ALF Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 This is a full rebuild I would not trade up with so many players needed. Castillo and Dennison using the players not suited for there systems. Defense, just good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 1:31 AM, yungmack said: If you do an honest analysis of this team, the absolute top needs are not at QB. Yes, they need a good one. But they have to massively upgrade the O line and maybe 80% of the overall D immediately this off season. It makes no sense to package a bunch of picks to move up for a top QB who will be wrecked behind the O line. Get the O line right in '18, use '19 to get the QB and get the D started in the right direction, use '20 to fill it out. In 4 or 5 years, they should be ready to make a run at post season play. Until you have a QB the top need is always QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 What a surprise though that we are seeing the "wait for next year" QB drafters..... time to get off the pot Buffalo. We must draft a Quarterback. If we don't I will be out on this regime. That is how critical it is to the future of this organisation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I hope it’s either Darnold or Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 19 hours ago, T master said: Well if the new staff wouldn't have sat our starting QB they could have done what it thought they were going to do . Which is play out the year with Taylor at the helm & keep him in 2018 to work out his contract while they draft another QB & see how Peterman came along after one year of watching TT . But now a totally different plan going forward !! Now Tyrod is probably thinking he's out even if they don't want him to leave . It's not Tyrod's option to leave if they don't want him to. But the Bills have to pay him $16M to keep him around, and I don't see McWrestler and Mr Beane having $16M of Luuuuuve for the Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Laffy Taffy knows better! Got this GEM today at work. WTF? Note, Kids write these Jokes..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 i hope we can sit and get mayfield with our first pick. i also want to see more of peterman after we get hosed these next 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Yungmack said it perfectly, everything else is fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 11/22/2017 at 6:48 AM, GunnerBill said: What a surprise though that we are seeing the "wait for next year" QB drafters..... time to get off the pot Buffalo. We must draft a Quarterback. If we don't I will be out on this regime. That is how critical it is to the future of this organisation. I’m already getting more critical of this regime. We absolutely need to draft a QB high. I just worry about this staff being able to develop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Team Needs a QB, OL, MLB and DT in first 2 rounds. (No particular order) And a standout Free Agent at OL, OLB and grab a solid Nickel CB to push Gaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 If there as many decent QB prospects as some seem to believe, then there shouldn't be a problem getting one of the better ones. You just have to choose (very) wisely. As regards the O-Line, what we really need, is a healthy Glenn to begin with, and then a RT who can actually pass protect. Pass protection has been awful for the last 3 years, both under Ryan, and (still) now. A good(ish) run blocking O-Line, is not a good overall O-Line. On offense this year, the regression seems to have happened, because, like Ryan did with the D, guys are being asked/told/expected, to play in ways they simply aren't up to. While Dennison probably deserves some of the flak for the alteration in schemes, especially with his preference (supposedly) for zone blocking, Castillo should also be getting his share, as he's the guy supposedly teaching the necessary techniques (and failing). While there's certainly some legitimacy in the argument about getting an O-Line in place before getting your QB, the reality is, that we've missed on prospects in the past, by not taking them soon enough, whether it be 'Big Ben', Cousins, or Russel Wilson. If the previous few games have shown us anything, it's that we currently don't have a QB who we can trust. We absolutely need to get one for the future, before anything else. Find a good one, then you have a few years before you have to pay him, and in that time, if necessary, you can spend money in FA to give him the protection he needs, while also drafting guys for the future on the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 A rookie had a bad day in his first start. -PLEASE don't read anything more into it than that.. I've been watching Peterman since he was at Tennessee, and wasn't the least bit surprised at what went down. -He's known for rough starts... I fully believe that if he hangs on, he will get better. -ALOT better. He has the potential to develop into one of the better backup/stop-gaps in the league. -That's no insult. If Peterman never set foot on that field last week, the Bills would still have major issues. We should start looking at those, instead of focusing on a kid who had a rough first day at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 5:35 PM, billspro said: This is probably the most worrisome thing for me following the three losses. I don't think there is anyway we can go back to Tyrod after benching him. I was hoping that he would be a stop gap until we found someone better. I was hoping for a lot more out of Peterman, I am not sure he is even a serviceable back up at this point. Looking ahead to the draft, Cleveland will certainly be taking a QB with the first overall pick. The Giants, Broncos, Colts, Cards, and Jets are all in the Qb market as well. What do the Bills do? Do they trade all our picks to move up to number 2 and take Darnold or Rosen? Should they stay put and take a chance on a guy like Allen or Mayfield in the second? Should they hope a guy like Lamar Jackson fall to them in round 1 (you better find a creative OC)? If they don't hit on this position this year we are going to be talking about the same thing five years from now. The worst thing would be to have Peterman play okay and they decide to go with him and not address the position. Keep both until accumulation of talent pushes them off the roster. Peterman dropped as far as he did for a reason. He may turn out to be a decent backup down the road. Tyrod has proven he can play at a high level under the right circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 21/11/2017 at 12:35 AM, billspro said: This is probably the most worrisome thing for me following the three losses. I don't think there is anyway we can go back to Tyrod after benching him. I was hoping that he would be a stop gap until we found someone better. I was hoping for a lot more out of Peterman, I am not sure he is even a serviceable back up at this point. Looking ahead to the draft, Cleveland will certainly be taking a QB with the first overall pick. The Giants, Broncos, Colts, Cards, and Jets are all in the Qb market as well. What do the Bills do? Do they trade all our picks to move up to number 2 and take Darnold or Rosen? Should they stay put and take a chance on a guy like Allen or Mayfield in the second? Should they hope a guy like Lamar Jackson fall to them in round 1 (you better find a creative OC)? If they don't hit on this position this year we are going to be talking about the same thing five years from now. The worst thing would be to have Peterman play okay and they decide to go with him and not address the position. Cardinals are going with Palmer again next year so wont need a QB, colts have Luck and the Broncos will pick after us. We will get to choose a QB high don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 IMO the bills need their franchise passer as the #1 priority. You can pick up linemen in free agency and draft some depth in later rounds but teams very rarely let good QB's go. In the end you need a good QB to get to footballs ultimate goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 9 hours ago, Bangarang said: I’m already getting more critical of this regime. We absolutely need to draft a QB high. I just worry about this staff being able to develop him. I’m too am starting to think Dennison may not be modern enough to design for QB’s strengths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 On November 22, 2017 at 7:25 PM, wppete said: I hope it’s either Darnold or Rosen. I think Darnold has a higher ceiling but you might have to live with lots of turnovers for awhile at least. Rosen throws a lovely ball and is perfect if you are planning to run a WCO. He needs to add 15-20 lbs tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: I think Darnold has a higher ceiling but you might have to live with lots of turnovers for awhile at least. Rosen throws a lovely ball and is perfect if you are planning to run a WCO. He needs to add 15-20 lbs tho. I’m trying not to set my sights too high because I think it’s going to be nearly impossible to get either of those guys...and even if, by some crazy chance, we were able to pull it off, I would probably die of a heart attack and never be able to see them play anyway...God once told me I’m not allowed to have nice things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 On November 21, 2017 at 7:33 PM, 1billsfan said: Really?? The Bills will be probably picking around the 10-14 position. Draft either Mayfield or Jackson… …and they would STILL have another 1st, two 2nds and one third round picks (the rest of the draft)…PLUS free agency. Seriously...if you can’t fix your trenches with all of that capital after their 1st rd QB pick, then you should quit and go into another business. Jackson or Mayfield, at QB, would make this porous Oline look like All-Pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I’m trying not to set my sights too high because I think it’s going to be nearly impossible to get either of those guys...and even if, by some crazy chance, we were able to pull it off, I would probably die of a heart attack and never be able to see them play anyway...God once told me I’m not allowed to have nice things... Yeah we're not getting either one. It helps to be really bad before you can be really good. Unfortunately we are always only mediocre, and therefore we tend to stay that way. Mediocrity is one of the levels of hell. Home sweet home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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