fun of Peterman and they know nothing either?

i hear ya.  i don't think anything isn't saying it was a mistake.  it was.  i just don't know why you're deciding to latch onto it.  it was a poor choice, mcd  went back to tyrod, and the bills made the playoffs.  listen, we know you don't like this staff mostly because of the watkins trade, but not you're just hanging on one decision to define their first year hear.  i don't know why.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

3 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

What does that have to do with McClown?

Surely you don't mean to call a Fist time First year head coach that broke Buffalo Bills records all throughout  September and put together a team that reached the playoffs a clown? 

[Billsfan1972]

5 minutes ago, teef said:

i hear ya.  i don't think anything isn't saying it was a mistake.  it was.  i just don't know why you're deciding to latch onto it.  it was a poor choice, mcd  went back to tyrod, and the bills made the playoffs.  listen, we know you don't like this staff mostly because of the watkins trade, but not you're just hanging on one decision to define their first year hear.  i don't know why.

Again I've been a fan since 1972 and yes I did not like that they went into tank mode with the trades in the preseason.  I have been honest and forthright about it.  Never had I started a season under the premise that they aren't playing for season, but draft picks and 2-3 seasons down the road.  

 

That is what this staff preached and their actions showed prior to week 1.

 

I can't stand how they run the offence and that Shady is seemingly stuffed every first down rush as the opponents stack the line and know the call.

 

Turtling in the second half and the Prevent Offense kills me.

 

A lot that has turned me off this year, but I have watched and cheered every game.   

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I think I said after the Bills are eliminated.  

 

Again stating facts and you??????  

 

5 Ints in a half didn't happen?????

 

Please how about some McDermott speak or sideline clapping......

 

"I made the right decision, just the outcome wasn't what we expected".......

 

 

 

Why does it have to be when the Bills are eliminated when you don't provide anything of substance on here except obsess over Sammy Watkins?

I state a lot of facts all the time....you generally complain and even made a complaining thread after we made the playoffs.

2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Again I've been a fan since 1972 and yes I did not like that they went into tank mode with the trades in the preseason.  I have been honest and forthright about it.  Never had I started a season under the premise that they aren't playing for season, but draft picks and 2-3 seasons down the road.  

 

That is what this staff preached and their actions showed prior to week 1.

 

I can't stand how they run the offence and that Shady is seemingly stuffed every first down rush as the opponents stack the line and know the call.

 

Turtling in the second half and the Prevent Offense kills me.

 

A lot that has turned me off this year, but I have watched and cheered every game.   

 

They do that because we aren't a threat throwing the ball.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

25 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Peterman wasn't ready and was pathetic.......  Maybe one day he'll be ready, like Fales was vs. the Bills......

 

You guys are pathetic in your defense of the decision and his play......

 

Please point out the 2 good passes he threw and that 3 of the Ints weren't his fault.  I need that one again.

 

And Teef I'm not arguing, you don't listen to Simmons and I simply pointed out the conversation.  Isn't this thread about the two old coots on PTI making fun of Peterman and they know nothing either?

 

9-7, in playoffs.

 

Get over it.

 

[Tatonka68]

Waiting for the Mason Rudolph ERA to begin in September. LOL! Trade Tyrod for whatever the market price is.

[MAJBobby]

59 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

 

Not like any other QBs have had terrible games in the history of the NFL.

9/24 J. Flacco  8/18 28 yds 2 Ints

12/24 R. Wilson 14/21 93 yds 2 TDs

4 terrible games this year ALONE thats 1/4th of your season

Edited January 3, 2018 by MAJBobby

[twoandfourteen]

3 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

You’re missing your own point here. I understand you’re saying bad things can happen and great qbs can have bad games as well.

 

But when Ben has a bad game does anyone question whether he was ready to play?

 

Does anyone question the coach for starting him?

 

Does anyone question whether he will start the next week or the remainder of the year?

 

With all due respect, your analogy with Ben was not a good one at all.

 

You are comparing apples and oranges here .

 

Every single great QB has had terrible games. I don’t think anyone is arguing that if that’s your main point .

 

Theres a massive difference when a 5th round rookie gets thrown into a game in which he clearly wasn’t ready for vs. A future hall of famer who just had a bad game 

 

Was Roethlisberger ready for the Jaguars game? He threw 5 INTs too. 

 

I agree with you -- It's highly unlikely, considering his resume. Dude probably just had a really bad day at the office. Worst game of the 2017 NFL season by a QB.

 

Was Peterman ready? Considering he demonstrated reasonable rookie proficiency and competence at the position in his limited mop-up duty, I don't see any evidence that anyone can say with absolute certainty that the kid was going to be a disaster. Had he gone into the Saints game and looked like Matt Leinart in the preseason a few years ago, then you'd definitely have a case. But he didn't. He actually looked pretty good in garbage time. Put up better numbers in 5 minutes than Taylor did over the course of the previous 55 minutes. Of course, it was against a Saints defense that had mailed it in, but at that point of the season, Taylor had put the Bills into desperation mode at the position. So it was better than nothing. Taylor literally gave them no other choice but to start someone else at QB.

 

 

Your argument concerning Peterman's "readiness" is further weakened by the kid's performance against the Colts. There was a situation where a rookie QB could absolutely be expected to fall apart -- playing a game in never-before-seen, historically bad weather conditions, further compounded by his previous start against the Chargers, and he went in there and looked every bit the part of an NFL QB, especially on the TD throw to Benjamin. 

 

So to claim that McDermott is an unbelievable idiot because it was clearly obvious to everyone in the world that Peterman was going to throw 5 INTs against the Chargers is simply not true. 

 

And it's even dumber to use that as some kind of support for keeping Taylor as the starter, since he was primarily responsible for putting the team in such a dire situation on offense. 

[Billsfan1972]

7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Why does it have to be when the Bills are eliminated when you don't provide anything of substance on here except obsess over Sammy Watkins?

I state a lot of facts all the time....you generally complain and even made a complaining thread after we made the playoffs.

 

They do that because we aren't a threat throwing the ball.

No they don't throw the ball.....  No idea if they are a threat or not with lousy OC, Playcalling and formations that every team sees and know.

 

How about you cite something of substance.......  Oops asking too much.

1 minute ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

Was Roethlisberger ready for the Jaguars game? He threw 5 INTs too. 

 

I agree with you -- It's highly unlikely, considering his resume. Dude probably just had a really bad day at the office. Worst game of the 2017 NFL season by a QB.

 

Was Peterman ready? Considering he demonstrated reasonable rookie proficiency and competence at the position in his limited mop-up duty, I don't see any evidence that anyone can say with absolute certainty that the kid was going to be a disaster. Had he gone into the Saints game and looked like Matt Leinart in the preseason a few years ago, then you'd definitely have a case. But he didn't. He actually looked pretty good in garbage time. Put up better numbers in 5 minutes than Taylor did over the course of the previous 55 minutes. Of course, it was against a Saints defense that had mailed it in, but at that point of the season, Taylor had put the Bills into desperation mode at the position. So it was better than nothing. Taylor literally gave them no other choice but to start someone else at QB.

 

 

Your argument concerning Peterman's "readiness" is further weakened by the kid's performance against the Colts. There was a situation where a rookie QB could absolutely be expected to fall apart -- playing a game in never-before-seen, historically bad weather conditions, further compounded by his previous start against the Chargers, and he went in there and looked every bit the part of an NFL QB, especially on the TD throw to Benjamin. 

 

So to claim that McDermott is an unbelievable idiot because it was clearly obvious to everyone in the world that Peterman was going to throw 5 INTs against the Chargers is simply not true. 

 

And it's even dumber to use that as some kind of support for keeping Taylor as the starter, since he was primarily responsible for putting the team in such a dire situation on offense. 

You mean when the foot was 100% off the gas and primarily backup only......  

 

Yes the INT Tyrod threw that bounced off Clay's hands?  

 

Oh oh, here comes the defense of Peterman and the DiMarco int vs. LAC........ 

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

No they don't throw the ball.....  No idea if they are a threat or not with lousy OC, Playcalling and formations that every team sees and know.

 

How about you cite something of substance.......  Oops asking too much.

 

They don't throw the ball?  Really?

We have 476 pass attempts and 487 rushing attempts.  That is almost completely balanced.

Is that enough substance for you?

 

I feel like bumping your pathetic "enough is enough thread" because that was legendarily bad.

[grb]

23 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said:

 

Yes this is true, the starter gets credit for the win even though NP didn't finish the game.

 

And I don't believe it would have come down to Joe Webbs play/overtime anyway had NP not left the game in the 3rd quarter.

 

Bottom line is that NP still showed a lot of promise this year despite the Chargers debacle.

 

Nope. This is the bottom line :

 

Nathan Peterman,

• 24-49
• 49.0% completion
• 252 yds
• 5.14 yds per attempt
• 21 yds, longest completion
• 2 touchdowns
• 5 interceptions
• 38.4 passer rating
• 11.1 qbr
• 63 yds per game

[Billsfan1972]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

They don't throw the ball?  Really?

We have 476 pass attempts and 487 rushing attempts.  That is almost completely balanced.

Is that enough substance for you?

 

I feel like bumping your pathetic "enough is enough thread" because that was legendarily bad.

Actually that is 31st in passing attempts and 6th in rushing attempts......  That pretty much tells you that other teams are prepped for rushes.....

 

Balanced in the NFL is closer to 55%......  Anomalies would be a team like Jacksonville, which had 6-7 blowouts......

 

Keep on posting stoopid comments....

[twoandfourteen]

44 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

No it was the expected disaster and result 95% of professionals and those not with skin in the game (i.e. fans) predicted would happen.  A complete disaster/meltdown/5 Ints maybe not, but the best case scenario would have been a bad game, which is what one expectrs from a 5th round rookie in his first start.....

 

1. Not true. Revisionist history is a fool's game.

 

2. All the more reason why their opinions mean nothing, especially after the fact. On this one, I'll side with the guys who had something to lose. 

 

3. After multiple very poor performances, Taylor set the bar so low with 56 yards against New Orleans that taking this risk was a preferable option. 

 

What else?

[Billsfan1972]

6 minutes ago, grb said:

 

Nope. This is the bottom line :

 

Nathan Peterman,

• 24-49
• 49.0% completion
• 252 yds
• 5.14 yds per attempt
• 21 yds, longest completion
• 2 touchdowns
• 5 interceptions
• 38.4 passer rating
• 11.1 qbr
• 63 yds per game

HOF or MVP??????

[teef]

20 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Again I've been a fan since 1972 and yes I did not like that they went into tank mode with the trades in the preseason.  I have been honest and forthright about it.  Never had I started a season under the premise that they aren't playing for season, but draft picks and 2-3 seasons down the road.  

 

That is what this staff preached and their actions showed prior to week 1.

 

I can't stand how they run the offence and that Shady is seemingly stuffed every first down rush as the opponents stack the line and know the call.

 

Turtling in the second half and the Prevent Offense kills me.

 

A lot that has turned me off this year, but I have watched and cheered every game.   

but the bills didn't go into tank more with the trades in the preseason.  they got rid of guys while getting valuable picks.  apparently they felt they didn't need the bloated contracts and ****ty attitudes to win, and they were right.  

 

as other have mentioned, the bills offense is seriously limited by the qb.  i say this as someone who likes tt.  like him or not, i can admit he just doesn't throw the ball well on a consistent basis.  i don't mind tt on this team, but he certainly isn't a guy you build around.  if they draft a qb high, and keep tt on for a year or two while the next guy learns, i'm more than ok with that.