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Just now, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Even the great ones can fall short. No one is undefeated. Rodgers has only won a single Super Bowl. Brady has lost two Super Bowls and should've lost a third before the Russell Wilson pass at the goal line. You haven't seen Eli Manning and Joe Flacco throw interceptions? They suck and have three rings between them.

 

Cousins is in just his third season as a starter in the NFL. In his first season he finished 5th in passer rating, 7th in DYAR, 6th in QBR. His second season - 3rd in DYAR, 6th in QBR, 3rd in total passing yards.

 

The guy is a stud. We should throw a parade if Cousins ever puts on a Bills jersey.

 

An argument can be made the Pats should have lost last year and also against Carolina.  Remember John Kasey kicked the ball out of bounds on the last possession of the game?  Brady got the ball back at the 40 and got into FG position pretty soon after that.  Would have been much harder from the 20.

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2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

The guy is a stud. We should throw a parade if Cousins ever puts on a Bills jersey.

Well, if we get him, I certainly hope it works out.  I'll give Beane and McDermott the benefit of the doubt until they're proven wrong.

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I found the Cousins tie to Buffalo.

"Kirk Cousins Is Selling Buffalo Nickel T-Shirts"

 

Deciphered through a secret coder. Cousins to Buffalo for a Nickle and some T-shirts

 

http://www.redskins.com/news/blog/article-1/Coinage-For-A-Cause-Kirk-Cousins-Is-Selling-Buffalo-Nickel-T-Shirts/8468280a-d31c-444f-9aa5-05aa1f34b7a1

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1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:

The guy is a stud. We should throw a parade if Cousins ever puts on a Bills jersey.

 

I'm def weary of Cousins.  As I said I think he's above average, but not a franchise carrier.  He can do some things well, but he seems like he needs too much around him to win, he doesn't mask deficiencies like Rodgers or Brady.  Now, I'm fine with that if we're paying in the Tyrod range (16-18m) but since he's going to command closer to 28m a year, it's just too much for me and limits what you can do in other areas.

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6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Even the great ones can fall short. No one is undefeated. Rodgers has only won a single Super Bowl. Brady has lost two Super Bowls and should've lost a third before the Russell Wilson pass at the goal line. You haven't seen Eli Manning and Joe Flacco throw interceptions? They suck and have three rings between them.

 

Cousins is in just his third season as a starter in the NFL. In his first season he finished 5th in passer rating, 7th in DYAR, 6th in QBR. His second season - 3rd in DYAR, 6th in QBR, 3rd in total passing yards.

 

The guy is a stud. We should throw a parade if Cousins ever puts on a Bills jersey.

Cousins has shown he can run an offense if surrounded with some talent. The Bills have the cap room and draft picks to add cheap players to offense. You ride with Cousins for a couple years. Better than what we've been doing IMO

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1 minute ago, essential said:

 

I'm def weary of Cousins.  As I said I think he's above average, but not a franchise carrier.  He can do some things well, but he seems like he needs too much around him to win, he doesn't mask deficiencies like Rodgers or Brady.  Now, I'm fine with that if we're paying in the Tyrod range (16-18m) but since he's going to command closer to 28m a year, it's just too much for me and limits what you can do in other areas.

Rogers and Brady are each in a class of their own, and Brady is in a class above Rogers.  If that is the standard then we will likely never get a suitable QB for some.

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5 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Cheektowaga Charlie?

 

 

LOL   I was just randomly thinking of names    -  what a coincidence 

Or maybe it's something I remember from childhood.  

 

I did say I have / had relatives in Dunkirk that I have not seen in 40 -50 years.  

 

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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Rogers and Brady are each in a class of their own, and Brady is in a class above Rogers.  If that is the standard then we will likely never get a suitable QB for some.

This is a good post.  I was going to say that the Brees/Brady/Rogers of the world are hard to come by.  Everyone wants them, but they don't exactly grow on trees.  NE really lucked out with Brady, I don't think there was anyway they envisioned their 6th round backup QB becoming one of the best of all time.

 

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10 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Rogers and Brady are each in a class of their own, and Brady is in a class above Rogers.  If that is the standard then we will likely never get a suitable QB for some.

 

Understand that.  Cousins is fine at a certain price, I just think you get in trouble when you pay top tier money for someone that isn't top tier talent.  It's kind of like the Bengals paying Dalton to me ... you can do worse but he can't carry that team and they locked themselves into mediocracy when they signed him long term.  He did well when he had top talent all around him, but once it's not an ideal situation (Sanu left, Eifert hurt, oline worse) he regressed, he didn't mask that.  It's tough to keep a situation ideal over multiple years.

 

Now, Dalton isn't making what Cousins will get, and while I think Cousins is better than Dalton, I think they are similar in that they need a very good surrounding cast to win.  Washington has a better oline, better skill position talent, and he has been in that system for several years and still doesn't dominate.  As I said, he may be better than what we've had, but that doesn't make him a 30m QB.

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4 minutes ago, essential said:

 

Understand that.  Cousins is fine at a certain price, I just think you get in trouble when you pay top tier money for someone that isn't top tier talent.  It's kind of like the Bengals paying Dalton to me ... you can do worse but he can't carry that team and they locked themselves into mediocracy when they signed him long term.  He did well when he had top talent all around him, but once it's not an ideal situation (Sanu left, Eifert hurt, oline worse) he regressed, he didn't mask that.  It's tough to keep a situation ideal over multiple years.

 

Now, Dalton isn't making what Cousins will get, and while I think Cousins is better than Dalton, I think they are similar in that they need a very good surrounding cast to win.  Washington has a better oline, better skill position talent, and he has been in that system for several years and still doesn't dominate.  As I said, he may be better than what we've had, but that doesn't make him a 30m QB.

Not this year, they're really banged up.  They've had to bring guys in and make a bunch of adjustments due to the injuries.  In Cousins' defense, I don't think he can be judged too much this year due to their OLine injuries.

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3 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said:

Will be deleting all posts but did want to share one last piece of information.  Stadium will be open air. Will seat 67,000

I know I am not appreciated here

 

dude, don't listen to the haters.  Stay on the site.  Most ppl appreciate whatever info you have.  

5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I am ambivalent about Cousins, but he's definitely better than Dalton imo.

 

same here.  Cousins is not worth the price, IMO.  Would rather have Teddy or Bradford and surround them with the extra $$ with a top OL, WR, and fix the DL and LB situation.  

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1 hour ago, Yav said:

I don't understand some of you posters. 

 

If you don't like whats being shared or you don't believe the poster to be honest or have true inside info then why are you reading the post in the first place?

Then you come in and post something trying to call the posters out and make fun of them. All you're doing is keep the post active. Get over it and move on. Don't open the post, don't read the post and don't reply to the post. 

 

It's a public board where any member can start a thread and should be able to enjoy a conversation over said thread. Seriously are some of you that miserable in your life that you feel the need to get on the internet, hide behind a keyboard and start crap on a message board? 

 

Decorum on this message board has slipped considerably in recent years. There are several quality posters who aren't here anymore because ITG's felt the need to lambaste those they didn't agree with.

 

People posting "inside info"  who are later proven wrong will be known. And if you don't believe or agree with what they're saying now, a rational discussion about why can be a good thing. Then again, an increasing amount of posters cannot debate others with why they believe the way they do.

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3 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said:

Do you think the bills don’t have contingency plans? Are you stupid.  They run through what if scenarios.  My source does not work for the Bills today but he did and is still well connected at one Bills Drive.  He will not reveal source to me but we are hunting buddies I met with my connections with bills.  I thought it was bs until he revealed the Benjamin trade before it was announced and told me peterman was starting against the Chargers.  He is in investment banking today that is how I know about the stadium

 

i will now exit the site and keep info to myself.  Not appreciated

Well Don your information is appreciated but tuck in your vagina seriously. Don't let the trolls make you take your ball and go home. 

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