Taylor starting

[xRUSHx]

1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Cousins isn't going somewhere where he's not getting a multi-year deal and he's going to cost a lot of money.

 

We aren't drafting a QB high AND getting Cousins.  Both of those can't/won't/aren't happening.

 

As much as you hate this, Tyrod Taylor has a SIGNIFICANTLY better chance of being the Buffalo Bills starting QB in 2018 than Kirk Cousins.

Haha, there it is. Oh Tyrod Trans still loves you

16 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

We all make mistakes.    easy fellas.   We want to welcome Transplant  to the Dark Side and not drive him away.   

It doesn't look like he is ready yet

[GoBills808]

9 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

God stop throwing that term out.

 

Cousins has had the good fortune of great offensive minds calling his plays and as a HC.  He's a good player, but putting Cousins in a category or anywhere close to a category reserved for just 4 QBs today (Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Big Ben) is absolutely ludicrous.

 

This conversation is pointless, anyway.  Our staff will draft a QB... possibly bring a cheap vet QB in if they decide not to pick up Taylor's option and keep him another year, but talking about Cousins as an Elite QB brings memories of posters calling Colin Kaepernick & Ryan Tannehill Elite back in 2013/2014.

 

You missed my post a page back. Feel free to read it. He's unquestionably in that range, I don't know why it's so hard to accept that. Comparing him to Kaepernick and Tannehill is either completely ignorant of their respective play or deliberate obfuscation.

[transplantbillsfan]

2 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

Haha, there it is. Oh Tyrod Trans still loves you

 

Just talkin reality, bro.  Taylor's contract as it's set up is at least $5 million less than what Cousins's annual salary will be and, what's more, Taylor's contract will expire after 2018 and Buffalo will be completely off the hook in terms of any financial obligation.

 

It's the perfect contract to transition to a new rookie QB without pressuring him to carry the weight of the franchise in year 1.

 

At this exact moment, I'd say it's more likely that Taylor's option will not be picked up and he'll be gone and we go with Peterman, our drafted rookie and a cheap vet FA QB... or maybe just Joe Webb.  But I don't think it's significantly more likely and I think the ending of this year will factor in, as well.

 

Still 3 more games left, hopefully more

[Woodman19]

12 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

why is it that  so many fans feel that nate has the skills to get us wins? how is it that so many people are banging the drum for whatever they see in him.

 

i am  wanting to see nate play . we are going to need a whole different approach in these next 3 games than the same tired tyrod plan.

it's time for the staff to show if they think they are playoff caliber or not.

It's probably because Peterman does all the things that we wish Tyrod did more.

 

He isn't scared to trust his receivers, throw into single coverage, make quick reads, get the ball out fast and tries aggressively to push the ball down the field.  He may be too aggressive right now, but the fact that he has a willingness is a plus in most books.

[billsredneck1]

Just now, Woodman19 said:

It's probably because Peterman does all the things that we wish Tyrod did more.

 

He isn't scared to trust his receivers, throw into single coverage, make quick reads, get the ball out fast and tries aggressively to push the ball down the field.  He may be too aggressive right now, but the fact that he has a willingness is a plus in most books.

well then it's the question of who can we win/change things up and create an offense.....that isn't dependent on shady winning the games for us...

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

The dark side, eh?

 

So I guess that makes me the Jedi?  Maybe I should stay right where I am, afterall

the bad storm troopers wear white   ergo go to  black 

[transplantbillsfan]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

You missed my post a page back. Feel free to read it. He's unquestionably in that range, I don't know why it's so hard to accept that. Comparing him to Kaepernick and Tannehill is either completely ignorant of their respective play or deliberate obfuscation.

 

I didn't miss your post.

 

You posted stats.

 

I've also said that he's benefitted greatly from offensive minds, because he clearly has.  McVay might be one of the best offensive minds in years and even his current OC is the protégé of a pretty amazing offensive mind who simply failed as a HC.

 

 

And no I'm sorry, the comparison the Kaep and Tannehill is appropriate.  I'm not trying to confuse the issue in any way because you seem like you're being the victim of a moment or are just stats obsessed.

 

Cousins is unquestionably in the range of Brees/Brady/Big Ben/ Rodgers?  Seriously?!  You can't actually think that... you're just arguing to argue now, right?

 

I hope so, because that statement is just ridiculous.

 

 

Cousins is a great plug and chug QB with a solid offensive staff and good to great weapons.  He's not a guy who will carry a team like Buffalo on his back through the playoffs, particularly with this offensive staff.

[Teddy KGB]

2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I didn't miss your post.

 

You posted stats.

 

I've also said that he's benefitted greatly from offensive minds, because he clearly has.  McVay might be one of the best offensive minds in years and even his current OC is the protégé of a pretty amazing offensive mind who simply failed as a HC.

 

 

And no I'm sorry, the comparison the Kaep and Tannehill is appropriate.  I'm not trying to confuse the issue in any way because you seem like you're being the victim of a moment or are just stats obsessed.

 

Cousins is unquestionably in the range of Brees/Brady/Big Ben/ Rodgers?  Seriously?!  You can't actually think that... you're just arguing to argue now, right?

 

I hope so, because that statement is just ridiculous.

 

 

Cousins is a great plug and chug QB with a solid offensive staff and good to great weapons.  He's not a guy who will carry a team like Buffalo on his back through the playoffs, particularly with this offensive staff.

 

Perine and Crowder are the best ????‍♂️??‍♂️

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I didn't miss your post.

 

You posted stats.

 

I've also said that he's benefitted greatly from offensive minds, because he clearly has.  McVay might be one of the best offensive minds in years and even his current OC is the protégé of a pretty amazing offensive mind who simply failed as a HC.

 

 

And no I'm sorry, the comparison the Kaep and Tannehill is appropriate.  I'm not trying to confuse the issue in any way because you seem like you're being the victim of a moment or are just stats obsessed.

 

Cousins is unquestionably in the range of Brees/Brady/Big Ben/ Rodgers?  Seriously?!  You can't actually think that... you're just arguing to argue now, right?

 

I hope so, because that statement is just ridiculous.

 

 

Cousins is a great plug and chug QB with a solid offensive staff and good to great weapons.  He's not a guy who will carry a team like Buffalo on his back through the playoffs, particularly with this offensive staff.

LOL good to great weapons. Next.

[transplantbillsfan]

29 minutes ago, McBean said:

Cousins would be the best QB we’ve had here since Kelly.

 

Do I think we get him? No.

 

My prediction is the Darnold rumors are true and we trade the house to go get him.

 

Just my opinion.

 

And I would love this just based on what I've heard/read/seen.

 

But if our staff goes through the whole offseason and sees Darnold as worthy of trading both our 1sts this year along with probably next year and another draft pick, sobeit.

[Teddy KGB]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

LOL good to great weapons. Next.

 

Cousins gets all the weapons and great coordinators. 

 

Tyrod gets no weapons and bad coordinators. 

 

Taylor 60 ish yards vs pats 

Cutler 180 yard 1st half vs pats. 

 

?

[GoBills808]

Perine, Doctson, Grant, Davis/Reed, and Crowder. Good to great weapons.

 

Yikes and double yikes.

[transplantbillsfan]

34 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Actually I think Cousins is the perfect QB for Dennison and the system we are running. If they came in already thinking that they would target Cousins everything they've done makes a lot of sense. Institute an offensive scheme that fits his talents. Draft a similar QB in the late rounds that you plan on being his long term backup. Bring in a bunch of possession receivers. Clear a ton of cap space to make way for his contract. Gather draft picks to fill the numerous holes around him.

 

If I had to make a decision I'd say take a QB with our first pick and use the other picks on the rest of the team. But if the choice is Cousins or trade the farm to move up for a QB I'll take Cousins no question. He is a really good QB and he would end up in a better situation here than he has now. That would give us 5 picks in the first 100 picks to fill the team in. The more I think about it the more I like it.

 

As I've said, I like Cousins and think he's a good QB.  I just don't think he's great and certainly not Elite.

 

I want a guy who has the chance to be Elite.

 

From the looks/sounds of it, Darnold/Rosen/Mayfield all have a chance to be generational/franchise-changing type QBs.

 

That's what I want.

 

 

We have plenty of draft picks this year and next to go get him if we want him.

 

Actually, the one QB I could see us going out and getting even before Kirk Cousins is Andrew Luck depending on where the Colts fall in the draft and what they want to do with that draft pick if they end up #2 or #3.

 

I want Andrew Luck first, the 1st or 2nd or (maybe) 3rd best QB prospect next, Kirk Cousins third.

 

In the middle option I think there's a good chance Taylor remains as the bridge guy for one year.

[transplantbillsfan]

22 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Perine, Doctson, Grant, Davis/Reed, and Crowder. Good to great weapons.

 

Yikes and double yikes.

 

Kyle Shanahan / Sean McVay/ Jay Gruden.

 

 

 

Yiiiiiiiikes 

[GoBills808]

45 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Cousins is a great plug and chug QB with a solid offensive staff and good to great weapons.

45 minutes ago you said this. 

 

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 Our staff will draft a QB... possibly bring a cheap vet QB in if they decide not to pick up Taylor's option and keep him another year, but talking about Cousins as an Elite QB brings memories of posters calling Colin Kaepernick & Ryan Tannehill Elite back in 2013/2014.

 

 

Thanks.  Now I don't have to pay attention during the FA period or watch the draft.

 

Hopefully the FA vet is Colin Kaepernick.

1 hour ago, xRUSHx said:

Fans just want to move on from Tyrod IMO

 

Can't you just wait 3 more weeks unless we're preparing for a playoff game?

 

The regular season is not just an extended pre season.

[xRUSHx]

11 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Thanks.  Now I don't have to pay attention during the FA period or watch the draft.

 

Hopefully the FA vet is Colin Kaepernick.

 

Can't you just wait 3 more weeks unless we're preparing for a playoff game?

 

The regular season is not just an extended pre season.

Nope I do not want to watch mr54yards anymore. Sadly if the Bills are losing at halftime with Tyrod as the starter this weekend Im going home because I know it is over. I will stick around to watch and support Peterman though. I can not wait for the 2018 draft.

Edited December 12, 2017 by xRUSHx

[reddogblitz]

10 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

Nope I do not want to watch mr54yards anymore. Sadly if the Bills are losing at halftime with Tyrod as the starter this weekend Im going home because I know it is over.

 

Ok, let's go with mr38.7rate instead. 

 

You do realize that Nate's best career outing is 66 yards, right?

Edited December 12, 2017 by reddogblitz

[xRUSHx]

10 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Ok, let's go with mr38.7rate instead. 

 

You do realize that Nate's best career outing is 57 yards, right?

You do realize he is a rookie in his first season right?

 

I do not think Peterman is any type of franchise worthy QB but I do want this staff to evaluate him in live action so next year they will know more and Peterman will have experence if called upon.

 

With Tyrod we know we have zero chance to win any of the games left but with Peterman we just do not know. IMO

Also Tyrod should be gone so why waste more time on him, move on and end it.

 

What is funny is I think I read that Peterman did more in one half against the Dolts in a blizzard then Tyrod did in 4quarters against NO in good sunny weather.

 

Edited December 12, 2017 by xRUSHx

[reddogblitz]

1 minute ago, xRUSHx said:

You do realize he is a rookie in his first season right?

 

I do not think Peterman is any type of franchise worthy QB but I do want this staff to evaluate him in live action so next year they will know more and Peterman will have experence if called upon.

 

With Tyrod we know we have zero chance to win any of the games left but with Peterman we just do not know. IMO

Also Tyrod should be gone so why waste more time on him, move on and end it.

 

 

I do.

 

When Ii read stuff like this on here I'm reminded of the movie where Jack Nicholson yells at Tom Cruise or somebody, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH".

 

I would paraphrase that for Bills fans such as yourself "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE PLAYOFFS".

 

Here we have a real shot (65% on some playoff sites) to end this drought thing in less than 3 weeks.  But instead of moving all the chips int he center of the table and going for it, you prefer to treat the playoff stretch run as an extended pre season and play a guy that makes horrible decisions and multitudes of rookie mistakes.

 

F$ck next year. 

 

Lets's win this thing and worry about next year next month (or the month after that ).

 

[xRUSHx]

13 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I do.

 

When Ii read stuff like this on here I'm reminded of the movie where Jack Nicholson yells at Tom Cruise or somebody, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH".

 

I would paraphrase that for Bills fans such as yourself "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE PLAYOFFS".

 

Here we have a real shot (65% on some playoff sites) to end this drought thing in less than 3 weeks.  But instead of moving all the chips int he center of the table and going for it, you prefer to treat the playoff stretch run as an extended pre season and play a guy that makes horrible decisions and multitudes of rookie mistakes.

 

F$ck next year. 

 

Lets's win this thing and worry about next year next month (or the month after that ).

 

 

Hey man I would love for the Bills to make the playoffs but I do not think it will happen. The only way I think we have even a slim chance of doing it is with Peterman a kid that can play QB over Tyrod the RB pretending to be a QB. That NO game showed everyone who Tyrod really is.

 

Do you think that NE and Miami will not play the Bills the same way other teams have against Tyrod? His goose is cooked, 1-2-3 kick. Make him be a QB because he fails at it. If Tyrod plays we will be lucky to win against Miami at home but NE,Miami on the road? Forgetaboutit!!

 

Want to move the chips in the center of the table, I'm all in on Peterman to finish the season but Tyrod I will take my money and spend it somewhere else, I have seen that horror show for too many years.

Edited December 12, 2017 by xRUSHx

[transplantbillsfan]

55 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

45 minutes ago you said this. 

 

 

Yes and I stand by that.

 

But it's like a scale.

 

 

Good offensive staff + Good offensive weapons  =  Fantastic offensive staff + Average offensive weapons  =  Average offensive staff + Fantastic offensive weapons

 

 

He's had a better than solid offensive staff his entire career as a starting QB.  He's had a fantastic offensive staff for most of his time, which counterbalances the average weapons he's had.  Actually, considering the offensive minds he's had in there, it probably more than counterbalances it.

 

 

Buffalo has, at best, an Average offensive staff and average offensive weapons, overall.  And I think "average offensive staff" is mighty generous.

Edited December 12, 2017 by transplantbillsfan

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yes and I stand by that.

 

But it's like a scale.

 

 

Good offensive staff + Good offensive weapons  =  Fantastic offensive staff + Average offensive weapons  =  Average offensive staff + Fantastic offensive weapons

 

 

He's had a better than solid offensive staff his entire career as a starting QB.  He's had a fantastic offensive staff for most of his time, which counterbalances the average weapons he's had.  Actually, considering the offensive minds he's had in there, it probably more than counterbalances it.

 

 

Buffalo has, at best, an Average offensive staff and average offensive weapons, overall.  And I think "average offensive staff" is mighty generous.

Nope. 

 

McCoy>>>Perine/Kelley/Thompson

 

Clay<Reed

 

Jones>Doctson

Thompson>Grant

Matthews>Crowder

 

Bills offensive line >>>Redskins offensive line

 

Cousins does a lot with very little. That's why he's on the cusp of being an elite QB. I don't think you watch enough of Washington to know what you're talking about.

[transplantbillsfan]

8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Nope. 

 

McCoy>>>Perine/Kelley/Thompson

 

Clay<Reed

 

Jones>Doctson

Thompson>Grant

Matthews>Crowder

 

Bills offensive line >>>Redskins offensive line

 

Cousins does a lot with very little. That's why he's on the cusp of being an elite QB. I don't think you watch enough of Washington to know what you're talking about.

 

If you say so.  You clearly must be right.  My opinion is clearly wrong because it differs from yours.

 

I concede I must be wrong in your mind because you're so utterly confident that Cousins belongs in Brees/Roethlisberger/Brady/Rodgers territory.

 

My bad for disagreeing.  I'll go sit in a corner since I still do, very strongly   

 

 

 

 

PS:  It's funny that you like didn't address the post you were responding to in any way whatsoever regarding offensive staffs, which is the crux of why Cousins has been so productive  

Edited December 12, 2017 by transplantbillsfan

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

If you say so.  You clearly must be right.  My opinion is clearly wrong because it differs from yours.

 

I concede I must be wrong in your mind because you're so utterly confident that Cousins belongs in Brees/Roethlisberger/Brady/Rodgers territory.

 

My bad for disagreeing.  I'll go sit in a corner since I still do, very strongly   

My point is that if you're calling Buffalo's skill position players 'average' and equating them with Washington's, well...that's not correct. They're significantly worse and Cousins continues to perform at a high level. He's absolutely in that territory.

[Doc]

The guy I trust says Peterman will be able to practice Thursday.  No mention of who starts. 

[transplantbillsfan]

7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

My point is that if you're calling Buffalo's skill position players 'average' and equating them with Washington's, well...that's not correct. They're significantly worse and Cousins continues to perform at a high level. He's absolutely in that territory.

 

Nope, he's absolutely not in that Elite territory.  At least in my world....

 

 

 

ya know....

 

 

 

reality   

[dave mcbride]

58 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

 

Hey man I would love for the Bills to make the playoffs but I do not think it will happen. The only way I think we have even a slim chance of doing it is with Peterman a kid that can play QB over Tyrod the RB pretending to be a QB. That NO game showed everyone who Tyrod really is.

 

Do you think that NE and Miami will not play the Bills the same way other teams have against Tyrod? His goose is cooked, 1-2-3 kick. Make him be a QB because he fails at it. If Tyrod plays we will be lucky to win against Miami at home but NE,Miami on the road? Forgetaboutit!!

 

Want to move the chips in the center of the table, I'm all in on Peterman to finish the season but Tyrod I will take my money and spend it somewhere else, I have seen that horror show for too many years.

The problem with playing Peterman against Miami is that he will be absolutely destroyed by their pass rush. Their front is good. Taylor, whatever his flaws, has demonstrated in four games that he can play well against Miami. That is indisputable, and his escapability helps immensely. Here are his stats in four games vs. Miami:

 

21/29 for 277 yards, 3 TDs 0 INTs; 3 carries for 12 yards

 

11/12 for 181 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs; 10 carries for 44 yards

 

14/28 for 221 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs; 7 carries for 35 yards and 1 TD

 

26/39 for 329 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs; 12 carries for 60 yards

 

His rating against Miami over these four games?? 121.2 . He has averaged 9.3 ypa. Extrapolated over 16 games, it amounts to 4,032 yards, 32 TDs, and 0 INTs plus 654 rushing yards and 4 rushing TDs. 

The Bills averaged 32 ppg in those four games too.

Edited December 12, 2017 by dave mcbride

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Nope, he's absolutely not in that Elite territory.  At least in my world....

 

 

 

ya know....

 

 

 

reality   

The reality is since 2015 when Cousins was named starter, his ANY/A (best stat for measuring QB play IMO and others) goes:

 

2015: 8th

2016:4th

2017:13th

 

Brady's is thus:

 

2015: 4th

2016: 2nd

2017: 1st

 

Brees:

 

2015: 5th

2016: 5th

2017: 2nd

 

Roethlisberger? Here:

 

2015: 7th

2016: 9th

2017: 12th

 

And Rodgers:

 

2015: 21st

2016: 6th

2017: 14th

 

So again...the reality is that according to the best QB statistic available, over the last three years as a starter Cousins has actually outperformed both Roethlisberger AND Rodgers, yet you don't think he's even close to their level. Which tells me you aren't paying attention, hence my comment re: you watching the Redskins. 

[transplantbillsfan]

18 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

My point is that if you're calling Buffalo's skill position players 'average' and equating them with Washington's, well...that's not correct. They're significantly worse and Cousins continues to perform at a high level. He's absolutely in that territory.

 

I've also gotta say... I'm surprised at how inherently biased you are.  You ultimately appear to be just another "the grass is always greener on the other side" kinda guy and your overrating of Cousins is indicative of that.  And what's worse, you try to do that by diminishing the talent surrounding him in Washington and just completely ignoring any discussion of how superior his offensive coordinators have been. 

 

Talent wise, Shady is clearly the better back than the Washington trio... I'll give you that.  Though Thomson was looking really good before he was injured.  And Reed is better than Clay.  Your forgetting he also has Vernon Davis, who is probably even still as good as Clay.  Josh Doctson was a 1st round draft, yet you act like Zay Jones is clearly superior to him.  Really weird.  Jamison Crowder is as good or better a #2 than our #2 option, or at least on par with them.

 

And the Redskins OL, when healthy, is better than ours.  They haven't been healthy much of the season, but neither has ours with Miller and Glenn out most of the year.  But the last few years Cousins has had his blind side protected by one of the best LTs in the game.

 

 

You're making me sound like I hate Cousins and I don't.  It's just ridiculous to put him in the category you do.

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

The reality is since 2015 when Cousins was named starter, his ANY/A (best stat for measuring QB play IMO and others) goes:

 

2015: 8th

2016:4th

2017:13th

 

Brady's is thus:

 

2015: 4th

2016: 2nd

2017: 1st

 

Brees:

 

2015: 5th

2016: 5th

2017: 2nd

 

Roethlisberger? Here:

 

2015: 7th

2016: 9th

2017: 12th

 

And Rodgers:

 

2015: 21st

2016: 6th

2017: 14th

 

So again...the reality is that according to the best QB statistic available, over the last three years as a starter Cousins has actually outperformed both Roethlisberger AND Rodgers, yet you don't think he's even close to their level. Which tells me you aren't paying attention, hence my comment re: you watching the Redskins. 

 

Do you think Cousins is as good as Roethlisberger and Rodgers? 

[SaviorPeterman]

Please god let Peterman start so this game will be worth watching even if we lose as expected.

[BADOLBILZ]

27 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Nope. 

 

McCoy>>>Perine/Kelley/Thompson

 

Clay<Reed

 

Jones>Doctson

Thompson>Grant

Matthews>Crowder

 

Bills offensive line >>>Redskins offensive line

 

Cousins does a lot with very little. That's why he's on the cusp of being an elite QB. I don't think you watch enough of Washington to know what you're talking about.

 

Cousins hasn't had a lot to work with but the weapons they brought into the regular season were clearly better.

 

 I'd have loved to see what Terrelle Pryor could have done in Buffalo.     He was a complete washout with Cousins in Washington but I think he and Taylor could have been a tremendous fit.

 

Cousins could do a lot more with the "throw me open" talent the Bills have at WR though......he's not afraid to throw interceptions.

 

They aren't exact opposites as QB's but it's really hard to compare Cousins and Taylor apples to apples because they impact the game in different ways.    

[Hapless Bills Fan]

22 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Brown will be a UFA who doesn't need to be cut.   Same for Humber IIRC.

 

You recall correctly.

 

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I've also gotta say... I'm surprised at how inherently biased you are.  You ultimately appear to be just another "the grass is always greener on the other side" kinda guy and your overrating of Cousins is indicative of that.  And what's worse, you try to do that by diminishing the talent surrounding him in Washington and just completely ignoring any discussion of how superior his offensive coordinators have been. 

 

Talent wise, Shady is clearly the better back than the Washington trio... I'll give you that.  Though Thomson was looking really good before he was injured.  And Reed is better than Clay.  Your forgetting he also has Vernon Davis, who is probably even still as good as Clay.  Josh Doctson was a 1st round draft, yet you act like Zay Jones is clearly superior to him.  Really weird.  Jamison Crowder is as good or better a #2 than our #2 option, or at least on par with them.

 

And the Redskins OL, when healthy, is better than ours.  They haven't been healthy much of the season, but neither has ours with Miller and Glenn out most of the year.  But the last few years Cousins has had his blind side protected by one of the best LTs in the game.

 

 

You're making me sound like I hate Cousins and I don't.  It's just ridiculous to put him in the category you do.

 

 

 

 

Do you think Cousins is as good as Roethlisberger and Rodgers? 

The talent surrounding Cousins is really nothing special. Reed is clearly the better TE, but Davis is a shell of himself and absolutely not as good as Clay. Doctson hasn't proven a thing in the league and I'm comfortable putting Jones above him. Crowder is 100% NOT as good as Thompson, certainly not Matthews, and I didn't even list Benjamin because he hasn't played enough games for us to include him. But he's better than every one of their receivers combined.

 

To answer your question: if you're looking at it from a career-long perspective, obviously not. If you're looking at it from a three year window which I illustrated, he has CLEARLY outperformed both of them, is younger than both of them, and playing with significantly worse talent than Roethlisberger (Rodgers is comparable in offensive talent surrounding him IMO). If he's outperforming 50% of the QBs you list in your group over a three year period, how on earth can you say it's ridiculous to put him in that territory?

[Nick the Greek]

17 hours ago, xRUSHx said:

Sadly he could be dead on, Miami showed for a big monday night game against NE, Tyrod can't even show for a Sunday afternoon game at home. 

You’re gloom and he’s doom. 

 

DOOMED!

[BringBackOrton]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

14 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said:

Please god let Peterman start so this game will be worth watching even if we lose as expected.

 

Please just Go Away. 

First of all, what self-respecting actual fan of a team argues at length for their team's loss at home against a team with a worse record as you do?

 

Second of all, what self-respecting actual fan of a player, a rookie, prays to God to let him start when he's reportedly (as of yesterday) still in concussion protocol and will be restricted from practice and even study and meetings?  Do you actually hate the guy and want to see him perform badly?

 

 

[Doc]

26 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said:

Please god let Peterman start so this game will be worth watching even if we lose as expected.

 

It’s not expected. 

[Chadwick Bay Chad]

Just in from my source, Taylor will start remainder of season regardless of win/ lose.  Bills will not cut Taylor but if attempt to trade him for another low round pick.  Cousins definitely in mix to be next year qb.  Ties to Buffalo confirmed.   New stadium will be built in 2021or 2022.  Location picked.  Do not buy the hype about land study.   Go to land purchases for last two years and you can determine location.  Also check to see minority investment owners you will will see ties to Buffalo area.   This property in  four years will be most valuable in western New York. Not just where the stadium will be built but surrounding areas. Check transactions and building permits for new restaurants and you will see connections

[Teddy KGB]

Lol at the Taylor heads who scoff at Cousins.

 

Its just too much.      Can’t wait to see domdab quit the bills for adding a competent qb ???   

 

So in 6 years Mr Taylor has 8,347 yards and 49 tds 

 

In 5 years Mr. Cousins has 15,553 yards and 94 tds.  

 

Lay off the drugs kids.      Quit blaming others.     

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Cousins hasn't had a lot to work with but the weapons they brought into the regular season were clearly better.

 

 I'd have loved to see what Terrelle Pryor could have done in Buffalo.     He was a complete washout with Cousins in Washington but I think he and Taylor could have been a tremendous fit.

 

Cousins could do a lot more with the "throw me open" talent the Bills have at WR though......he's not afraid to throw interceptions.

 

They aren't exact opposites as QB's but it's really hard to compare Cousins and Taylor apples to apples because they impact the game in different ways.    

 

Pryor would take the bums job ?