Should Al Franken resign

[Prickly Pete]

51 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

Swimmin in b*tches

 

"I think I remember that day. This blonde was really coming on strong, rubbing her chest against me when I tried to lean away. She was alright, but after the photo I politely stepped away, grabbed two of the brunettes by their _____ , and left. "

Edited November 24, 2017 by OJABBA

[row_33]

quote: Franken...well, I doubt he's had to reject many beautiful women's advances.

 

That's why the photo is so bad, she is 10,000,000 miles out of his league.

 

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, /dev/null said:

Swimmin in b*tches

And endorsing child molesters

 

Didn't Trump also tell a child he would be dating her in ten years. Ya, he's not a creep, but you guys love him

[Rob's House]

17 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Nobody but it didn't help Billy Bush.  I don't know how the relationship was between Franken and the first accuser and maybe he really thought the photo would be funny to both him and the first accuser.  I doubt it, but I don't know.  Both the photo and tape lend me to believe both are guilty of at least some of the charges against them.  I can't prove either, but I'm not going to give Trump a pass because the Clinton's and the media are corrupt scumbags. 

It's funny that you're willing to be as open minded as humanly possible with Franken but with Trump you've pretty much written him off as guilty with no supporting evidence.

 

If there was anything to these accusations against Trump, don't you think the media would be all over it? Are you really claiming that the news media that has tirelessly campaigned against this guy with every piece of **** scandal they could drum up for the last 2+ years is covering for him on the one scandal that actually could destroy him?

[row_33]

Doc is the only lib with a brain on here, but he has his limits on sanity, as we all doobeedoobeedoooooooooooooo..............

 

the Trump Derangement Syndrome is about 1/3 of what it was for Nixon and just a tad lower than for Reagan.

 

 

Reagan foretold and put the country into a deep and bad recession that many areas never recovered from, so there was something to grumble about

[Tiberius]

I sure hope Trump doesn't resign, he's great for the Dems. By 2020 Dems should have House, Senate and Liz Warren in the WH! Thanks Trump!

[Prickly Pete]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

And endorsing child molesters

 

Didn't Trump also tell a child he would be dating her in ten years. Ya, he's not a creep, but you guys love him

 

Go catch some sky, it's falling again.

[row_33]

if my friend or brother was as rabidly obsessed over totally nothing like Tibs is, I'd have him committed years ago.

 

don't respond to GG or his mult Tiberius, they just say garbage to get a reaction.

 

[B-Man]

Sen. Al Franken vows to regain Minnesota´s trust after harassment allegations Minneapolis Star Tribune, by Jennifer Brooks

Original Article

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, OJABBA said:

 

Go catch some sky, it's falling again.

It's not falling, the sun is coming out. As a liberal Democrat I want to say thank you for Trump, the gift that keeps giving! Endorsing a child molester! Har har!! 

[Doc Brown]

13 hours ago, OJABBA said:

 

Because Trump has gotten tons of tail, and Franken is ugly. 

 

Trump's clip sounds like a guy playfully (if tastelessly) exaggerating how easy it is for a famous, incredibly wealthy, good looking guy to pick up women. He has a long history of being with beautiful women, and his actions come across as an arrogant douchebag boasting (which he obviously is). Trump's personality doesn't strike me as the type that forces himself on women against their will, but rather as someone who would revel in dismissing a woman that had spurned his advance. He would probably just "grab" the women's best friend instead, as a petty revenge. 

 

Trump has needed to reject women and advances from them, for most of his life.

Like, there are too many for him to deal with.

Like, he's had to sift through the abundance of his surroundings, evading gold diggers, plotters, and opportunists as best he can, to decide which of the beautiful women availing themselves to him, are worth the time (and risk) to have sex with.

 

Franken on the other hand...his actions are familiar to anyone that knows not so attractive, sexually awkward males that might get creepy when they attain a position with a little power. According to the woman, she pointedly rejected Franken's advances and he persisted, then later took the "pretending to grope a sleeping woman" photo. Franken comes across as a weak, desperate nerd (which he probably is).

 

Franken...well, I doubt he's had to reject many beautiful women's advances.

 

And if you are honest with yourself, and stop the hand-wringing over Trump, and stop trying to dream up reasons and excuses why Trump shouldn't be president, you will admit that you understand the differences between the two men, the very different situations, and the sexual marketplace dynamics at play.

 

And no, I don't think Franken should resign.

 

8 hours ago, Rob's House said:

It's funny that you're willing to be as open minded as humanly possible with Franken but with Trump you've pretty much written him off as guilty with no supporting evidence.

 

If there was anything to these accusations against Trump, don't you think the media would be all over it? Are you really claiming that the news media that has tirelessly campaigned against this guy with every piece of **** scandal they could drum up for the last 2+ years is covering for him on the one scandal that actually could destroy him?

I never said Trump shouldn't be president and never gave any excuses for a horrible Democratic party who blew the election because of their arrogance and corruption.  The Russia narrative is complete bull crap, but I can't say the same for the sexual allegations against him.  I was open minded with both scandals which is why I looked at each individual accusation against Trump and Franken.  I find a few Trump accusers credible given the specificity of their allegations and I believe all of the Franken accusers who have come out so far.  I just wanted to know why you found Trump innocent of any wrongdoing and thanks for finally answering my question. 

 

Basically, your argument is that the sexual allegations against Trump before he ran for president can be written off because he was a rich real estate tycoon and reality tv star who had to fight off gold digging women his whole life (including his first wife saying he raped her in a rage of anger during the divorce).  The allegations during the campaign were all made up (despite eye witnesses backing them up their claims) because they were in cahoots with the Clinton campaign and the media along with being gold diggers.  You think they'd have more concrete evidence at this point if Trump was guilty.  The tape was basically Trump trying to impress Billy Bush which is plausible given Trump's personality.  I would also say it's plausible that Franken thought the picture was a tasteless joke given his history of him being an unfunny comedian.  I just don't buy either explanation.

[Prickly Pete]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

 

I never said Trump shouldn't be president and never gave any excuses for a horrible Democratic party who blew the election because of their arrogance and corruption.  The Russia narrative is complete bull crap, but I can't say the same for the sexual allegations against him.  I was open minded with both scandals which is why I looked at each individual accusation against Trump and Franken.  I find a few Trump accusers credible given the specificity of their allegations and I believe all of the Franken accusers who have come out so far.  I just wanted to know why you found Trump innocent of any wrongdoing and thanks for finally answering my question. 

 

Basically, your argument is that the sexual allegations against Trump before he ran for president can be written off because he was a rich real estate tycoon and reality tv star who had to fight off gold digging women his whole life (including his first wife saying he raped her in a rage of anger during the divorce).  The allegations during the campaign were all made up (despite eye witnesses backing them up their claims) because they were in cahoots with the Clinton campaign and the media along with being gold diggers.  You think they'd have more concrete evidence at this point if Trump was guilty.  The tape was basically Trump trying to impress Billy Bush which is plausible given Trump's personality.  I would also say it's plausible that Franken thought the picture was a tasteless joke given his history of him being an unfunny comedian.  I just don't buy either explanation.

 

I find rape claims from ex-wives extremely suspect.

 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2017 by OJABBA

[boyst]

Franken looks like the kid from stranger things grown up now as is.

[4merper4mer]

23 hours ago, Tiberius said:

I sure hope Trump doesn't resign, he's great for the Dems. By 2020 Dems should have House, Senate and Liz Warren in the WH! Thanks Trump!

 

Liz?   Are you some kind of massage artist?  Do you call a Trump Don?  Her name is Elizabeth you creep.

[Tiberius]

I call Trump scumbag. Boy, if Hillary can get Trump to melt down during the debates wait to Liz tears into his stupid arse! 

 

Looks like the Republicans will welcome a child molester into the Senate. Does THIS make Republicans bad for America? 

[3rdnlng]

44 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I call Trump scumbag. Boy, if Hillary can get Trump to melt down during the debates wait to Liz tears into his stupid arse! 

 

Looks like the Republicans will welcome a child molester into the Senate. Does THIS make Republicans bad for America? 

What, is she going to have her shaman curse him? Burn him at the stake? Maybe just her usual hatchet job, eh?

[Tiberius]

21 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

What, is she going to have her shaman curse him? Burn him at the stake? Maybe just her usual hatchet job, eh?

No, just use truth, reason and other things that really frustrate him. 

 

Hope your thanksgiving went well bro 

[/dev/null]

4 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

Franken looks like the kid from stranger things grown up now as is.

 

True but at least the kid from Stranger Things is entertaining

[Koko78]

1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

What, is she going to have her shaman curse him? Burn him at the stake? Maybe just her usual hatchet job, eh?

 

Maybe Lieawatha will utilize her Indian heritage and scalp him mid-debate.

[Senth]

Franken resign or not his political future is over.

[B-Man]

AP: AL FRANKEN “ASHAMED AMID GROPING CLAIMS…BUT LOOKS FORWARD TO RETURNING TO WORK ON MONDAY AND GRADUALLY REGAINING VOTERS’ TRUST.”

 

 

Except Al Franken doesn’t feel shame:

Recall what Franken said in his “Giant of the Senate” book (Yes really, thats what he called it) about apologizing about making rape jokes (if you can call them that) about Lesley Stahl. Franken admitted that he faked the apology in order to win election to the Senate. He wrote:

To say I was sorry for writing a joke was to sell out my career, to sell out who I’d been my entire life. And I wasn’t sorry that I had written Porn-o-Rama or pitched that stupid Lesley Stahl joke at 2 in the morning. I was just doing my job.

 

I learned that campaigns have their own rules, their own laws of physics, and that if I wasn’t willing to accept that, I would never get to be a senator.

How do you suppose Franken really feels about attending the Minnesota State Fair and posing for pictures with the masses, most of whom are not pretty young women? I assume he considers it tacky –“a sell out” of “who he’d been his entire life.”

 

 

Exit question: Why is No One Talking About the Fact that Al Franken is Married?

 

(Hint: party)

 

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[Wacka]

Franken's greatest accomplishment was on TV yesterday. Trading Please was on (where he played the stupid baggage handler).

[Tiberius]

On 11/25/2017 at 3:53 PM, Senth said:

Franken resign or not his political future is over.

But Roy Moore is way way worse. Child molester 

[Nanker]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

But Roy Moore is way way worse. Child molester 

What proof of that do you have?

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Nanker said:

What proof of that do you have?

Enough to know I wouldn't vote for him. Obviously you are ok with him though. Keep defending garbage like that 

[B-Man]

14 minutes ago, Nanker said:

What proof of that do you have?

 

 

Good God, you're a Masochist ......

He just IS.....okay.

 

Back to the thread.............

 

 

SERIOUSLY!? Al Franken’s answer to groping question is ‘beyond ridiculous’

 

 

Finally, a politician who can give a simple “yes” or “no” answer! Oh, wait, maybe not.

 

Have you groped women?
AF: "I can't say I haven't done that."
So you have?
"Can't say I haven't."
So you have.
"I didn't say that."

 

 

"It's hard to recall all the asses I've grabbed, now excuse me I need to get back to the Senate"

 

 

"I'm sorry if these women have experienced the thing that I did."

 

 

     

Edited November 27, 2017 by B-Man

[TakeYouToTasker]

Standard corporate damage control lingo:  never assign or accept blame.  Appogize for the situation others "find themselves in" or appologize for "the way they feel".

[row_33]

The People see the Democrat bull for all it is, they wont tell the pollsters and WHAM!!! on election day.

 

 

[B-Man]

Al Franken: I can’t say that my hand hasn’t been on any asses

 

He’s really going with the spin that three different women felt his hands on their butts purely accidentally, huh? Accuser Lindsay Menz said Franken’s hand “was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek.” The first anonymous accuser who spoke to HuffPost claimed “He grabbed my buttocks during a photo op.” The second anonymous accuser alleged that Franken “cupped my butt” and then, when she excused herself to go to the bathroom, he supposedly leaned in and asked if he could go with her.

 

 

 

Thanks democrats.....................welcome to Senator Moore

 

[row_33]

I didn't think they could drag their party worse than Slick Willy's Blue Dress fiasco, but this is helping it along

 

Al is a moron parading as someone with a 3-digit IQ, a total moron.

 

[Nanker]

5 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Enough to know I wouldn't vote for him. Obviously you are ok with him though. Keep defending garbage like that 

So tell us, oh descendant of German Nazi Confederate rapers of the North American continent, just how many slaves did they hold, and how many of the females were sexually assaulted and abused by them?

 

Tell us how you as a privileged white person have benefited from the toil of their labors that gave your Nazi white supremacist ancestors ease. 

 

If the South had won the Civil War and your family were still living there, would you sexually abuse the women and bullwhip the men when they got “uppity” like your direct forebears did?

 

Just curious. 

[3rdnlng]

14 minutes ago, Nanker said:

So tell us, oh descendant of German Nazi Confederate rapers of the North American continent, just how many slaves did they hold, and how many of the females were sexually assaulted and abused by them?

 

Tell us how you as a privileged white person have benefited from the toil of their labors that gave your Nazi white supremacist ancestors ease. 

 

If the South had won the Civil War and your family were still living there, would you sexually abuse the women and bullwhip the men when they got “uppity” like your direct forebears did?

 

Just curious. 

Now there you go again, comparing Gator with Nazis. Do you really think that the Nazis deserve that kind of insult?

[DC Tom]

6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Enough to know I wouldn't vote for him. Obviously you are ok with him though. Keep defending garbage like that 

 

"Bimbo eruptions."

[Deranged Rhino]

25 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

"Bimbo eruptions."

 

Interesting response to this line of questioning by Jennings. Of course, he was dead within a year of this interview... take that however you wish

 

(direct link to the clip - the site it was attached to is trash, just fyi)

 

http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/President-Clinton-to-Peter-Jennings-Dont-go-there-Peteer.mp4

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Interesting response to this line of questioning by Jennings. Of course, he was dead within a year of this interview... take that however you wish

 

(direct link to the clip - the site it was attached to is trash, just fyi)

 

http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/President-Clinton-to-Peter-Jennings-Dont-go-there-Peteer.mp4

 

I'd point out that Jennings was a heavy smoker who died of lung cancer, but I'm pretty sure that exchange would go something along the lines of Sydney Poitier's and Dan Akroyd's in Sneakers:

"Are you saying the CIA caused the Managua earthquake?"

"Well, I can't prove it, but..."

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

I'd point out that Jennings was a heavy smoker who died of lung cancer, but I'm pretty sure that exchange would go something along the lines of Sydney Poitier's and Dan Akroyd's in Sneakers:

"Are you saying the CIA caused the Managua earthquake?"

"Well, I can't prove it, but..."

 

Love that scene. 

 

And I don't at all believe Jenning's death was related to this interview. Was just tweaking some noses.

[DC Tom]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Love that scene. 

 

And I don't at all believe Jenning's death was related to this interview. Was just tweaking some noses.

 

The whole movie's great.  Very underrated.  And Akroyd's a gem in that movie...probably because he personally believes every conspiracy his character spouts.

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

The whole movie's great.  Very underrated.  And Akroyd's a gem in that movie...probably because he personally believes every conspiracy his character spouts.

 

One day I'll tell about the night I had a drink with him... you ain't lying. 

 

(don't mean to hijack - just posting this for those Akroyd fans who are curious)

 

[KD in CA]

13 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

The whole movie's great.  Very underrated.  And Akroyd's a gem in that movie...probably because he personally believes every conspiracy his character spouts.

 

Cosmo was preaching the truth with that ‘who controls the information’ speech at the end.

 

Terrific cast all around.

 

 

[B-Man]

BUT OF COURSE: Dem Senator Hirono Runs Interference for Franken and Conyers.