jr1 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 this loss was on Beane's roster gutting. Every game won't be a miracle like Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) 1) First home game after terrorist attack. You can't compete with the energy the home team gets off that. As I said in another thread, refer to the 2006 home opener for New Orleans, their first game back in the super dome after Katrina.Little bit different though. A terrorist attack is an isolated incident that effected a relatively small number of people. Katrina destroyed people's homes and lives and basically ruined the city for millions of people Edited November 3, 2017 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 You have to give the Jets credit. They were ready to play and really attacked. It seemed like they were in the backfield on almost every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) 1 - Run Defense Our tackling was terrible and the Jets ran all over us. I really miss the high-energy version of Marcel Dareus from yesteryear, because he would have really helped last night. 2 - Offensive Game Plan It was frustrating to watch our RB's run into stacked boxes all night. I was looking forward the half time adjustments, because I thought we had adjusted well in earlier games. Instead, we started the third quarter with two unsuccessful runs into the gut of the Jet defense. The Jets were determined to stop the run and consistently pushed the OT's back to eliminate Tyrod's escape routes. We needed to take what the defense gave us last night, which was the quick hit passing game. This is not an area where we've been successful before, so I can't be sure that it would have worked either, but with so few defenders left in coverage, there must have been shots to be taken. 3 - Offensive Line Play These guys were pushed around all night long. Couldn't run block... couldn't pass protect. Tyrod had almost no time to throw. Ducasse and Mills were manhandled and I would gladly sign a petition to elevate Groy and Dawkins to the starting line. 4 - Team Discipline What was a refreshing change this season after the Wrex years was the drastic reduction in penalties. Too many penalties punctuated by the Hughes 15 yd personal foul on a play that the reply would have likely resulted in a forth down and punt by the Jets. 5 - Ball Control The fumble by Matthews was caused in his effort of reaching for a first down. I can understand the motivation to reach for the first, but the fumble was costly. The fumble by O'Leary was simply a lack of awareness following a fantastic catch. He simply can't ruin such a great play in that way. I honestly don't remember the third fumble, but I think it was Tyrod. I'm an admitted Kool Aid drinker and don't like to focus on the negative so much, so for my own sanity, here are the things that I liked last night... 1 - Zay Jones Zay had his second straight game showing the great hands we heard so much about in college. He ran a really nice rout on the TD catch. I hope his injury isn't as bad is it looked when I saw it. 2 - Tyrod Taylor I know that I will get beat up for this view, because the team can't lose when a QB plays well. Tyrod played well under immense pressure, completing almost 75% of his passes and no INT's and a few nice deep throws. With the O-Line play, he needed a Brady-like 1.7 sec throwing time and no one is mistaking Tyrod for Brady. I agree with other posters that Tyrod needs to be given the authority to audible out of the called play, when the defense alignment calls for it. 2-3 of his sacks could have been avoided by throwing the ball away, so this is a weak positive point. 3 - .... Sorry, that's all I've got and, admittedly, Tyrod wasn't a superstar. He just didn't play terrible, considering the duress he was under, which is all it took to look good last night. We are better as the underdogs, so maybe this will keep our team's heads on securely in preparation for the Saints game. Edited November 3, 2017 by Forward Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 - Run Defense Our tackling was terrible and the Jets ran all over us. I really miss the high-energy version of Marcel Dareus from yesteryear, because he would have really helped last night. 2 - Offensive Game Plan It was frustrating to watch our RB's run into stacked boxes all night. I was looking forward the half time adjustments, because I thought we had adjusted well in earlier games. Instead, we started the third quarter with two unsuccessful runs into the gut of the Jet defense. The Jets were determined to stop the run and consistently pushed the OT's back to eliminate Tyrod's escape routes. We needed to take what the defense gave us last night, which was the quick hit passing game. This is not an area where we've been successful before, so I can't be sure that it would have worked either, but with so few defenders left in coverage, there must have been shots to be taken. 3 - Offensive Line Play These guys were pushed around all night long. Couldn't run block... couldn't pass protect. Tyrod had almost no time to throw. Ducasse and Mills were manhandled and I would gladly sign a petition to elevate Groy and Dawkins to the starting line. 4 - Team Discipline What was a refreshing change this season after the Wrex years was the drastic reduction in penalties. Too many penalties punctuated by the Hughes 15 yd personal foul on a play that the reply would have likely resulted in a forth down and punt by the Jets. 5 - Ball Control The fumble by Matthews was caused in his effort of reaching for a first down. I can understand the motivation to reach for the first, but the fumble was costly. The fumble by O'Leary was simply a lack of awareness following a fantastic catch. He simply can't ruin such a great play in that way. I honestly don't remember the third fumble, but I think it was Tyrod. I'm an admitted Kool Aid drinker and don't like to focus on the negative so much, so for my own sanity, here are the things that I liked last night... 1 - Zay Jones Zay had his second straight game showing the great hands we heard so much about in college. He ran a really nice rout on the TD catch. I hope his injury isn't as bad is it looked when I saw it. 2 - Tyrod Taylor I know that I will get beat up for this view, because the team can't lose when a QB plays well. Tyrod played well under immense pressure, completing almost 75% of his passes and no INT's and a few nice deep throws. With the O-Line play, he needed a Brady-like 1.7 sec throwing time and no one is mistaking Tyrod for Brady. I agree with other posters that Tyrod needs to be given the authority to audible out of the called play, when the defense alignment calls for it. 3 - .... Sorry, that's all I've got and, admittedly, Tyrod wasn't a superstar. He just didn't play terrible, which is all it took to look good last night. We are better as the underdogs, so maybe this will keep our team's heads on securely in preparation for the Saints game. Good and we'll thought out post. Pretty much agree with everything you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1. Trench Battles - Both the OLine and DLine were beat up and had their lunch money taken away 2. Turnovers 3. Poor coaching adjustments - both offense and defense 4. Poor tackling on defense 5. Tyrod Taylor's fatal flaws (needs too much time to find receivers, won't take chances/throw the receiver open, refuses to throw the ball away) 6. Shady's injury / no quality backup (Tubby Tolbert stinks) That's pretty much spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 OL DL Penalties Turnovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 an exhausted team coming off a big home win ran into a motivated division rival fighting for their life on their own turf. they'll recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Bills!!! Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Wow,this isn't in order, but the game was lost due to the Bills playing the opposite of how they've been playing. Too many costly penalties! Terrible QG protection and RB blocking! The worst tackling this year! Terrible field position! Why the heck was Hyde catching punts? Did he fair catch them all? Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Little bit different though. A terrorist attack is an isolated incident that effected a relatively small number of people. Katrina destroyed people's homes and lives and basically ruined the city for millions of people As to the number of people directly affected you are of course correct. As to the mindset of the community, the effects were similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 As to the number of people directly affected you are of course correct. As to the mindset of the community, the effects were similar. Possibly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1. Offensive line 2. Defensive line Other than a pick early on QB I'd consider spending every one of our picks on the lines. Neither are good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 1. Offensive line 2. Defensive line Other than a pick early on QB I'd consider spending every one of our picks on the lines. Neither are good enough. I agree. Draft for sure needs to prioritize the lines and linebackers I think as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1. Trench Battles - Both the OLine and DLine were beat up and had their lunch money taken away 2. Turnovers 3. Poor coaching adjustments - both offense and defense 4. Poor tackling on defense 5. Tyrod Taylor's fatal flaws (needs too much time to find receivers, won't take chances/throw the receiver open, refuses to throw the ball away) 6. Shady's injury / no quality backup (Tubby Tolbert stinks) Perfect analysis. Can I just copy n paste... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonley1180 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1. Offensive line 2. Defensive line Other than a pick early on QB I'd consider spending every one of our picks on the lines. Neither are good enough. this. I know its a cliche but games are won and lost here. And we were dominated on both sides of the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 **** LB play **** OL play **** RB play **** for tackling ****ty offensive playcalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1a) Offensive line failure in both run and pass situations. 1b) Inability to stop Jets running game. 3) Complete lack of pressure on McCown. 4) Stupid turnovers. 5) Stupid penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Offensive line. Defensive line. Players not ready to play big game on national TV/McD not getting them ready. Dennison. Tackling. Penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1. Fumbles - on the upside, cost us 17 points. Should have got FG before 1/2. O'Leary fumble on Jets 30. Could have got points there. Hotrod's fumble gave Jets ball inside 10 where they got a TD. 2. Defense - sloppy arm taclking. Dropping a for sure pick on Jets 30. Can't stop the run. No pass rush. Guys forgetting the process and dogging it. 3. Offensive line stunk up the joint in run and pass blocking. 4. No viable backup for McCoy. How can you get a running team with only 1 good RB? 5. Shoulda played Kelvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Another major reason we lost is the defense made so few early stops. So even when they forced a punt it was around midfield and the Bills were starting inside the ten yard line, which severely limits the playcalling and ability to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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