If both Peterman and Taylor are cleared to play Sunday

[Bills Pimpin']

Just now, FearLess Price said:

 

Lmao. So how come NP didnt start vs the Cheifs when he was healthy?

Doesn't matter. When Peterman can't go this week and Taylor starts, win or lose, I hope he gets benched for the Pats game. Taylor can not beat the Pats in Gillette. 

[The Now Moment]

3 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

Right - who cares if he's ready (he already showed us he wasn't)?!  Trial by fire!

How have the Chargers done the last few weeks?  They've destroyed everyone.  I just think he should get another chance since Tyrod has played like hot garbage. JMO

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I'll take a bet that if Nate throws another 5 INT's in a half

I will  be the biggest TT asskisser  that there is for a week.  

 

You will have to be a pro Nate asskisser for the same duration. 

 

Any takers? 

[FearLess Price]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

When we started Peterman, some of the defensive players sounded happy including Micah Hyde.  

 

Peterman played well in the snow sunday and had some beautiful throws to Benjamin. I just don't think Tyrod has been good enough all year to put him back in.  3 points in a big game where the defense held Brady to 23 points with Gronk...unacceptable

Dude I'm just commenting about what the thread is about...the thread is literally about if both are healthy.  That's all I was doing haha

 

Those were really nice throws. Even NP couldnt score vs the Pats that game so thats another fallacy. You cant infer what players say and use it to support your take bc all comments have to be pc. You really think anyone on the team is gonna outright say they thought it was stupid to bench tyrod for a 5 int rookie? Hell no. You dont throw your teammates under the bus no matter how many picks they throw in the 1st half of a big game with the playoffs on the line. And wake up call LAC is not as good as NE. You don't actually believe that nonsense do you?

[The Now Moment]

3 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

 

Those were really nice throws. Even NP couldnt score vs the Pats that game so thats another fallacy. You cant infer what players say and use it to support your take bc all comments have to be pc. You really think anyone on the team is gonna outright say they thought it was stupid to bench tyrod for a 5 int rookie? Hell no. You dont throw your teammates under the bus no matter how many picks they throw in the 1st half of a big game with the playoffs on the line. And wake up call LAC is not as good as NE. You don't actually believe that nonsense do you?

Peterman had a nice drive down the field against the Patriots down to the 1.  That wasn't the point though.  As for the Chargers, they've been playing lights out.  They've been spanking everyone.  During this win streak, yeah I think they've been playing better football than the Pats have played the last few games.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, Buffalo30 said:

Peterman had a nice drive down the field against the Patriots down to the 1.  That wasn't the point though.  As for the Chargers, they've been playing lights out.  They've been spanking everyone.  During this win streak, yeah I think they've been playing better football than the Pats have played the last few games.  

 

I just don't subscribe to the opinion that Peterman is better than Tyrod right now.  He may be some day.  

 

Any argument to the contrary should point to their stats this year.  A Tebow-level completion percentage, and 5 picks in 50 passes.

[FearLess Price]

1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said:

Peterman had a nice drive down the field against the Patriots down to the 1.  That wasn't the point though.  As for the Chargers, they've been playing lights out.  They've been spanking everyone.  During this win streak, yeah I think they've been playing better football than the Pats have played the last few games.  

 

Dude are you really telling me the pats willmlpse to the chargers if they play them next week? Do you wanna bet who goes further in the afc playoffs? Dont make me bet on the pats to prove your campaigning. I hate the pats.

 

4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I'll take a bet that if Nate throws another 5 INT's in a half

I will  be the biggest TT asskisser  that there is for a week.  

 

You will have to be a pro Nate asskisser for the same duration. 

 

Any takers? 

 

Make it 3 ints a game if over 25 attemps and 2 ints for anything under 24 attempts and your on donky kong.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said:

Doesn't matter. When Peterman can't go this week and Taylor starts, win or lose, I hope he gets benched for the Pats game. Taylor can not beat the Pats in Gillette. 

I actually hope NP starts vs the Pats so posters like you can eat crow. We all know tyrod isnt leading a 30point comback and winning a game with no help from the running game. Some of us that dont ballwash petermen know he isnt gonna do any better.

[The Now Moment]

3 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

I just don't subscribe to the opinion that Peterman is better than Tyrod right now.  He may be some day.  

 

Any argument to the contrary should point to their stats this year.  A Tebow-level completion percentage, and 5 picks in 50 passes.

One game for a rookie against a team that has murdered every team they've played lately isn't a good game to point at for me.  I don't think Tyrod is better than him right now.  Tyrod has played like crap this year and especially lately.  Forgive me for not being so willing to jump behind him as our QB

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

 

Dude are you really telling me the pats willmlpse to the chargers if they play them next week? Do you wanna bet who goes further in the afc playoffs? Dont make me bet on the pats to prove your campaigning. I hate the pats.

 

 

Make it 3 ints a game if over 25 attemps and 2 ints for anything under 24 attempts and your on donky kong.

 

 

I actually hope NP starts vs the Pats so posters like you can eat crow. We all know tyrod isnt leading a 30point comback and winning a game with no help from the running game. Some of us that dont ballwash petermen know he isnt gonna do any better.

 

I mean - if he starts i hope we win.  Same as TT.  I prefer a W vs. a stranger on the internet eating crow... but thats just me 

[The Now Moment]

5 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

Dude are you really telling me the pats willmlpse to the chargers if they play them next week? Do you wanna bet who goes further in the afc playoffs? Dont make me bet on the pats to prove your campaigning. I hate the pats.

Guy, the Chargers are on a big winning streak and scoring over 30 in almost every contest and crushing teams.  The Pats haven't looked so great lately.  They just got beat by Miami yesterday and only scored 23 against us.  One team is playing their best and the other hasn't lately.  The Pats didn't score a ton on us last game.  It was a winnable game if we had any offense...that's all I'm saying haha.  Good day sir

[Lfod]

11 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

 

Dude are you really telling me the pats willmlpse to the chargers if they play them next week? Do you wanna bet who goes further in the afc playoffs? Dont make me bet on the pats to prove your campaigning. I hate the pats.

 

 

Make it 3 ints a game if over 25 attemps and 2 ints for anything under 24 attempts and your on donky kong.

 

 

I actually hope NP starts vs the Pats so posters like you can eat crow. We all know tyrod isnt leading a 30point comback and winning a game with no help from the running game. Some of us that dont ballwash petermen know he isnt gonna do any better.

We beat the Colts with a rookie 5th rounder and a 3rd string. In the same fashion we usually win games. Just barely with a solid defence. 

 

I get that Tyrod is the better chance to win but it's by a hair bro. Let me point you to the Panthers game that all we needed was an offence. Even the Patriots we're beatable with an offence.

 

We barely beat Kc and your talking playoffs and ball washing. Something in not right when you have to defend a 7 year pro against a first year 5th round rookie!!! This team has problems. It's not a playoff team.

Edited December 12, 2017 by Lfod

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

9 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

 

Dude are you really telling me the pats willmlpse to the chargers if they play them next week? Do you wanna bet who goes further in the afc playoffs? Dont make me bet on the pats to prove your campaigning. I hate the pats.

 

 

Make it 3 ints a game if over 25 attemps and 2 ints for anything under 24 attempts and your on donky kong.

 

 

I actually hope NP starts vs the Pats so posters like you can eat crow. We all know tyrod isnt leading a 30point comback and winning a game with no help from the running game. Some of us that dont ballwash petermen know he isnt gonna do any better.

The bet stands as is. 

 

5 INT's in a half because that is what people are implying.    

You want in PM me.

[FearLess Price]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Guy, the Chargers are on a big winning streak and scoring over 30 in almost every contest and crushing teams.  The Pats haven't looked so great lately.  They just got beat by Miami yesterday and only scored 23 against us.  One team is playing their best and the other hasn't lately.  The Pats didn't score a ton on us last game.  It was a winnable game if we had any offense...that's all I'm saying haha.  Good day sir

Lmao dude.

In no universe would the chargers beat the pats this season. Im willing to bet on it right now. Dont make excuses for the rook, he wasnt ready, it was abad coaching decision to put him out there vs our ex oc in hostile territory. Incredibly stupid.

 

3 minutes ago, Lfod said:

We beat the Colts with a rookie 5th rounder and a 3rd string. In the same fashion we usually win games. Just barely with a solid defence. 

 

I get that Tyrod is the better chance to win but it's by a hair bro. Let me point you to the Panthers game that all we needed was an offence. Even the Patriots we're beatable with an offence.

 

Exactly, he is better. Period. I understand fans wanting to see what the rook can develop into. I jus want to win and i think tyrod gives us a better chance to win over NP. Thats all it is.

 

 

 

At the end of the day we all want to win, regardless whos under center.

4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

The bet stands as is. 

 

5 INT's in a half because that is what people are implying.    

You want in PM me.

 

Your so confident in the rook then whats  the problem with 3 ints a game? Or maybe you think hes gonna throw those and have you ballwashing tygod the terrible :lol

[CircleTheWagons99]

30 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I'll take a bet that if Nate throws another 5 INT's in a half

I will  be the biggest TT asskisser  that there is for a week.  

 

You will have to be a pro Nate asskisser for the same duration. 

 

Any takers? 

I dont see anyone “kissing” NPs ass right now. I see alot of people “kissing” 3and out’s ass. 

[Bills Pimpin']

43 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

 

 

I actually hope NP starts vs the Pats so posters like you can eat crow. We all know tyrod isnt leading a 30point comback and winning a game with no help from the running game. Some of us that dont ballwash petermen know he isnt gonna do any better.

Who is ball washing Peterman? Saying Peterman is a better option than Taylor is not ball washing anyone. No one is putting Peterman in the HOF, just a notch or 2 above a bad QB who put up historically bad numbers against the Patriots 2 weeks ago, quit, put a towel over his head and got carted off the field like a little B word. He is done in Buffalo. Only a concussion is going to put him back on the field. 

Edited December 12, 2017 by Bills Pimpin'

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Bills Pimpin' said:

Who is ball washing Peterman? Saying Peterman is a better option than Taylor is not ball washing anyone. No one is putting Peterman in the HOF, just a notch or 2 above a bad QB who put up historically bad numbers against the Patriots 2 weeks ago, quit, put a towel over his head and got carted off the field like a little B word. He is done in Buffalo. Only a concussion is going to put him back on the field. 

 

Wrong again.

[Bills Pimpin']

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Wrong again.

I hope I am. I hope Peterman can play.

[Lfod]

3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Wrong again.

Wrong like saying they would never bench Tyrod Taylor for Nate Peterman? 

Edited December 12, 2017 by Lfod

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Bills Pimpin' said:

I hope I am. I hope Peterman can play.

 

If Tyrod is healthy and it appears he will be, he'll start.  Period.  

Just now, Lfod said:

Wrong like saying they would never bench Tyrod for Nate Peterman? 

 

Worked out great.  

 

[Lfod]

I won't argue that Tyrod gives you a better chance to win then a 5th round rookie that threw 5 interceptions and pulled his first game. Then gets KO his second start. That's not much to be better than. I just wouldn't get over confident in that argument. He should be light years beyond a 5th round rookie. That I expect but don't see. 

 

I've seen the offence get handed 3 turnovers in a game and not score a touchdown even when it was past the 50. We barely beat KC who lost to the Giants a weak before. We still beat the Colts without Tyrod with that 5 interception rookie and his back up and with Tyrod the score is the same just because nobody was kicking field goals. We couldn't beat Carolina and all we needed was a touchdown all game. I won't delve into the Jets and Saints games because Tyrod balling out wasn't gonna win those games.

 

Sure Tyrod starts and I want the better chance to win but I wouldn't bang the drum on how much better of a chance that is....

Edited December 12, 2017 by Lfod

[starrymessenger]

Don't know who the Bills will start. One things for sure though, if Peterman plays it is going to be a major hurdle. Miami can bring the heat and looks like they can cover too. If Miami's D is on its game it's likely going to be more like facing the Chargers than the Colts. Is Nate ready for this? Maybe we should pray for another blizzard.

If Tyrod is 100% good to go AND the Bills scheme and game plan with regard to what he can do (rather than to what he can't), I think that on balance Tyrod would probably give us our best shot and since the Bills are still in the playoff picture you would have to go with that. 

OTOH if Dennison is going to try turning Tyrod into a pocket passer, I'd rather roll the dice with NP.

[FearLess Price]

16 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said:

Who is ball washing Peterman? Saying Peterman is a better option than Taylor is not ball washing anyone. No one is putting Peterman in the HOF, just a notch or 2 above a bad QB who put up historically bad numbers against the Patriots 2 weeks ago, quit, put a towel over his head and got carted off the field like a little B word. He is done in Buffalo. Only a concussion is going to put him back on the field. 

 

There both not franchise saving QBs. I think Tyrod is better and the team plays better when hes in there. History shows this is the case. You disagree. Its coo homie. I call it ball washing cuz no evidence supports he plays better.

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, FearLess Price said:

 

There both not franchise saving QBs. I think Tyrod is better and the team plays better when hes in there. History shows this is the case. You disagree. Its coo homie. I call it ball washing cuz no evidence supports he plays better.

 

Tyrod's history against the Dolphins is actually very good: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00/gamelog/?opp_id=mia

[FearLess Price]

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Tyrod's history against the Dolphins is actually very good: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00/gamelog/?opp_id=mia

 

Ive been trying to point this out but some people just dont wanna hear it. He always balls out vs miami. This game is more on Dennison. Tyrod has proven he can play well vs the phins. Can Dennison call a game that gets us a W is the real question 

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, FearLess Price said:

 

Ive been trying to point this out but some people just dont wanna hear it. He always balls out vs miami. This game is more on Dennison. Tyrod has proven he can play well vs the phins. Can Dennison call a game that gets us a W is the real question 

 

The only game he really struggled in against the Dolphins was the away game last year.

So hopefully the pattern continues and it's another solid game against them this week.

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

 

Ive been trying to point this out but some people just dont wanna hear it. He always balls out vs miami. This game is more on Dennison. Tyrod has proven he can play well vs the phins. Can Dennison call a game that gets us a W is the real question 

 

The Lost Boys would rather believe in Peter Pan.  I said before he's like the hot stove that some Bills' fans just have to keep touching. 

Edited December 12, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz

[Wily Dog]

The topic is if both are ready to play. I say start TT and if he does like usually does , let NP take over at  Halftime.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, FearLess Price said:

1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Tyrod's history against the Dolphins is actually very good: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00/gamelog/?opp_id=mia

he's 0-2 in 16.  How in hell is that good? 

 

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

The only game he really struggled in against the Dolphins was the away game last year.

So hopefully the pattern continues and it's another solid game against them this week.

FWIW, the Bills have been able to handle Miami well before Typical Tyrod showed up. 

 

[Mrbojanglezs]

If they are going to go with tyrod the rest of the way it's time to just live with what he is. Run read option, designed runs etc.  Enough with this make him into a franchise QB with timing passing and west coast concepts. He will never be that ever. 

[Tenhigh]

15 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

All im saying is that it not far to bash someone after one start and defend a 7 year vet when he does nothing to win a game.   People need to keep in mind that the offense is programed for 3 and out and not a true pocket passer. wr are not ready for the ball to be on them while covered and the oline is always trying to block for a QB that holds the ball and scrambles. 

Said the guy who calls TT 3 and out.   Look, I am certain that 99% of this board wants to move on from Tyrod, and I believe 95% feel that JP isn't the answer either.  But if both are healthy, I think that Taylor provides the better chance of winning, especially if the D is playing well.  If the D is a sieve and Taylor can't move the sticks, bring in the kid and try to air it out. 

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

If they are going to go with tyrod the rest of the way it's time to just live with what he is. Run read option, designed runs etc.  Enough with this make him into a franchise QB with timing passing and west coast concepts. He will never be that ever. 

I totally agree.... design what he does well. maximize what you can and then move the hell on when the season is done. 

1 minute ago, Tenhigh said:

Said the guy who calls TT 3 and out.   Look, I am certain that 99% of this board wants to move on from Tyrod, and I believe 95% feel that JP isn't the answer either.  But if both are healthy, I think that Taylor provides the better chance of winning, especially if the D is playing well.  If the D is a sieve and Taylor can't move the sticks, bring in the kid and try to air it out. 

there you have it. 100%

[Tenhigh]

5 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

If they are going to go with tyrod the rest of the way it's time to just live with what he is. Run read option, designed runs etc.  Enough with this make him into a franchise QB with timing passing and west coast concepts. He will never be that ever. 

1000 times this. We are in the hunt for a playoff spot.  Not the time to force a square peg in a round hole.  Play to your strengths. 

[CircleTheWagons99]

1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

Said the guy who calls TT 3 and out.   Look, I am certain that 99% of this board wants to move on from Tyrod, and I believe 95% feel that JP isn't the answer either.  But if both are healthy, I think that Taylor provides the better chance of winning, especially if the D is playing well.  If the D is a sieve and Taylor can't move the sticks, bring in the kid and try to air it out. 

He earned his name this year, year 7 in the NFL......WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY past his first start.

[reddogblitz]

4 hours ago, Buffalo30 said:

Alex Smith is ten times better than Tyrod...the first half of the year he was in the MVP conversation lol.  That is just a horrid comparison to me.  I prefer to see what we have in the rookie than watch Tyrod's 3 and outs.  Kaepernick led San Fran a few years ago into the SB after his first few starts...not saying Peterman would do that but to say never...

 

And you honestly think the wide receivers are good with Tyrod at QB?  He doesn't throw to them often at all.  He's too scared to make a mistake to win us any kind of important game

I based the conversation around if both were healthy...obviously if one isn't healthy, the other will start.  

 

I agree that Alex Smith is better than Hotrod and hope we can get him on our team next year.

 

As far as the bolded goes, that's what pre season is for.  Right now we're trying to win games.  Coach McDermott thinks Hotrod give us the best chance.  He was right on the punt.  Maybe he's right here too?

[Tenhigh]

3 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

He earned his name this year, year 7 in the NFL......WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY past his first start.

SO you are going to give Peterman 7 years of crappy football before you admit he's not the answer either?

[CircleTheWagons99]

Just now, Tenhigh said:

SO you are going to give Peterman 7 years of crappy football before you admit he's not the answer either?

nope, just the rest of this year, so next year they know what to do with all the picks they have ........I was done with 3 and out half way last year, the Bills need a QB that can and wants to throw the ball.......and again, Peterman is a rookie and still has not played a FULL game, yes he threw 5 ints in his FIRST start against a very good Def. but  I dont think 60 or so passing yards a game is going to matter in the postseason, which i dont even think they make it with our without 3 and out, so start the rookie NOW and find out what he is.....

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

3 hours ago, Wily Dog said:

The topic is if both are ready to play. I say start TT and if he does like usually does , let NP take over at  Halftime.

I guess since the playoffs are within reach you start Taylor. I would say if we struggle to score points then Taylor is out at halftime and Peterman finishes out the season. I would start Peterman over TT if I had to make a choice.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

29 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I guess since the playoffs are within reach you start Taylor. I would say if we struggle to score points then Taylor is out at halftime and Peterman finishes out the season. I would start Peterman over TT if I had to make a choice.

apparently we hold the 6th seed.   sooo.....  

 

 

[reddogblitz]

2 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

nope, just the rest of this year, so next year they know what to do with all the picks they have ........I was done with 3 and out half way last year, the Bills need a QB that can and wants to throw the ball.......and again, Peterman is a rookie and still has not played a FULL game, yes he threw 5 ints in his FIRST start against a very good Def. but  I dont think 60 or so passing yards a game is going to matter in the postseason, which i dont even think they make it with our without 3 and out, so start the rookie NOW and find out what he is.....

 

EVEN IF NASTY Nate plays the last 3 games, we won't know if he's THE GUY or not.  He'll do more bad stiff and some good stuff. The reason he hasn't played a full game yet is because he makes bad decisions. Throwing ducks up for grabs like it's a Division II spring game and diving into tacklers head first.

 

Might as well try to win and end the drought while we have the chance. We may not next year.

[Bills Pimpin']

5 hours ago, FearLess Price said:

 

There both not franchise saving QBs. I think Tyrod is better and the team plays better when hes in there. History shows this is the case. You disagree. Its coo homie. I call it ball washing cuz no evidence supports he plays better.

Right on and I agree with that. If we ever do get a franchise QB I will be washing his balls daily and be damn proud to do it.....